Post by: Azel on January 20, 2004, 10:32:07 am
I think Rogue NineCH will be attempting the kitbash
Thanks everyone
Post by: Chrystoff on January 20, 2004, 10:41:04 am
Post by: Kaenyne on January 20, 2004, 11:01:58 am
Looks like you drew up an uber Belknap Class!
She'll even scare the socks off a Klingon Battlecruiser!
Post by: Tus on January 20, 2004, 11:57:05 am
Post by: Azel on January 20, 2004, 04:05:07 pm
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I think it needs more torpedo launchers!!
LOL
I don't know why I put so many on...but I guess it was time that I try my own uber-cruiser???
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Hey Azel!
Looks like you drew up an uber Belknap Class!
She'll even scare the socks off a Klingon Battlecruiser!
She's a" tad" stronger than the Belknap...but alot slower max speed with one nacelle and all
nor does she have the science labs of a connie...she is just built for deep interdiction and strike...and
the occasional patrol
Post by: Rod O'neal on January 20, 2004, 09:39:18 pm
Post by: Core on January 20, 2004, 10:06:02 pm
got a few more that youd like to shear
Post by: sandman69247 on January 20, 2004, 10:10:02 pm
Post by: Reverend on January 20, 2004, 11:30:54 pm
Post by: Azel on January 21, 2004, 11:18:44 am
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nice man very nice
got a few more that youd like to shear
I always have Ideas...but if you have something in mind.....
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Very cool, a high power uber-PT Boat.
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nice design.... you'rea real snazzy penciller....
Thanks man...that sketch is like 4 inches...lol
Post by: Core on January 21, 2004, 11:27:31 am
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I always have Ideas...but if you have something in mind.....
i heve planty just wait for the weakend ive got a few more in my slive just waiting for me to realise them
Post by: starforce2 on January 21, 2004, 01:12:34 pm
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on January 21, 2004, 01:23:05 pm
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What's this about a 4 inch pencil?
......-_-.....
Post by: Reverend on January 21, 2004, 01:30:07 pm
Post by: Core on January 21, 2004, 02:03:21 pm
Post by: Azel on January 21, 2004, 04:23:56 pm
Nice... but can we please stick to the subject
Thanks mates
Post by: Azel on January 21, 2004, 05:17:26 pm
I am not to sure if I like it though
Post by: Azel on January 22, 2004, 02:11:17 pm
Post by: Core on January 22, 2004, 02:31:29 pm
but its stil gret
tng era that is
Post by: Kaenyne on January 22, 2004, 02:32:10 pm
Got wrapped up in all my stuff I forgot to comment on your new version, Azel!
I like it about as much as the first, but really like th eshape of the seondary hull, minus nacelles, weapons pods, etc.
I dunno...I just looks cool.
To be completely honest, I miss your Hellion, Neophyte and Monster releases. They are just so cool...my game is chock full of 'em.
I know you like to try all sorts of things, and I think you should follow your own heart, but your creations are THE most beautiful and unique things I have ever seen for SFC.
So there.
Post by: Core on January 22, 2004, 02:32:17 pm
Post by: Azel on January 22, 2004, 09:46:29 pm
Well at least a little more satisfied
Post by: Azel on January 23, 2004, 11:05:44 am
Post by: Kaenyne on January 23, 2004, 11:18:02 am
Hmmm...the photon tubes on the dorsal and ventral saucer seem...argh, like a bad idea.
I dunno, sitting on the bridge while matter-antimatter weapons streak away seems like a dangerous, if not loud, experience for captain and command crew.
Post by: Core on January 23, 2004, 12:27:02 pm
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no ideas???
whell you cold make the photon lunchers thet go thru the sensore aray go below but they shuld origenaite from the same plase that they do now
how's that for an idea?
Post by: Azel on January 23, 2004, 01:27:16 pm
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Much smoother, sleeker look this time.
Hmmm...the photon tubes on the dorsal and ventral saucer seem...argh, like a bad idea.
I dunno, sitting on the bridge while matter-antimatter weapons streak away seems like a dangerous, if not loud, experience for captain and command crew.
I agree
...but due to the nature of the ship's mission...they are very much neededalso improves the ships direct fire arc
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whell you cold make the photon lunchers thet go thru the sensore aray go below but they shuld origenaite from the same plase that they do now
how's that for an idea?
I like that too
...maybe on a variant...or a more less conspicuos ship lolPost by: starforce2 on January 23, 2004, 06:54:12 pm
Post by: Core on January 24, 2004, 06:05:31 am
Post by: Azel on January 24, 2004, 08:57:10 am
Post by: MajorRacal on January 24, 2004, 11:02:43 am
All those photon launcher grafts are overkill - but worse than that, they're ugly. Please abort this.MajorRacal
Post by: Azel on January 24, 2004, 11:22:47 am
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I don't think I've got a reputation here as being something of a nay-sayer, and I can see a lot of folk seem to like this idea, but can I be negative and say "No!"? All those photon launcher grafts are overkill - but worse than that, they're ugly. Please abort this.
Its cool man...like I said earlier in the post...this is my "fan-boyish"- "Uber-Cruiser"
its not for anything special...just somthing that I liked, and wanted to do
the ship is actually practical though...especially in wartime, or in a time of desperation, or just mirror universe...but I didn't do it for that
I did it for me
If you look at my track record...all my stuff has been out there...this is just another extension...but in a fun way,
you don't have to like it...Its cool with me...I cannot be expected to please everyone all the time
lolso in saying that let me have some fun
because I am
Post by: MajorRacal on January 24, 2004, 12:42:26 pm
Post by: Azel on January 24, 2004, 04:01:21 pm
Post by: Core on January 25, 2004, 03:08:41 pm
hope you like them, i copy'd acopele from a site that is probably down now some are modifide
and besids evry ship i do has its own nucele design
Post by: Azel on January 25, 2004, 10:47:58 pm
Post by: atheorhaven on January 26, 2004, 10:59:57 am
If you can wait on this until this upcoming weekend, I might be able to help out on it.
Post by: sandman69247 on January 26, 2004, 11:32:20 am
Post by: Core on January 26, 2004, 12:24:04 pm
Post by: Azel on January 26, 2004, 01:36:15 pm
so yeah Alec, Go for it
Core:
I try to stay away from too many nacelle ships...but I guess I could give it a try
Post by: atheorhaven on January 26, 2004, 07:19:42 pm
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I'd like to see a variant of this beast
so yeah Alec, Go for it
Core:
I try to stay away from too many nacelle ships...but I guess I could give it a try
What I was thinking of was simple really.. and it'd still look exactly the same on a side profile. Simply put just add the second nacelle like that one Remora variant..
Nacelle1 ->[']|[']<- Nacelle2
||| <- Pylon
/''''''\ <- Hull
You just double up the single nacelle is all, and it won't substantially change the look at all. And that'd bring the speed of the ship up, plus add some other benefits like a more even warp field with less work, less screaming from the purists, more efficient drive system, faster accumulation of Starfleet Dilthium Fuel Points for getting the captain free munchies and pop for a crew of 150, and added durability on the warp system because you can run it less hard. All in all a good time would be had by all..
Post by: Azel on January 27, 2004, 03:46:48 pm
And Mackie gave me some lightmaps for her Today...And did these AWESOME PICS!!!
I am expecting some Renders from another master...SteelViper
Thanks MACKIE!!!!
Post by: Core on January 28, 2004, 11:12:59 am
Post by: InterMech on January 29, 2004, 04:40:11 am
"Atolm! Atolm! Atolm!" [the crowd goes wild!]
Post by: starforce2 on January 29, 2004, 07:06:35 am
Post by: Core on January 29, 2004, 11:27:31 am
if alredy its demon crap
becose nothing this sinister can be holy
Post by: Azel on January 29, 2004, 01:55:16 pm
That's tame compared to what I have drawn for that particular topic
Post by: Kaenyne on January 29, 2004, 02:10:50 pm
When she's done, ya gotta put her up for download!
Post by: Azel on January 29, 2004, 02:22:32 pm
I'll post the link tonight
I just thought that no one wanted her...So I didn't earlier
Post by: Tus on February 03, 2004, 10:53:26 pm
the rest will be links for 56k peps
please excuse the bright pics(she is alot darker than these renders care to show), i didn't feel like changing the brightness when i did my render
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-front.jpg
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-left.jpg
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-top.jpg
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-p1.jpg
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-p2.jpg
http://home.ec.rr.com/theops/alseides-p3.jpg
enjoy
Tus
Post by: atheorhaven on February 04, 2004, 03:20:54 am
Have picked the components and am starting tomorrow on it..
Post by: Azel on February 04, 2004, 11:58:12 am
I salute you
And Thanks!!!
Post by: atheorhaven on February 04, 2004, 03:22:02 pm
This is a ways from being released because there's color matching, texture rebuilding and some tweaks to the mesh yet.. but thought that you'd like to see this.. (Day 1).
Nicely shows that the torpedos would miss the nacelle supports in the back (just) plus how some of the other shots line up..
Not too bad a start..
Post by: Tus on February 04, 2004, 03:34:01 pm
wish i was on that end of the spectrum for textures ok and for the other part of the post, i got bored.... really bored you could say
thats 18 torps though 1 is hidden as it flys of in the lower right hand corner
Tus
Post by: Azel on February 04, 2004, 03:38:19 pm
But you need to use a Connie secondary hull and Miranda torp bays for the wings and belly
Tus,
THAT IS CRAZY!!!!
lol
So Cool!!!
I would hate to me on the other end lol
Post by: atheorhaven on February 06, 2004, 12:58:24 pm
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Alec That's awesome!!!
But you need to use a Connie secondary hull and Miranda torp bays for the wings and belly
You mean more like this? (grin)
And a new front shot showing the current changes:
Ans some other pretties..
So this is (I think) complete for meshing.. but I have to scare up some permissions and do some more texture work before release yet.
But I'm also planning on releasing this one differently. Because it's so pretty, I'm going to put the textures in a seperate internal archive, with the *stock* textures for the parts in the main part. And the seperate internal archive is going to be set up that you have to agree not to port those textures out of SFC. This is how I'm also going to be releasing any new ships of Mackie's. Getting kind of tired seeing work migrating to BC without appropriate credit or notification being given, so with the *stock* textures being included, there'll be no reason for any port to use my (or SFC released) textures. They can replace them with appropriate textures from other ports, or create them. Or quite simply, they can ask to use the custom texture pack.
And what's so cool about this texture pack? Well, one of my experiments sort of paid off.. I now have semi-dynamic lighting in the arboritum. When light shines in there, the ceiling, floor, and walls look like they normally do. As the light in there gets dimmer though, the stars come out on the ceiling, the spotlights turn on on the floor, and the walls light around the doors and kind of a twilighty thing happens on the wall. Looks kind of neat, even in Model Viewer.
Looks something like this:
Did this a good while back on the rextexture additions I did on WZ-DTW-Hig's FCA, and I'm incorporating it into the Alseides as kind of a pre-release for WZ-DTW-Hig's FCA. Just have to go talk to WZ about permission to release both of these.. and they'll be downloading onto a computer near you soon after.
Took this long because I was waiting on some glows to come back.. but they haven't after several months, so I'm releasing my own with it.Again, for anyone planning to port this out of SFC...you are *not* to use the custom texture pack without permission from me, or the other original authors. I've included stock base textures in the main archive to show you which textures I used in this kitbash, and which ones you need to beef up, rebuild, or replace with ones of your own.
Post by: Chrystoff on February 06, 2004, 01:14:01 pm
Post by: Azel on February 06, 2004, 02:21:11 pm
But you have to change the neck back to your first attempt
That neck was more accurate
Thanks again man
Post by: Azel on February 10, 2004, 09:06:59 am
Post by: atheorhaven on February 10, 2004, 01:14:47 pm
Other than that though.. how is it looking for you? Do you like the rest of what I've done with the ship?
Post by: atheorhaven on February 10, 2004, 03:13:30 pm
Post by: Azel on February 10, 2004, 06:13:29 pm
Post by: Rogue NineCH on February 10, 2004, 06:19:07 pm
Post by: atheorhaven on February 11, 2004, 01:25:51 am
Post by: atheorhaven on February 12, 2004, 03:34:26 pm
This is going to be another big file for Atolm, slightly smaller for general release.