Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 06, 2003, 08:06:33 am
like i ve seen in other threads we were all complaining about same stuff....lod and textures.
some models need high res textures bad.ever played the mirak ncc? its low res and you see white flickering and texture warping.and most fed ships based on fsb have low lod and resolution...even on my gf4200ti with max fsaa and anisothropic filter maximised it looks.....worse than sfc1.
my sfc2 early ca
op 3+ model
sfc1 ca
you can see the sfc:op ship looks worse compared to sfc1....no lighting effects at all....so better go back to the drawing board mr.3+ graphix designer lol
vac
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i hope to get a pleasent texture update soon,but he really should keep in mind that not all have broadband.....
Post by: FireSoul on August 06, 2003, 09:03:44 pm
My FCA: good. It's the early model for pre-plus refit CAs.
Low Poly count. Bleh. I can always install the low-res FCA pack from Lord Schtupp's. It's got to be med or low res to work properly on lower-end machines which are still being actively used for SFC.
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 06, 2003, 10:41:05 pm
Post by: AdmiralFrey_XC on August 07, 2003, 10:05:36 am
WAAAAAAmbulance!
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 07, 2003, 11:43:58 am
Post by: Wolf2525 on August 07, 2003, 07:40:12 pm
I guess I can see why you'd be disappointed with the models he chose, but he did mention that he did not spend much time selecting them, and that some may not be the cutting edge of what is out there. But he still took the time to do all this, and he included a smaller, non-model version. He also took the time to tell everyone how to put in thier own models if they were not pleased with those he included.
I, for one, am grateful he took the time to do all this in the first place.
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 08:08:49 pm
.. actually.. a lot of time.
Post by: EmeraldEdge on August 07, 2003, 08:29:44 pm
As it is I'm glad to have something like this out and about and if it's used for D2 play it will certainly be welcomed by many who have been waiting for the opportunity to stick their favorite models into the game.Simple fact, it makes more folders available to the stock game and you can switch out any you don't like (switch out any of mine, and we'll talk.
) 
!
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 07, 2003, 10:00:37 pm
This is an older retexture job for the Khamby Class. I use it as a light carrier/torpedo fire support cruiser for House Korgath.
My current version uses the red/black textures by Pataflafla and use additional textures by Cleeve from his K' teremeny.
I was thinking this could make a tug too.
KF
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 10:05:58 pm
...
Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 07, 2003, 10:34:14 pm
Quote:
Hey. That looks Familiar......
...Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
That's just what I was thinking. With normal D7 Engines of course.
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 10:43:42 pm
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 07, 2003, 11:15:39 pm
Quote:Quote:
Hey. That looks Familiar......
...Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
That's just what I was thinking. With normal D7 Engines of course.
So, that must be were the physical model idea came from then, from SFB! Cool!
Qapla!
KF
Post by: FireSoul on August 08, 2003, 06:43:48 am
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 08, 2003, 04:43:37 pm
thx,
vac
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on August 08, 2003, 05:24:51 pm
Quote:
hey dont take it too serious but....u argue that many use old pc s and thats why your textures suck.then please keep in mind that not all have broadband and a 35mb download takes 1.5-2 hours.during that time u cant do [censored] on your pc nd then u install and see....blurry low res molels.please dont update em,just release a final mid/high res version and show a heart for dial uppers.
thx,
vac
Next time..use the no models option..and load your own....like I did...
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 09, 2003, 06:02:54 pm
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 06, 2003, 08:06:33 am
like i ve seen in other threads we were all complaining about same stuff....lod and textures.
some models need high res textures bad.ever played the mirak ncc? its low res and you see white flickering and texture warping.and most fed ships based on fsb have low lod and resolution...even on my gf4200ti with max fsaa and anisothropic filter maximised it looks.....worse than sfc1.
my sfc2 early ca
op 3+ model
sfc1 ca
you can see the sfc:op ship looks worse compared to sfc1....no lighting effects at all....so better go back to the drawing board mr.3+ graphix designer lol
vac
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i hope to get a pleasent texture update soon,but he really should keep in mind that not all have broadband.....
Post by: FireSoul on August 06, 2003, 09:03:44 pm
My FCA: good. It's the early model for pre-plus refit CAs.
Low Poly count. Bleh. I can always install the low-res FCA pack from Lord Schtupp's. It's got to be med or low res to work properly on lower-end machines which are still being actively used for SFC.
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 06, 2003, 10:41:05 pm
Post by: AdmiralFrey_XC on August 07, 2003, 10:05:36 am
WAAAAAAmbulance!
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 07, 2003, 11:43:58 am
Post by: Wolf2525 on August 07, 2003, 07:40:12 pm
I guess I can see why you'd be disappointed with the models he chose, but he did mention that he did not spend much time selecting them, and that some may not be the cutting edge of what is out there. But he still took the time to do all this, and he included a smaller, non-model version. He also took the time to tell everyone how to put in thier own models if they were not pleased with those he included.
I, for one, am grateful he took the time to do all this in the first place.
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 08:08:49 pm
.. actually.. a lot of time.
Post by: EmeraldEdge on August 07, 2003, 08:29:44 pm
As it is I'm glad to have something like this out and about and if it's used for D2 play it will certainly be welcomed by many who have been waiting for the opportunity to stick their favorite models into the game.Simple fact, it makes more folders available to the stock game and you can switch out any you don't like (switch out any of mine, and we'll talk.
) !
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 07, 2003, 10:00:37 pm
This is an older retexture job for the Khamby Class. I use it as a light carrier/torpedo fire support cruiser for House Korgath.
My current version uses the red/black textures by Pataflafla and use additional textures by Cleeve from his K' teremeny.
I was thinking this could make a tug too.
KF
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 10:05:58 pm
...
Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 07, 2003, 10:34:14 pm
Quote:
Hey. That looks Familiar......
...Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
That's just what I was thinking. With normal D7 Engines of course.
Post by: FireSoul on August 07, 2003, 10:43:42 pm
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 07, 2003, 11:15:39 pm
Quote:Quote:
Hey. That looks Familiar......
...Quote:
The DV7 design was ultimately rejected for several reasons. The boom proved structurally unsound, as the bay section (perforated by the launch tubes) was hung from the frame rather than being part of it as would have been the case with a Hydran ship.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/sft42.htm#dv7
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/images/R3_j6_dv7.gif
That's just what I was thinking. With normal D7 Engines of course.
So, that must be were the physical model idea came from then, from SFB! Cool!
Qapla!
KF
Post by: FireSoul on August 08, 2003, 06:43:48 am
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 08, 2003, 04:43:37 pm
thx,
vac
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on August 08, 2003, 05:24:51 pm
Quote:
hey dont take it too serious but....u argue that many use old pc s and thats why your textures suck.then please keep in mind that not all have broadband and a 35mb download takes 1.5-2 hours.during that time u cant do [censored] on your pc nd then u install and see....blurry low res molels.please dont update em,just release a final mid/high res version and show a heart for dial uppers.
thx,
vac
Next time..use the no models option..and load your own....like I did...
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 09, 2003, 06:02:54 pm