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Title: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 10:39:55 am
dont tell me t'pol isnt for ratings. hehe.

sadly, it looks like trek is no longer a family show.

http://www.trektoday.com/news/111103_01.shtml
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Strafer on November 11, 2003, 11:25:04 am
With a plot like that, they should adjust the airtime to mid/late afternoon!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 11:46:10 am
no kidding.

i can see next season.. T'pol pregnant with whos baby..
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: 3dot14 on November 11, 2003, 12:23:12 pm
Quote:

no kidding.

i can see next season.. T'pol pregnant with whos baby..  


 
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Potemkin on November 11, 2003, 01:07:12 pm
That's too bad.  Paramount can't get good ratings with good acting and scripting - so they "have to" resort to this sort of... gimick.  Spend more time on a good story!

 
Po~
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Toasty0 on November 11, 2003, 01:48:02 pm
I can see it coming now: Episode 89 "Who shot T'pol"  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: 762 on November 11, 2003, 02:21:10 pm
Looks like T'Pol is getting T's pole!

*runs*
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Mentat Jon on November 11, 2003, 03:26:56 pm
I am of two thoughts on this matter:

the dirty old man part  of me says: YEAH more T'pol



The trek geek side of me says: Paramont whoring for ratings, ill let you know what side is won when it airs  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Mentat Jon on November 11, 2003, 03:28:12 pm
ZAAAP <PUN ALERT REBOOT>        
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on November 11, 2003, 03:45:59 pm
Yeah!!! That never would have happened on Kirk's Enterprise. <snicker>

As for family show, I personally feel it is more appropriate for children to see physical affection than violence any day.
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 11, 2003, 03:53:58 pm
Like this wasn't coming since Day One.  Half of Trip and T'Pol's scenes could have 70s porn music in the background...

"Oh no, we have to go in the decon chamber."

"Take off your clothes.  I'll get the decontaminate gel and the body lotion."

"Here, I'll take off my shirt and your can rub my 'pressure points.'"

See?  Works, doesn't it?
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: DH123 on November 11, 2003, 09:41:39 pm
Quote:

Yeah!!! That never would have happened on Kirk's Enterprise. <snicker>






Krik would have nailed both the Vulcan and the corporal.  
 
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 10:29:24 pm
LOL.. DH and rat bot is right.

waannnk... chicka chicka.. waaaannk.. chicka chicka.
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 12, 2003, 09:27:02 pm
Scifi shows always have that kind of content. I wish they would replace all the sexual content with ship-to-ship combat!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAdam on November 13, 2003, 11:49:44 am
hey its not like this is the first time a trek series resorted to some form of sexuality to increase ratings for a show.  Like say the adding of seven to voyager.  now that is a pure example of the borg doing something right.  lol  man i would love to have been there when they decided to put a new character on the show to improve ratings.

producer "we need a new character some one that will draw interest back to the show"

writer " hmmmm  well how about the borg  we have that whole borg story arc coming up,  and the fans do love the borg"

trekky adviser  "  well if it is a borg it will need to be deasimilated  or at least an individual....  how about hew,  he is a borg and we did want to get some one from a previos series"

producer " hmmm  this hew fellow  what actor plays him and was he a popular character?"

writer "  you cant be serious hews diolage sucked  i refuse to do it, and besides who wants to watch a uncourdinated borg"

producer "your right, what we need is sex appeal, we need a female borg.....  some one to make all the teen aged boys watch the show"

trekky adviser   (thinks to himself) this will make a mockery of the show i will not allow it. to use sex to get ratings on star trek.  how wrong.

writer  "hmmmmmmm .......... i wouldnt have used the word watched......"

producer " yup that is what we will do,  we will hire a drop dead gorgeous woman and put her in a skin tight suit"

trekky adviser (thinks to himself)  omg when does the first episode come on i cant wait to watch.............

.........

lol just a fly on the wall,  actually the heck when they decided to do it.  i wish i was there when they did the auditions  

and every episode has its moments where some one was doing something naughty with some one else.

data and yar
riker and alien nurse
spock and romulan commander
kirk and nearly every woman on the show.
jane way and holographic bartender
seven and harry kim (dream)
seven and chakota
seven and the doctor (o come on we all know they did  )
worf and his first wife
worf and jadsia dax
worf and desri dax

and the list goes on..  heck even picard got it on a few times..   lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies    
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Sirgod on November 13, 2003, 11:55:02 am
 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAdam on November 13, 2003, 05:04:10 pm
Quote:

 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen  



that sounds familiar but i just cant place it.   you would think i would but i guess the female/android session is more memorable  lol  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NCC74656 on November 13, 2003, 09:29:44 pm
speaking of trek not being a family show any more, the rating for the last episode of enterprise was tv-14 for violence... that was probably just that episode, but...
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on November 13, 2003, 11:37:52 pm
Dax, with another female trill with which her host had a relationship with in a previous life.  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Reven on November 14, 2003, 01:48:35 am
Crusher was FILMED kissing another woman, but the scene was cut prior to airing.  I believe it was also a Trill - the one who took over Riker's body and ended up in a female host at the end.  This was the episode that introduced the Trill.  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: TalonClaw on November 14, 2003, 09:19:00 am
Stop complaining guys.  They explored Vulcan sex in TOS with Spock in AMOK TIME.

I'm all for seeing more and for seeing more of T'POL.    
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 14, 2003, 10:39:31 am
three words:

wank-chicka chicka
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 15, 2003, 09:17:08 pm
They showed Picard's butt in the episode where he is captured by a Cardassian and interrogated. That is the same episode with my favorite quote from the series.

Picard: THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

LOL!!!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: DiggityDank on November 16, 2003, 09:24:02 am
Quote:

 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen  



I've heard that from a lot of people, then I remind them Wesley is a guy  

j/k
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: vsfedwards on November 16, 2003, 09:38:56 am
Wesleys a guy?!!!?!!?!?
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Draco on November 16, 2003, 05:16:35 pm
TOS and TNG may have had sexual content, but it came off as tasteful, this looks like ST is moving away from that, besides vulcans don't do that sort of thing, that's what pon-far is for. It might be explainable if T'Pol were said to be young and less capable of emotional control than other vulcans we have seen, but I wouldn't buy that. All in all this story sounds a little  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: vsfedwards on November 16, 2003, 05:25:03 pm
IMO their trying too hard! Their trying to get all technical with this alternate timeline rubbish!! They should have had it as a war with the klinks and an introduction of the Roms...keep its simple..keep it safe!!
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 16, 2003, 09:58:32 pm
I agree with vsfedwards. Replace the sex and alternate timeline with ship-to-ship combat!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAbyss on November 17, 2003, 05:08:27 am
    Can't wait 'till the new series comes over here. At least they decided not to edit the material like they did with DS9.    
Title: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 10:39:55 am
dont tell me t'pol isnt for ratings. hehe.

sadly, it looks like trek is no longer a family show.

http://www.trektoday.com/news/111103_01.shtml
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Strafer on November 11, 2003, 11:25:04 am
With a plot like that, they should adjust the airtime to mid/late afternoon!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 11:46:10 am
no kidding.

i can see next season.. T'pol pregnant with whos baby..
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: 3dot14 on November 11, 2003, 12:23:12 pm
Quote:

no kidding.

i can see next season.. T'pol pregnant with whos baby..  


 
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Potemkin on November 11, 2003, 01:07:12 pm
That's too bad.  Paramount can't get good ratings with good acting and scripting - so they "have to" resort to this sort of... gimick.  Spend more time on a good story!

 
Po~
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Toasty0 on November 11, 2003, 01:48:02 pm
I can see it coming now: Episode 89 "Who shot T'pol"  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: 762 on November 11, 2003, 02:21:10 pm
Looks like T'Pol is getting T's pole!

*runs*
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Mentat Jon on November 11, 2003, 03:26:56 pm
I am of two thoughts on this matter:

the dirty old man part  of me says: YEAH more T'pol



The trek geek side of me says: Paramont whoring for ratings, ill let you know what side is won when it airs  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Mentat Jon on November 11, 2003, 03:28:12 pm
ZAAAP <PUN ALERT REBOOT>        
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on November 11, 2003, 03:45:59 pm
Yeah!!! That never would have happened on Kirk's Enterprise. <snicker>

As for family show, I personally feel it is more appropriate for children to see physical affection than violence any day.
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 11, 2003, 03:53:58 pm
Like this wasn't coming since Day One.  Half of Trip and T'Pol's scenes could have 70s porn music in the background...

"Oh no, we have to go in the decon chamber."

"Take off your clothes.  I'll get the decontaminate gel and the body lotion."

"Here, I'll take off my shirt and your can rub my 'pressure points.'"

See?  Works, doesn't it?
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: DH123 on November 11, 2003, 09:41:39 pm
Quote:

Yeah!!! That never would have happened on Kirk's Enterprise. <snicker>






Krik would have nailed both the Vulcan and the corporal.  
 
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 11, 2003, 10:29:24 pm
LOL.. DH and rat bot is right.

waannnk... chicka chicka.. waaaannk.. chicka chicka.
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 12, 2003, 09:27:02 pm
Scifi shows always have that kind of content. I wish they would replace all the sexual content with ship-to-ship combat!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAdam on November 13, 2003, 11:49:44 am
hey its not like this is the first time a trek series resorted to some form of sexuality to increase ratings for a show.  Like say the adding of seven to voyager.  now that is a pure example of the borg doing something right.  lol  man i would love to have been there when they decided to put a new character on the show to improve ratings.

producer "we need a new character some one that will draw interest back to the show"

writer " hmmmm  well how about the borg  we have that whole borg story arc coming up,  and the fans do love the borg"

trekky adviser  "  well if it is a borg it will need to be deasimilated  or at least an individual....  how about hew,  he is a borg and we did want to get some one from a previos series"

producer " hmmm  this hew fellow  what actor plays him and was he a popular character?"

writer "  you cant be serious hews diolage sucked  i refuse to do it, and besides who wants to watch a uncourdinated borg"

producer "your right, what we need is sex appeal, we need a female borg.....  some one to make all the teen aged boys watch the show"

trekky adviser   (thinks to himself) this will make a mockery of the show i will not allow it. to use sex to get ratings on star trek.  how wrong.

writer  "hmmmmmmm .......... i wouldnt have used the word watched......"

producer " yup that is what we will do,  we will hire a drop dead gorgeous woman and put her in a skin tight suit"

trekky adviser (thinks to himself)  omg when does the first episode come on i cant wait to watch.............

.........

lol just a fly on the wall,  actually the heck when they decided to do it.  i wish i was there when they did the auditions  

and every episode has its moments where some one was doing something naughty with some one else.

data and yar
riker and alien nurse
spock and romulan commander
kirk and nearly every woman on the show.
jane way and holographic bartender
seven and harry kim (dream)
seven and chakota
seven and the doctor (o come on we all know they did  )
worf and his first wife
worf and jadsia dax
worf and desri dax

and the list goes on..  heck even picard got it on a few times..   lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies    
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Sirgod on November 13, 2003, 11:55:02 am
 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAdam on November 13, 2003, 05:04:10 pm
Quote:

 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen  



that sounds familiar but i just cant place it.   you would think i would but i guess the female/android session is more memorable  lol  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NCC74656 on November 13, 2003, 09:29:44 pm
speaking of trek not being a family show any more, the rating for the last episode of enterprise was tv-14 for violence... that was probably just that episode, but...
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on November 13, 2003, 11:37:52 pm
Dax, with another female trill with which her host had a relationship with in a previous life.  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Reven on November 14, 2003, 01:48:35 am
Crusher was FILMED kissing another woman, but the scene was cut prior to airing.  I believe it was also a Trill - the one who took over Riker's body and ended up in a female host at the end.  This was the episode that introduced the Trill.  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: TalonClaw on November 14, 2003, 09:19:00 am
Stop complaining guys.  They explored Vulcan sex in TOS with Spock in AMOK TIME.

I'm all for seeing more and for seeing more of T'POL.    
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NannerSlug on November 14, 2003, 10:39:31 am
three words:

wank-chicka chicka
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 15, 2003, 09:17:08 pm
They showed Picard's butt in the episode where he is captured by a Cardassian and interrogated. That is the same episode with my favorite quote from the series.

Picard: THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

LOL!!!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: DiggityDank on November 16, 2003, 09:24:02 am
Quote:

 
Quote:

and the list goes on.. heck even picard got it on a few times.. lets face it sex is a part of star trek and just think of all those future trekies that will be watching more often once they chetch a glimps of t'pols goodies  



Didn't Crusher have the first Lesbian kiss also on air, Or was that another Lady of Trek?

Stephen  



I've heard that from a lot of people, then I remind them Wesley is a guy  

j/k
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: vsfedwards on November 16, 2003, 09:38:56 am
Wesleys a guy?!!!?!!?!?
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: Draco on November 16, 2003, 05:16:35 pm
TOS and TNG may have had sexual content, but it came off as tasteful, this looks like ST is moving away from that, besides vulcans don't do that sort of thing, that's what pon-far is for. It might be explainable if T'Pol were said to be young and less capable of emotional control than other vulcans we have seen, but I wouldn't buy that. All in all this story sounds a little  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: vsfedwards on November 16, 2003, 05:25:03 pm
IMO their trying too hard! Their trying to get all technical with this alternate timeline rubbish!! They should have had it as a war with the klinks and an introduction of the Roms...keep its simple..keep it safe!!
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: NightStalker-SFC3 on November 16, 2003, 09:58:32 pm
I agree with vsfedwards. Replace the sex and alternate timeline with ship-to-ship combat!  
Title: Re: PG-13 material for feb sweeps with enterprise
Post by: SBOAbyss on November 17, 2003, 05:08:27 am
    Can't wait 'till the new series comes over here. At least they decided not to edit the material like they did with DS9.