Post by: Atrahasis on September 24, 2003, 02:58:31 pm
Available here:
http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/trek-hw/atrahasis/dl/kmirra.zip
You have to use the K-BB SSD and not the K-DN one, if you want the weapons to fire form the right locations. Hardpoints 1 and 2 are the twin fwd torp launchers or they could be disruptors, and 3 and 4 are heavy weapons that fire from the front of the engines.
Post by: Silverstone on September 24, 2003, 03:15:43 pm
Very nice.
Post by: Smiley on September 24, 2003, 04:07:04 pm
Post by: starforce2 on September 24, 2003, 07:28:31 pm
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 24, 2003, 08:22:00 pm
Well done Atrahasis!
Another fine addition to the FASA to SFC Collection.
This makes EIGHT Komo Val ships or varient's.
L-24A Atrahsis (don't have)
L-24A retexture
L-24 P81 TOS style
L-24 kitbash (two heads Tos Style)
L-24 TMP Retexture Atrahahsis
L-24c D2 mod (3 engines) Atrahahsis
L-24 Phoenix D2 Mod (Romulanized) P81
K' Mirra
Thank you Atrahasis!
KF
Post by: E_Look on September 24, 2003, 08:29:59 pm
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looks a bit silly IMHO, but great model never the less.
Silly???
In what way? I think it looks very nice! It looks like, uh, what do you guys call it, L-24 or something? It's a nice job and yes, the textures are very... well, to quote someone else aboard another starship (I'm sure the true geeks will know... ), "... how pleasing to the eye it is... ".
Post by: starforce2 on September 24, 2003, 09:09:11 pm
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looks a bit silly IMHO, but great model never the less.
Silly???
In what way? I think it looks very nice! It looks like, uh, what do you guys call it, L-24 or something? It's a nice job and yes, the textures are very... well, to quote someone else aboard another starship (I'm sure the true geeks will know... ), "... how pleasing to the eye it is... ".
I never said it wasn't a nice looking model, it just the idea of a klingon ship with excelcior nacelles is a bit strange.
Post by: NannerSlug on September 24, 2003, 09:29:15 pm
Post by: Silverstone on September 24, 2003, 09:40:12 pm
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I never said it wasn't a nice looking model, it just the idea of a klingon ship with excelcior nacelles is a bit strange.
I dunno. If you ask me, it's about as strange as the Vor'cha's having red engine glows after years, even centuries of green for Klink vessels. However, I must admit that the notion of Starfleet's sharing parts of its most advanced design about a decade into construction is a bit wierd...
Who cares. Again, very good.
Post by: starforce2 on September 24, 2003, 10:13:03 pm
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I never said it wasn't a nice looking model, it just the idea of a klingon ship with excelcior nacelles is a bit strange.
I dunno. If you ask me, it's about as strange as the Vor'cha's having red engine glows after years, even centuries of green for Klink vessels. However, I must admit that the notion of Starfleet's sharing parts of its most advanced design about a decade into construction is a bit wierd...
Who cares. Again, very good.
technicly, the BOP didn't fallow this rule, and the Ktinga had blue nacelle grilles.
Post by: Rod O'neal on September 24, 2003, 10:33:46 pm
Who cares. Again, very good.
technicly, the BOP didn't fallow this rule, and the Ktinga had blue nacelle grilles.
Klingons should be grey, damn it!!! If it wasn't for The Search for Spock's script getting leaked out, they still would be. lol
...and Klingons should still have disruptors, not photons!!! ...and Romulans should still have Plasma torps not disruptors!!! ...and they should still be evil. ...and... Never mind, nobody cares.
I'll just open another beer and enjoy the green, photon toting, ridge browed, good guys. (yuck!)
Post by: starforce2 on September 24, 2003, 11:49:12 pm
Post by: Captain Ron on September 25, 2003, 12:02:26 am
Post by: Atrahasis on September 25, 2003, 10:23:53 am
Post by: Captain KoraH on September 25, 2003, 10:32:20 am
KF, you forgot my TNZ remesh of the L-24 in your list. It's available in the current TNZ mod if you can get it from anyone.
Post by: Dogmatix! on September 25, 2003, 10:51:45 am
Thanks for your work on it. Like others, I've always really liked your Klingon textures too. The color scheme is much more preferable to me than the more green-oriented textures that seem to be prevalent.
Have you given any more thought to working on some TMP-style Klingon carriers in the vein of your D5, C7 and C5 works? It sure would be nice to have some carriers designed along those lines that were still pretty easily distinguishable from their non-carrier counterparts.
Post by: Kaenyne on September 25, 2003, 11:03:53 am
Where could I find those variants you listed?
So far I have just two: the K'mirra and what looks like the L24 as it appears in FASA's Klingon Ship Recognition Guide.
Any way you could post images/links of these variants as well?
Thanks!
Post by: Atrahasis on September 25, 2003, 12:14:12 pm
Notes: Since according to TNG the Klingon-Federation Alliance did not form until after the year 2340, the start date of 2300 for this ship is a bit early. However, you can just imagine that the Klingons acquired Federation technology not via an alliance at the time, but via espionage.
Here are the stats, translated into SFC terms from the FASA numbers:
Hull: DN
Special Role: C
Balance: 0
BPV: ???
Ship: 5
Year available: first: 37
Last: 999
Base: ----
Refits: ----
R/L Warp: 30
Center Warp: 0
Impulse: 20
APR: 8
Battery: 15
Bridge: 16
Lab: 6
Security: 5
Transporters: 12
Tractors: 5
Size: 2
Turn Mode: E
Move Cost: 2
Acceleration: 15 (for transwarp, 10 for regular warp)
Stealth: 0
HET+Nimble: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Cloak: ----
ADD 12: 4
Explosion: 47
Sensors: 10
Scanners: 10
Dam Con: 10
Shield: 80, 60, 60, 60
FWD Hull: 5
Aft Hull: 55 (NOTE: Hull values derived from direct volume measurements of F-FCA and this ship in 3DSMAX)
Cargo: ----
Baracks: ----
Armor: ----
Excess: 10
Crew: 30
Min: 4
Deck: 8
Marines: 32 / 64
Fighter Bay 1 & 2: 4 X K-Swift.I
Shuttles:
Bay: 6
Launch: 2
Min: 4
Max: 6
Weapons:
HP 11 = 2 X PhX, FX
HP 12 = 2 X PhX, RS
HP 13 = 2 X PhX, LS
HP 3 = 1 X DisH, FA
HP 4 = 1 X DisH, FA
HP 16 = 1 X Dis4, FAR
HP 17 = 1 X Dis4, FAL
HP 18 = 1 X Dis4, RS
HP 19 = 1 X Dis4, LS
HP 1 = 2 X PhoH, FA
HP 2 = 2 X PhoH, FA
HP 5 = 2 X PhoH, RA
HP 7 = 4 X DroB, 2 reloads
HP 8 = 4 X DroB, 2 reloads
HP 9 = ADD_12 X 4, arc 1
****END OF DATA****
Post by: Atrahasis on September 25, 2003, 01:17:40 pm
http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/trek-hw/atrahasis/gallery/fx1.bmp
Post by: Captain KoraH on September 25, 2003, 04:01:11 pm
Post by: Atrahasis on September 25, 2003, 04:09:48 pm
Post by: Captain KoraH on September 26, 2003, 12:03:44 am
Post by: Silverstone on September 26, 2003, 10:46:05 pm
@specs*For a while, there was no need to have the Enterprise-B Subtype in SFC. It's a nice ship, but over the top when it comes to strength,
Considering that an L24 could take an Excelsior, and that the KDF-2 is a large improvement over that ship, I think that EB specs are a good idea, now.
Post by: Atrahasis on September 28, 2003, 09:40:23 am
Post by: Silverstone on September 28, 2003, 01:43:50 pm
It's rather interesting to play with. I thought that combining disruptors with heavy photons would end up being a bad idea, but the power curve is fair, it seems to be on a par with an Excelsior. It sometimes feels bogged, but resolves itself. I bested the computer with this ship all times. AI admittedly isn't the most crafty opponent, but I tend to come away with minimal damage, leaving me with the impression that the K'mirra is an equal, if not superior vessel.
I play it much like I do your BOP specs. Instead of fighting with all weapons hot, I'll use them in groups. This allows one to maintain a fairly high speed, and many attack options. I don't reccommend attack passes and overruns. With a turning ratio of E and 2 points for every 1,000 K, you're setting yourself up for internal damage. The best weapons are the MIssiles, which occupy phasers, and Heavy Torpedoes, which are devastating with multiple hits, shields up or down. The disruptors and phasers are better saved to take advantage of downed or weak shield facings, as I think that they're in too low of numbers to do anything drastic beside piss off your opponent.
To make a long story short, I see the K'mirra as a very fun ship. It's capable of being a brute, but is better and more fun with used with a tactical mindset. I think that a ship like this justifies speculating an Enterprise-B into the game, as its counterpart in Excelsior is fairly matched by the Komo'Val and quite vulnerable against the K'mirra.