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Title: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 28, 2004, 03:02:11 pm

Is there a list of ships and what hull types they use? I am thinking of moving out of my favorite ship, the K'vort because its way underpowered to take on the AI with the new higher powered weapons. Before a CA was an easy target but now a CA will rip me to shreds, even from a distance. I know its partially my playing style as I have not gotten used to the new combat style but still, it seems that the K'vort has trouble standing up to a lot of things on its own.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Magnum357 on January 28, 2004, 03:28:55 pm

K'vorts are not great vessels to use unless you are in a squadron for cover support.  You are right that K'vorts are a tad underpowered and need too use cloaks more often (If they can).  I highly recommend using other hulls like D5/D6D7's as their hulls are more balance on systems and they have great firing arcs in most directions.  People who play GAW make a mistake that you should "Close and Hose" the enemy with Klingons, this is an unwise tactic in GAW.  GAW Klingons are suppose too used at Medium range and wear down the enemy mostly with disruptors.  You can still close in and try hitting with Alpha Strikes at point blank range, but timing is everything.  Also, don't be affraid of targeting subsystems with your weapoins.  If you see a Rom with a Heavy Plasma and one of his sheilds are down, consider sniping at a distance at that system or hit his warp core.  Klingons have an advantage here with their fast firing dizzies and most GAW Warp cores are not designed too take a lot of hits.  If you even partially damage their Warp Core, their is a good chance that he will have less power too run certain systems.

Like I said before, don't be affraid of the old D5/6/7, they are still very useful hulls.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 28, 2004, 04:10:04 pm

problem with those hulls is they dont suit my style of play. I figured that Ishould stay out at range, thats what I did before GaW. I think to be a bit more effective I need a wingman or two in a K'vort as well. I did manage to bring down a AI controled CA today so many I am getting my groove back.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Scrag on January 28, 2004, 04:23:48 pm

Take a look at the MIrak CL.  So far the Mirak ships are the ones we seem to be flying the bulk of the time.  Remember to warp snipe the bigger AI's with polarons, you can't stand toe to toe and expect your hull to survive long.  And remember you have no cloak to help disengage if you are over your head.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: NannerSlug on January 28, 2004, 09:44:58 pm

anyone remember how to saber dance? mags, you are right.

thanks

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: feargusf on January 29, 2004, 05:23:58 pm

<waves hand in air>

Oooh! Oooh! I know this one!

That's where you stay out of point blank range (say out at ~range 20) and shoot your dizzies at an oblique angle, maybe 20 degrees off of center. For SFC3 purposes, you can pretty much ashcan the oblique part (since your forward shield arcs ar larger and AV reduces chance to hit) for an all-primaries alpha then turn tail while your dizzies recharge and come about to close for another. It worked well against the AIs on the Fun server, not sure about PvP with it, though. Perhaps I'll fly Klingon next time around.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: NannerSlug on January 29, 2004, 06:12:08 pm

Shiplist:

Feds
-----------

Frigate          Davids
Frigate   Saladin
Frigate          Oberth
Frigate      Freedom
Frigate      Saber
Frigate      Aquino
Destroyer   Akula
Destroyer   Akula Refit
Destroyer   Centaur
Destroyer   Norway
Destroyer   Nova
LightCruiser   Dorsetshire
LightCruiser   Durrett
LightCruiser   Miranda
LightCruiser   Chandley
LightCruiser   New Orleans
LightCruiser   Challenger
LightCruiser   Springfield
LightCruiser   Cheyenne
LightCruiser   Defiant
LightCruiser   Steamrunner
LightCruiser   Intrepid
LightCruiser   Bass Master Advanced Light Cruiser
Cruiser          Constitution
Cruiser      Constitution Refit
Cruiser      Belknap
Cruiser   Prince of Wales
Cruiser        Constellation
Cruiser    Niagara
Cruiser    Akira
Cruiser      Prometheus
Battlecruiser   Excelsior
Battlecruiser   Bismark
Battlecruiser   New Jersey
Battlecruiser   Lakota
Battlecruiser   Chabot
Battlecruiser   Ambassador
Battlecruiser   Nebula
Dreadnaught   Federation
Dreadnaught   Odysseuss
Dreadnaught   Galaxy
Dreadnaught   Sovereign
Battleship   Armada
Frigate    Hunter
Destroyer   Knight
LightCruiser   Apache
Cruiser      Lord Bishop
Dreadnaught   Paladin

Klingons
-----------

Frigate   K-6
Frigate   Bird of Prey
Frigate   K-23
Destroyer   K-26 N'Goth
Frigate   K-30
Destroyer   K'Vort
Destroyer   D-3
Destroyer   D-4
Destroyer   D-16
Destroyer   D-17
LightCruiser   L-9
LightCruiser   D-5
LightCruiser   D-6
LightCruiser   D-21
Cruiser   D-38 Hegh'DaS
Cruiser   D-7
Cruiser   D-7L
Cruiser   K'Tinga
Cruiser   D-7W
Cruiser   D-10
Cruiser   D-32 Stronger Bird
Cruiser   D24
Cruiser   Fek'lhr
Cruiser   D-50 K'vek
Battlecruiser   C-6
Battlecruiser   C-7
Battlecruiser   C-16
Battlecruiser   Vor'cha
Battlecruiser   C-28
Dreadnaught   C-5 SuvwI'QeH
Dreadnaught   C-9
Dreadnaught   C-19
Dreadnaught   Negh'var
Dreadnaught   C-25L Volkoth
Dreadnaught   L-24
Battleship   B-11k
Battleship   B-22 Bird of Death
Frigate   Mirak Frigate
Destroyer   Mirak Destroyer
LightCruiser   Mirak Light Cruiser
Cruiser   Mirak Heavy Cruiser
Battlecruiser   Mirak Battlecruiser
Dreadnaught   Mirak Dreadnaught

Romulan
-----------

Frigate   Snipe
Frigate   Romulan Bird of Prey
Frigate   Caracara
Frigate   Talon
Frigate   V'Dan
Destroyer   Battle Hawk
Destroyer   Bright One
Destroyer   Kestrel
Destroyer   Falcon
Destroyer   Thrush
LightCruiser   Gallant Wing
LightCruiser   Whitewind
LightCruiser   Sparrow Hawk
LightCruiser   Sparrow Hawk J
LightCruiser   Wren
LightCruiser   Heron
LightCruiser   Shrike
LightCruiser   Nierrh
Cruiser   War Eagle
Cruiser   King Eagle
Cruiser   Type K Hull
Cruiser   Type K Hull Refit
Cruiser   Winged Defender
Cruiser   Firehawk
Cruiser   Griffin
Cruiser   Osprey
Cruiser   Sea Hawk
Cruiser   Hawk
Cruiser   Raven
Battlecruiser   Killer Hawk
Battlecruiser   Type K Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Phoenix
Battlecruiser   Predator
Battlecruiser   Raptor
Battlecruiser   Reman Battlecruiser
Dreadnaught   King Vulture
Dreadnaught   Z-1 Nova
Dreadnaught   Condor
Dreadnaught   Warbird
Dreadnaught   Valdore
Battleship   King Condor
Battleship   Scimitar

Dominion Axis
-----------

Frigate   Netel
Frigate   Cheetah
Frigate   Viper
Frigate   ISC Frigate
Frigate   Breen Frigate
Frigate   Hideki
Frigate   Sartan
Destroyer   Jem'Hadar Fighter
Destroyer   Breen Destroyer
Destroyer   ISC Destroyer
Destroyer   Legate
Destroyer   Vasad
Destroyer   Kimal
Destroyer   Leopard
Destroyer   Reptilicon
LightCruiser   ISC Medium Cruiser
LightCruiser   Breen Light Cruiser
LightCruiser   Lakat
LightCruiser   Rasilak
Cruiser   ISC Heavy Cruiser
Cruiser   Tiger
Cruiser   Veracidor
Cruiser   King Cobra
Cruiser   Breen Heavy Cruiser
Cruiser   Galor
Cruiser   Janissary
Cruiser   Jem'Hadar Cruiser
Battlecruiser   Kulinor
Battlecruiser   Dragon
Battlecruiser   Breen Heavy Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Brinok
Dreadnaught   Keldon
Dreadnaught   Lion
Dreadnaught   ISC Dreadnaught
Dreadnaught   Komodo Dragon
Dreadnaught   Breen Dreadnaught
Battleship   Jem'Hadar Battleship


 

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 30, 2004, 03:28:57 am

Thanks Nanner. Just what I needed. I needed to know what was what and what class it was in. my in game 'ships computer' does not work to well on telling me hehe.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Sirgod on January 30, 2004, 11:35:45 am

Don't forget to look at the shiplist Library EE, I find this helps me alot when Configuring the Various Vessels.

Mass Is a very important thing to look at IMHO with GAW.

Stephen

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Toten on January 31, 2004, 06:27:04 pm

EE,

To see what ships are good I would suggest you start the game in single player skirmish mode then "buy" a ship and check it out in the refit screen.

Make notes of the shields, weapons, hull and engine spaces available.

Also note the locations, arcs and numbers of primary and heavy weapons for a ship.  In general its a case of more is more, heheheh.  

Title: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 28, 2004, 03:02:11 pm

Is there a list of ships and what hull types they use? I am thinking of moving out of my favorite ship, the K'vort because its way underpowered to take on the AI with the new higher powered weapons. Before a CA was an easy target but now a CA will rip me to shreds, even from a distance. I know its partially my playing style as I have not gotten used to the new combat style but still, it seems that the K'vort has trouble standing up to a lot of things on its own.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Magnum357 on January 28, 2004, 03:28:55 pm

K'vorts are not great vessels to use unless you are in a squadron for cover support.  You are right that K'vorts are a tad underpowered and need too use cloaks more often (If they can).  I highly recommend using other hulls like D5/D6D7's as their hulls are more balance on systems and they have great firing arcs in most directions.  People who play GAW make a mistake that you should "Close and Hose" the enemy with Klingons, this is an unwise tactic in GAW.  GAW Klingons are suppose too used at Medium range and wear down the enemy mostly with disruptors.  You can still close in and try hitting with Alpha Strikes at point blank range, but timing is everything.  Also, don't be affraid of targeting subsystems with your weapoins.  If you see a Rom with a Heavy Plasma and one of his sheilds are down, consider sniping at a distance at that system or hit his warp core.  Klingons have an advantage here with their fast firing dizzies and most GAW Warp cores are not designed too take a lot of hits.  If you even partially damage their Warp Core, their is a good chance that he will have less power too run certain systems.

Like I said before, don't be affraid of the old D5/6/7, they are still very useful hulls.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 28, 2004, 04:10:04 pm

problem with those hulls is they dont suit my style of play. I figured that Ishould stay out at range, thats what I did before GaW. I think to be a bit more effective I need a wingman or two in a K'vort as well. I did manage to bring down a AI controled CA today so many I am getting my groove back.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Scrag on January 28, 2004, 04:23:48 pm

Take a look at the MIrak CL.  So far the Mirak ships are the ones we seem to be flying the bulk of the time.  Remember to warp snipe the bigger AI's with polarons, you can't stand toe to toe and expect your hull to survive long.  And remember you have no cloak to help disengage if you are over your head.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: NannerSlug on January 28, 2004, 09:44:58 pm

anyone remember how to saber dance? mags, you are right.

thanks

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: feargusf on January 29, 2004, 05:23:58 pm

<waves hand in air>

Oooh! Oooh! I know this one!

That's where you stay out of point blank range (say out at ~range 20) and shoot your dizzies at an oblique angle, maybe 20 degrees off of center. For SFC3 purposes, you can pretty much ashcan the oblique part (since your forward shield arcs ar larger and AV reduces chance to hit) for an all-primaries alpha then turn tail while your dizzies recharge and come about to close for another. It worked well against the AIs on the Fun server, not sure about PvP with it, though. Perhaps I'll fly Klingon next time around.  

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: NannerSlug on January 29, 2004, 06:12:08 pm

Shiplist:

Feds
-----------

Frigate          Davids
Frigate   Saladin
Frigate          Oberth
Frigate      Freedom
Frigate      Saber
Frigate      Aquino
Destroyer   Akula
Destroyer   Akula Refit
Destroyer   Centaur
Destroyer   Norway
Destroyer   Nova
LightCruiser   Dorsetshire
LightCruiser   Durrett
LightCruiser   Miranda
LightCruiser   Chandley
LightCruiser   New Orleans
LightCruiser   Challenger
LightCruiser   Springfield
LightCruiser   Cheyenne
LightCruiser   Defiant
LightCruiser   Steamrunner
LightCruiser   Intrepid
LightCruiser   Bass Master Advanced Light Cruiser
Cruiser          Constitution
Cruiser      Constitution Refit
Cruiser      Belknap
Cruiser   Prince of Wales
Cruiser        Constellation
Cruiser    Niagara
Cruiser    Akira
Cruiser      Prometheus
Battlecruiser   Excelsior
Battlecruiser   Bismark
Battlecruiser   New Jersey
Battlecruiser   Lakota
Battlecruiser   Chabot
Battlecruiser   Ambassador
Battlecruiser   Nebula
Dreadnaught   Federation
Dreadnaught   Odysseuss
Dreadnaught   Galaxy
Dreadnaught   Sovereign
Battleship   Armada
Frigate    Hunter
Destroyer   Knight
LightCruiser   Apache
Cruiser      Lord Bishop
Dreadnaught   Paladin

Klingons
-----------

Frigate   K-6
Frigate   Bird of Prey
Frigate   K-23
Destroyer   K-26 N'Goth
Frigate   K-30
Destroyer   K'Vort
Destroyer   D-3
Destroyer   D-4
Destroyer   D-16
Destroyer   D-17
LightCruiser   L-9
LightCruiser   D-5
LightCruiser   D-6
LightCruiser   D-21
Cruiser   D-38 Hegh'DaS
Cruiser   D-7
Cruiser   D-7L
Cruiser   K'Tinga
Cruiser   D-7W
Cruiser   D-10
Cruiser   D-32 Stronger Bird
Cruiser   D24
Cruiser   Fek'lhr
Cruiser   D-50 K'vek
Battlecruiser   C-6
Battlecruiser   C-7
Battlecruiser   C-16
Battlecruiser   Vor'cha
Battlecruiser   C-28
Dreadnaught   C-5 SuvwI'QeH
Dreadnaught   C-9
Dreadnaught   C-19
Dreadnaught   Negh'var
Dreadnaught   C-25L Volkoth
Dreadnaught   L-24
Battleship   B-11k
Battleship   B-22 Bird of Death
Frigate   Mirak Frigate
Destroyer   Mirak Destroyer
LightCruiser   Mirak Light Cruiser
Cruiser   Mirak Heavy Cruiser
Battlecruiser   Mirak Battlecruiser
Dreadnaught   Mirak Dreadnaught

Romulan
-----------

Frigate   Snipe
Frigate   Romulan Bird of Prey
Frigate   Caracara
Frigate   Talon
Frigate   V'Dan
Destroyer   Battle Hawk
Destroyer   Bright One
Destroyer   Kestrel
Destroyer   Falcon
Destroyer   Thrush
LightCruiser   Gallant Wing
LightCruiser   Whitewind
LightCruiser   Sparrow Hawk
LightCruiser   Sparrow Hawk J
LightCruiser   Wren
LightCruiser   Heron
LightCruiser   Shrike
LightCruiser   Nierrh
Cruiser   War Eagle
Cruiser   King Eagle
Cruiser   Type K Hull
Cruiser   Type K Hull Refit
Cruiser   Winged Defender
Cruiser   Firehawk
Cruiser   Griffin
Cruiser   Osprey
Cruiser   Sea Hawk
Cruiser   Hawk
Cruiser   Raven
Battlecruiser   Killer Hawk
Battlecruiser   Type K Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Phoenix
Battlecruiser   Predator
Battlecruiser   Raptor
Battlecruiser   Reman Battlecruiser
Dreadnaught   King Vulture
Dreadnaught   Z-1 Nova
Dreadnaught   Condor
Dreadnaught   Warbird
Dreadnaught   Valdore
Battleship   King Condor
Battleship   Scimitar

Dominion Axis
-----------

Frigate   Netel
Frigate   Cheetah
Frigate   Viper
Frigate   ISC Frigate
Frigate   Breen Frigate
Frigate   Hideki
Frigate   Sartan
Destroyer   Jem'Hadar Fighter
Destroyer   Breen Destroyer
Destroyer   ISC Destroyer
Destroyer   Legate
Destroyer   Vasad
Destroyer   Kimal
Destroyer   Leopard
Destroyer   Reptilicon
LightCruiser   ISC Medium Cruiser
LightCruiser   Breen Light Cruiser
LightCruiser   Lakat
LightCruiser   Rasilak
Cruiser   ISC Heavy Cruiser
Cruiser   Tiger
Cruiser   Veracidor
Cruiser   King Cobra
Cruiser   Breen Heavy Cruiser
Cruiser   Galor
Cruiser   Janissary
Cruiser   Jem'Hadar Cruiser
Battlecruiser   Kulinor
Battlecruiser   Dragon
Battlecruiser   Breen Heavy Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser   Brinok
Dreadnaught   Keldon
Dreadnaught   Lion
Dreadnaught   ISC Dreadnaught
Dreadnaught   Komodo Dragon
Dreadnaught   Breen Dreadnaught
Battleship   Jem'Hadar Battleship


 

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: EE on January 30, 2004, 03:28:57 am

Thanks Nanner. Just what I needed. I needed to know what was what and what class it was in. my in game 'ships computer' does not work to well on telling me hehe.

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Sirgod on January 30, 2004, 11:35:45 am

Don't forget to look at the shiplist Library EE, I find this helps me alot when Configuring the Various Vessels.

Mass Is a very important thing to look at IMHO with GAW.

Stephen

Title: Re: Generations at War - Ship list?
Post by: Toten on January 31, 2004, 06:27:04 pm

EE,

To see what ships are good I would suggest you start the game in single player skirmish mode then "buy" a ship and check it out in the refit screen.

Make notes of the shields, weapons, hull and engine spaces available.

Also note the locations, arcs and numbers of primary and heavy weapons for a ship.  In general its a case of more is more, heheheh.