Post by: Marauth on August 24, 2003, 02:26:45 pm
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 24, 2003, 03:05:10 pm
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What it says on the topic line, I was reading some stuff on the KA website and I remembered abou the Sha'Kurians, their fleet is made entirely of carriers and assault fighters plus the ships looked pretty cool especially the Hunter class CVL. I fanyone has converted them to .MOD could they give me a link or if anyone has them on their comp could they send them to my email.
I *believe* DarkMatrix told me that they didn't survive the conversion process to SFC. Something to do with the way the models were made caused them to get distorted, if I recall correctly. If I'm WAY OFF, its probably because he didn't like the models, possibly because 'We already have Hydrans in SFC' [my words not DM's]. I do recall him telling me that KA models were a pain in the Arse to convert....
At any rate, he converted a bunch of Klingon Academy ships; the Klingon worker bee style shuttle (unlit), the tri-armed Klingon Starbase, a klingon outpost (same Klingon base but no arms), the Emperor and Suvwi' Qeh, the entire KA Tholian fleet (it took over a year to get them lit, fixed and flying in the right direction; I also have THE latest texture fixes for them). the Feds and the Roms weren't as memorable (IMHO) and I only have the Federation shuttle (unlit). He also converted the Altair Cruiselines luxury liner and I recently sent it back to him and requested it be scaled to FDN size and to be lit, lol. Now THAT is a luxury liner unlike the STOCK factory on warp engines that meets Steve Jackson's OGRE, lol.
Having written that, let me say that the quality of KA inspired models greatly IMPROVED after DarkMatrix released his KA conversions about two years ago. Naturally, his site is down too...
Moonraker brought us a higher poly Romulan Legion ( I retextured using Ganymad's textures), Praex escort and the KA RBB (unlit if I recall, I'm not using it at present) a great Ulysses class (USS Nebachnezzer) later retextured by Ganymad (and myself, LOL. I kept Moon's bridge textures on it). He also released a set of red/brown textures for the Suvwi' Qeh that I applied to Cromwell/Cleeve's Suvwi' Qeh ( THE current standard Suvwi' Qeh and my favorite Klingon ship). If memory serves, Cromwell also made an Emperor class too.
While we are walking down memory lane, P81 did an Emperor and a bunch of KA Gorn prior to DarkMatrix's conversions.
Hmmm... Did I miss anything?
Post by: Marauth on August 24, 2003, 03:15:21 pm
For the n00bs present the Chicago was the first ever ship released for SFCI, it's a pretty terrible bash of the stock fca but it's a piece of history really.
Anyway, back to the Sha'Kurians - would anyone be able to convert them? Why is it such a pain in the ass to convert them? And what's this red stuff dripping on the keyboard. Oh wait it's blood
LOLIf no one will convert them then could anyone make some new ones based on the KA ones? (really I'd like to have the originals but if they can't be converted then something's better than nothing aye)
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 24, 2003, 03:39:46 pm
Funny you should bring up the original USS Chicago kitbash! I am also looking for it for historical archive purposes. I re-downloaded Moonraker's latest version last night.
I just checked Newships: http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/newships/shipyard and could not find it BUT the original 'Defiant' a la Romulan kitbash/retexture is there... Memories...
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Marauth on August 24, 2003, 04:17:59 pm
Post by: Terradyhne on August 25, 2003, 12:36:20 pm
Post by: Marauth on August 25, 2003, 12:43:55 pm
Nice one Terradyhne, was the original only 363 polies? I was sure the Ka ships were higher poly than that, as for should you convert theym? Yes please! The SCVL is the best of the 5 IMO but the Longfang is also pretty cool.
For those who don't know about the Sha'Kurians, they were basically Hydrans but sandwiched in between the Klingons and Romulans instead of Klingons and Lyrans, in this position they also have contact with the Tholians and have had conflicts with all three though they're not expansionist it's usually the fault of the Klingons or Romulans, their war with the Tholians took place in the 2280s and was a victory for them but obviously the Tholians would never yield territory
so it was probably a pointless war. I don't particularly care much for their very sparse background info from KA but their ships were very cool as you can see.
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 25, 2003, 01:25:03 pm
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i have converted the SCVL to 3ds and that will be not the problem to be converted to SFC 2 and i could convert the others to but readding the textures is stupid and takes some time
Now we just need Terradyne to actually release this and the rest of his fine models that he is taunting us with, LOL!
Great job Terradyne!
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 29, 2003, 01:06:12 pm
[Tongue-in-cheek] This is a MUST have for any Klingon Academy to SFC Mod!
KF
Post by: Marauth on August 29, 2003, 03:07:20 pm
j/k Seriously Terradyhne, your torturing me not releasing this thing, my skin is getting pale(r than usual)Ok enough vampire jokes for one post
BUMPing this for info on a release
Post by: Terradyhne on August 30, 2003, 02:10:44 am
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 30, 2003, 07:41:43 am
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if you guys tell me where to place the hardpoint`s for those ships i wouldl convert them for ya because my KA is not more running at my PC and i don't know where to place the weapons and how much
I would recommend matching the hardpoints up with similar looking Hydran ships. That's my humble opinion.
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Marauth on August 30, 2003, 09:41:38 am
Alpha class super-carrier (SCVB)
length: 991m
weapons: forward arc: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers
aft arc: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers
port/starboard: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 5 multiwarhead projectile launchers each
the ship also has something called a GDDS but I don't remember what that is. I guess the rapid-fire phasers are akin to one of the more powerfull types of gatling phaser while multiwarhead projectiles can just be drones for the purposes of SFC.
the ship carries 30 Sharp Tooth bombers.
Longfang class heavy carrier (SCVA)
717m
Forward: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 1 multiwarhead projectile launcher
Aft: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 1 multiwarhead projectile launcher
Port/Starboard: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers each
Special: 1 GDDS generator
Bombers: 15 Sharp-Tooth class bombers
Hunter class light carrier (SCVL)
504m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 2 ATG projectile launchers
Aft: 1 rapid-fire phaser
Port/Starboard: 1 rapid-fire phaser each
Special: 1 GDDS generator
Fighters: 15 Claw class superiority/intercept fighters
Sharp-Tooth class fighter/bomber (SA)
30m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 2 ATG projectile launchers
Claw class superiority fighters (SF)
30m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 1 ballistic projectile launcher
I also have no clue what ATG projectiles are so, once again drones, the kind that fighters launch, fogotten the type.
Sorry I can't be of any real help with the hardpoints
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on August 30, 2003, 12:19:02 pm
Again for those of us following at home check out this background info on the Sha' Kurians:
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/klingonacademy/archive/kanews/shakurian/index.html
This is from the December 1999 Klingon Academy Website. Check out the Screen shots pages, wonderful stuff here:
"One additional note about Sha'kurian weapons technology, is their relatively recent acquisition of the Graviton Density Distortion Sphere Generator or GDDS. The Gorn originally developed the GDDS during one of their many wars with the Romulan Empire. During that war, Romulan troops captured a ship equipped with one of these devices for study. The Romulans towed the vessel to a research facility far from the Gorn border in what was then one of the farthest frontiers of their empire. Not long after research began on the enigmatic Gorn device, the Romulans made a regrettable first-contact with the Sha'kurians. Romulan expansionist dogma clashed violently with Sha'kurian territoriality causing a second front to open for the Romulans. During the fighting, a Sha'kurian raiding force captured the research station and the GDDS as well. The Sha'kurians adapted the Gorn device to fit within their combat tactics and have been fielding them ever since, utilizing the defensive capabilities of the GDDS to a far greater extent than the Gorn and thus greatly increasing the survivability of their carrier forces. "
Aside from the Sha' Kurians and a small number of SFC1 Klingon Academy conversions by Darkdrone (Luxury Liner) that need to be adjusted and lit, we have enough stuff probably to do a Klingon Academy mod, LOL.
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Reverend on August 30, 2003, 04:36:13 pm
Is there any other races on Klingon Academy? I never saw it available here in the Midwest- all we got was a precious few SFC and stupid Dominion Wars...
Post by: Marauth on August 30, 2003, 05:59:07 pm
@ Terradyhne LOL I get what you mean about the hardpoints, there's not really any reference points like phaser arrays on Fed ships.Dominion Wars did suck didn't it. The version they seel in the UK didn't even have that shipeditor thingy that they gave free in America.
KA promised so much but you needed an astrophysics degree to play it, much like SFC requires a membership in MENSA to be any good (I still suck at it after - I think - 5 years since SFCI came out)
Post by: Reverend on September 01, 2003, 11:49:27 am
Someone please model those Sha'kurians!!
Post by: Marauth on September 01, 2003, 11:57:59 am
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 01, 2003, 12:14:37 pm
I bought Starship Creator I,
and Starship Creator II,
Alas,
I was very disappointed with both,
at I could get netiher to run properly,
Did you ever build a starhship,
in either Starship Creator, and get it to "fly a complete mission"?
I've got both sitting "in the box",
gathering dust,
As I 3d mod things now, to build my own starships,
I accept that I bouhgt a product that I could never get to work,
But I admit this Starship Creator, always made me feel,
disappointed, and frankly cheated,
Take care,
GeneralWolfe
Post by: Marauth on September 01, 2003, 12:27:07 pm
So anyway BUMPing for info - Terradyhne, where you at bud?
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 01, 2003, 01:37:52 pm
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You know that ship creator was actually sold. For money. You had to pay to posses it! Seriously it was rated at like 10% in all the games mags. Oh well I never liked TNG as much as my beloved TMP, they should have kept SFCIII in TMP and done the Andromedan Invasion, or any of the minor conflicts like the Hydran war to recover the Landfalk system, the Klingon war against the Vudar, the Romulan civil war, the WYN war of return against the Kzintianything but the crap they cooked up.
TVL,
My sentiments exactly, LOL. IF we EVER get a Hi-poly accurate Melak I'll go back to doing a TMP Andromedan Invasion Era mod, lol.
Check out my webpages devoted to just this very subject.
http://www.klingonfanatic4.20m.com
Keep in mind this is a WIP....
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Marauth on September 01, 2003, 01:58:27 pm
Post by: Marauth on September 02, 2003, 02:18:30 pm
LOL
Any progress Terradyhne?
Post by: Marauth on September 05, 2003, 02:33:28 pm
Kirk-style Bump going on here
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 05, 2003, 03:19:59 pm
Anybody else notice the Klingon Academy theme in the model forums lately?
Terradyne post some news please.
Qapla!
KF
Post by: Reverend on September 06, 2003, 04:09:12 pm
Oh well, for all the SFBisms (no offense guys), SFC series fortunately has turned out to be one of the more (re)playable game series of all times. Maybe someone will cook up a couple of new versions someday...
I do fear that that new Playstation game Shattered Universe is going to be completely idiotic... seems by the screenshots to be a ''X-Wing Pilot" with Star Trek ships... anotherr reason to not buy game consoles, as they only wish to put out things that will make a dollars, not playablility.
otherwise, BUMP for info, and for an exciting thread!
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 07, 2003, 08:47:58 am
I'm out of sequence! I thought it was TVLs turn to bump this post, LOL.
KF
Post by: Marauth on September 07, 2003, 09:23:23 am
Post by: Reverend on September 07, 2003, 09:11:29 pm
Post by: Terradyhne on September 08, 2003, 12:43:46 pm
Post by: Marauth on September 08, 2003, 01:35:34 pm
Post by: Reverend on September 12, 2003, 02:41:40 pm
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 13, 2003, 03:28:57 pm
KF
Post by: Reverend on October 04, 2003, 02:11:48 pm