Dynaverse.net

Taldrenites => General Starfleet Command Forum => Topic started by: Mantis on August 08, 2003, 01:36:54 pm

Title: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Mantis on August 08, 2003, 01:36:54 pm
I am new to OP and have only played a few single player skirmishes. I am still getting use to the interface and understanding what the interface is telling me about my current energy management situation. What race(s) do you suggest for me to concentrate on in order to become at least more than road kill in PvP?  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Rod O'neal on August 08, 2003, 01:59:50 pm
I think that the Feds are the easiest to learn while you're first starting out. There's always that chance of getting all 4 OL-photons to hit. That'll make folks have to respect you a bit anyways while your skills improve.  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Toasty0 on August 08, 2003, 03:45:59 pm
I agree. Fed is the most basic and easiest race to master for the beginner.

It pains this old Klingon to do so, but I recommend you start out with Fed.

 

   
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 08, 2003, 04:38:41 pm
most newbies fly fed lol and this has given em a reputation of bein easy.....but thats not true since photons are a direct fire weapon and adict to shifts like no other main haeavy weapon (ecm/eecm).
the race to kill ai quick is.....miraktrac and scat,but to be a decent and feared mirak pilot in pvp takes much more effort and skill than fed.....  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 09, 2003, 01:24:56 am
Fed, But I recomnend runing a few missions or single Combats with your photons turned OFF! Yes off!, as in not on, not charging, not sucking presciose energy from your EW and speed) and learn to kill AI with just your Phasers,(yes it is very posible, Even with the Fed CA, But for now I recomend a CAI or CAR or if you must, a Fed CC.  Try to focus on tearing down as few sheilds as posible, and Never EVER use that !@#$% button that lets you track him, it will only get your 1 sheild shreaded faster(yes their are times when it is ok to use that setting, but its a bad habit you realy need to break) also learn how to set your Transporter bombs (T-bombs are your freinds and you will win more if you use them, but they also go off on your alies and that is a bad thing!)and how to use the overhead view setting.

Also learn how to MIZA by poping single shots down a shield at one second intervals (basicaly learn how to fly at Game speed 7 or 8) as you can ocationaly strip wepons faster that way, and killing wepons and not hullboxes is the name of  this game. and also learn what to send your red shirts after Especialy on the Romulan border, the faster you pop it, the happier you will be!

Oh and stay away form any ship in the Fed fleet that is labled DD, that thing cant fly and chew gum! theDDG andDDL "Upgrades" dont realy help, even the DDG+ refit dosent save it. about the only thing its good for is hanging back outside of efective HW range on starbases and Base station and Proxing the same sheild over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

again untill you finaly grind it to nothing and you start geting internals that finaly take out enough of the P-4s to let you get closer so you can fire more Prox torps over

and over

and over

and over again

 

God I hate Starbase and base station asaults!.




 
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 09, 2003, 01:44:16 am
Quote:

most newbies fly fed lol and this has given em a reputation of bein easy.....but thats not true since photons are a direct fire weapon and adict to shifts like no other main haeavy weapon (ecm/eecm).
the race to kill ai quick is.....miraktrac and scat,but to be a decent and feared mirak pilot in pvp takes much more effort and skill than fed.....  



Feds are easy only if your flying against AI becuase the AI dosentseem to know how to MIZA you, and often dosent seem like its trying to focus on geting to your down sheild. Romulans do better with the R-K series ships or Third gen Romulan, and often never see the ISC. Ironicaly if they had to face the (Cough) (Kizint)i(cough) Mirak (sorry hairball) or Lyran it would be another mater, And franly, I dont think their are many Feds out their who could handlle seeing a Angry Hyrdan and all of thoes Gatling phasers Figher fusions and hellbores(and no, I dont think the OPs that mount HBs and Fuison beams are very representitve of just how good a full time Profesional Hydran Buzzsaw  can be)

Part of the problem is that Klingons have sheild burners(disruptors) and not sheild crackers like the Photons, and by the time the Good drones start showing up Feds often have AMDs all over the place, and can often stop using phasers to burn down Drones(although by then the klingons are often seeing more P-1s on their ships)  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Cleaven on August 09, 2003, 07:18:05 am
For pities sake the word is M-I-Z-I-A, mizia. It's just pathetic that nobody in the SFC3 forum can spell it, and it's not good enough that people can't appreciate that that this is a real gaming word now, named after Walter Mizia, if I have my SFB history correct. Specifically it relates to the use of the DAC table to destroy weapons instead of power.

So it's M-I-Z-I-A. Now don't make me get up and come over there again.

 
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 09, 2003, 01:56:35 pm
Quote:

For pities sake the word is M-I-Z-I-A, mizia. It's just pathetic that nobody in the SFC3 forum can spell it, and it's not good enough that people can't appreciate that that this is a real gaming word now, named after Walter Mizia, if I have my SFB history correct. Specifically it relates to the use of the DAC table to destroy weapons instead of power.

So it's M-I-Z-I-A. Now don't make me get up and come over there again.

   




Yeah, What he said!!!

Now I know your name is Cleaven but I saw it somwhere as Clearen So thats just the way I'm going to call you.  Sorry if thats not your name but I'm just too lazy to learn to spell it right.  Thenk you Clearen for clarifying the above.
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: feargusf on August 09, 2003, 02:41:42 pm
Y'know, I've been wondering about this for a while now, Cleaven, seeing that First Federation avatar that you have. Do you actually look like a little boy with bad teeth?  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: 3dot14 on August 09, 2003, 04:36:16 pm
Is there still mizia in SFC3?
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: James Formo on August 09, 2003, 04:39:39 pm
Hey VelvetAcidChrist, Where can I get that Mirak ship in your signature?
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 09, 2003, 05:54:11 pm
its the mirak x-ca ship in op
are there any mirak lovers out there.....besides me lol.
   
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Cleaven on August 09, 2003, 06:33:27 pm
Quote:

Is there still mizia in SFC3?  



No. They have a different word. They usually spell it with an M, a Z, and often an I, but the rest is pretty random.

As for a DAC that allows a power Vs weapons attack style, it may be possible with Hull targeted (as opposed to warp or a weapon mount). Does anybody know if there is such a DAC? I think this has already been explained by the designers but I have forgotten.  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 10, 2003, 10:10:41 am
I used to love runing single Battle cruisers and small groups of (Cough)Kizinti)(cough) Miriak ships, mostly becuase I would go insain with the Drone loadout options (ohh going agaist lyrans, I need armored and Phaser to mess with his ESGs,  and some Dogfights for loading Psycout Scatterpacks with Dogfights, hhmmm were going up against a Lyran Carrier, so i may want to also load a shatterpack or do I just want to load a few MW instead, Ohh and cant forget the ECM drones, should I put that one on a IV with a Explosive warhead, or with a probe or with a . . .) you get the idea.

Actualy the game realy needs type III drones.

 
Title: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Mantis on August 08, 2003, 01:36:54 pm
I am new to OP and have only played a few single player skirmishes. I am still getting use to the interface and understanding what the interface is telling me about my current energy management situation. What race(s) do you suggest for me to concentrate on in order to become at least more than road kill in PvP?  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Rod O'neal on August 08, 2003, 01:59:50 pm
I think that the Feds are the easiest to learn while you're first starting out. There's always that chance of getting all 4 OL-photons to hit. That'll make folks have to respect you a bit anyways while your skills improve.  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Toasty0 on August 08, 2003, 03:45:59 pm
I agree. Fed is the most basic and easiest race to master for the beginner.

It pains this old Klingon to do so, but I recommend you start out with Fed.

 

   
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 08, 2003, 04:38:41 pm
most newbies fly fed lol and this has given em a reputation of bein easy.....but thats not true since photons are a direct fire weapon and adict to shifts like no other main haeavy weapon (ecm/eecm).
the race to kill ai quick is.....miraktrac and scat,but to be a decent and feared mirak pilot in pvp takes much more effort and skill than fed.....  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 09, 2003, 01:24:56 am
Fed, But I recomnend runing a few missions or single Combats with your photons turned OFF! Yes off!, as in not on, not charging, not sucking presciose energy from your EW and speed) and learn to kill AI with just your Phasers,(yes it is very posible, Even with the Fed CA, But for now I recomend a CAI or CAR or if you must, a Fed CC.  Try to focus on tearing down as few sheilds as posible, and Never EVER use that !@#$% button that lets you track him, it will only get your 1 sheild shreaded faster(yes their are times when it is ok to use that setting, but its a bad habit you realy need to break) also learn how to set your Transporter bombs (T-bombs are your freinds and you will win more if you use them, but they also go off on your alies and that is a bad thing!)and how to use the overhead view setting.

Also learn how to MIZA by poping single shots down a shield at one second intervals (basicaly learn how to fly at Game speed 7 or 8) as you can ocationaly strip wepons faster that way, and killing wepons and not hullboxes is the name of  this game. and also learn what to send your red shirts after Especialy on the Romulan border, the faster you pop it, the happier you will be!

Oh and stay away form any ship in the Fed fleet that is labled DD, that thing cant fly and chew gum! theDDG andDDL "Upgrades" dont realy help, even the DDG+ refit dosent save it. about the only thing its good for is hanging back outside of efective HW range on starbases and Base station and Proxing the same sheild over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

and over

again untill you finaly grind it to nothing and you start geting internals that finaly take out enough of the P-4s to let you get closer so you can fire more Prox torps over

and over

and over

and over again

 

God I hate Starbase and base station asaults!.




 
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 09, 2003, 01:44:16 am
Quote:

most newbies fly fed lol and this has given em a reputation of bein easy.....but thats not true since photons are a direct fire weapon and adict to shifts like no other main haeavy weapon (ecm/eecm).
the race to kill ai quick is.....miraktrac and scat,but to be a decent and feared mirak pilot in pvp takes much more effort and skill than fed.....  



Feds are easy only if your flying against AI becuase the AI dosentseem to know how to MIZA you, and often dosent seem like its trying to focus on geting to your down sheild. Romulans do better with the R-K series ships or Third gen Romulan, and often never see the ISC. Ironicaly if they had to face the (Cough) (Kizint)i(cough) Mirak (sorry hairball) or Lyran it would be another mater, And franly, I dont think their are many Feds out their who could handlle seeing a Angry Hyrdan and all of thoes Gatling phasers Figher fusions and hellbores(and no, I dont think the OPs that mount HBs and Fuison beams are very representitve of just how good a full time Profesional Hydran Buzzsaw  can be)

Part of the problem is that Klingons have sheild burners(disruptors) and not sheild crackers like the Photons, and by the time the Good drones start showing up Feds often have AMDs all over the place, and can often stop using phasers to burn down Drones(although by then the klingons are often seeing more P-1s on their ships)  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Cleaven on August 09, 2003, 07:18:05 am
For pities sake the word is M-I-Z-I-A, mizia. It's just pathetic that nobody in the SFC3 forum can spell it, and it's not good enough that people can't appreciate that that this is a real gaming word now, named after Walter Mizia, if I have my SFB history correct. Specifically it relates to the use of the DAC table to destroy weapons instead of power.

So it's M-I-Z-I-A. Now don't make me get up and come over there again.

 
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: jimmi7769 on August 09, 2003, 01:56:35 pm
Quote:

For pities sake the word is M-I-Z-I-A, mizia. It's just pathetic that nobody in the SFC3 forum can spell it, and it's not good enough that people can't appreciate that that this is a real gaming word now, named after Walter Mizia, if I have my SFB history correct. Specifically it relates to the use of the DAC table to destroy weapons instead of power.

So it's M-I-Z-I-A. Now don't make me get up and come over there again.

   




Yeah, What he said!!!

Now I know your name is Cleaven but I saw it somwhere as Clearen So thats just the way I'm going to call you.  Sorry if thats not your name but I'm just too lazy to learn to spell it right.  Thenk you Clearen for clarifying the above.
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: feargusf on August 09, 2003, 02:41:42 pm
Y'know, I've been wondering about this for a while now, Cleaven, seeing that First Federation avatar that you have. Do you actually look like a little boy with bad teeth?  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: 3dot14 on August 09, 2003, 04:36:16 pm
Is there still mizia in SFC3?
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: James Formo on August 09, 2003, 04:39:39 pm
Hey VelvetAcidChrist, Where can I get that Mirak ship in your signature?
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: VelvetAcidChrist on August 09, 2003, 05:54:11 pm
its the mirak x-ca ship in op
are there any mirak lovers out there.....besides me lol.
   
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Cleaven on August 09, 2003, 06:33:27 pm
Quote:

Is there still mizia in SFC3?  



No. They have a different word. They usually spell it with an M, a Z, and often an I, but the rest is pretty random.

As for a DAC that allows a power Vs weapons attack style, it may be possible with Hull targeted (as opposed to warp or a weapon mount). Does anybody know if there is such a DAC? I think this has already been explained by the designers but I have forgotten.  
Title: Re: New to OP, which race to start with
Post by: Drakenred on August 10, 2003, 10:10:41 am
I used to love runing single Battle cruisers and small groups of (Cough)Kizinti)(cough) Miriak ships, mostly becuase I would go insain with the Drone loadout options (ohh going agaist lyrans, I need armored and Phaser to mess with his ESGs,  and some Dogfights for loading Psycout Scatterpacks with Dogfights, hhmmm were going up against a Lyran Carrier, so i may want to also load a shatterpack or do I just want to load a few MW instead, Ohh and cant forget the ECM drones, should I put that one on a IV with a Explosive warhead, or with a probe or with a . . .) you get the idea.

Actualy the game realy needs type III drones.