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Title: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Javora on February 12, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Just finished reading this story at Warp2Search.net, Neowin.net, and a couple of other places on the net.  Basically what is being said is that someone got a hold of the source code to Win2000/NT4 and released them to the Internet.  What impact this will have to companies (including Micro$oft) has yet to be determined.  The story to my knowledge is still being confirmed but has been reported on a number of tech sites.  If I hear any more about this I will port it here.  Anyone care to guess what ol' Billy Bob is doing right now??!?  
 
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Sirgod on February 12, 2004, 05:20:33 pm
What worries me, Is If the wrong hands get to It, and exploit even more Vulnerabilities. I really really hope your wrong about this one Javora.

Stephen
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Toasty0 on February 12, 2004, 06:00:40 pm
Arrrrhhhhggggg...talk about a popup site?!  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:30:13 pm
That's one way to get everyone to switch to WinXP right away.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:33:40 pm
I don't think switching to XP would help, considering it's built on the bones of 2K  AS a side not, I just went back to 2K...far more stable than XP when you run a ridiculous overclock...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:38:32 pm
I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:43:14 pm
Quote:

I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  



Heh. I guess someone would probably claim it's one of Bill's devious plots...2K was actually one of Microsoft's better offerings over the last few years. XP isn't too bad (at least, the Pro version isn't), but it does have some absolutely brainless 'features' in it...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 12, 2004, 07:21:41 pm
If the source code has actually been leaked, everything has changed. This could ruin Microsoft, their only defense against worms exploiting security holes is that it's not easy to analyse a binary for them.
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on February 12, 2004, 08:18:34 pm
Microsoft is about to learn that "security by obscurity" fails badly once obscurity is pierced.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 13, 2004, 03:38:20 pm
Well, it's confirmed. MS aren't saying much and I don't blame them.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.asp

From what I've heard it's not the full source, but it is about 14 million lines of it. Better keep your virus protection up to date and get a decent firewall if you haven't got one already.  
Title: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Javora on February 12, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Just finished reading this story at Warp2Search.net, Neowin.net, and a couple of other places on the net.  Basically what is being said is that someone got a hold of the source code to Win2000/NT4 and released them to the Internet.  What impact this will have to companies (including Micro$oft) has yet to be determined.  The story to my knowledge is still being confirmed but has been reported on a number of tech sites.  If I hear any more about this I will port it here.  Anyone care to guess what ol' Billy Bob is doing right now??!?  
 
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Sirgod on February 12, 2004, 05:20:33 pm
What worries me, Is If the wrong hands get to It, and exploit even more Vulnerabilities. I really really hope your wrong about this one Javora.

Stephen
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Toasty0 on February 12, 2004, 06:00:40 pm
Arrrrhhhhggggg...talk about a popup site?!  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:30:13 pm
That's one way to get everyone to switch to WinXP right away.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:33:40 pm
I don't think switching to XP would help, considering it's built on the bones of 2K  AS a side not, I just went back to 2K...far more stable than XP when you run a ridiculous overclock...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:38:32 pm
I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:43:14 pm
Quote:

I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  



Heh. I guess someone would probably claim it's one of Bill's devious plots...2K was actually one of Microsoft's better offerings over the last few years. XP isn't too bad (at least, the Pro version isn't), but it does have some absolutely brainless 'features' in it...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 12, 2004, 07:21:41 pm
If the source code has actually been leaked, everything has changed. This could ruin Microsoft, their only defense against worms exploiting security holes is that it's not easy to analyse a binary for them.
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on February 12, 2004, 08:18:34 pm
Microsoft is about to learn that "security by obscurity" fails badly once obscurity is pierced.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 13, 2004, 03:38:20 pm
Well, it's confirmed. MS aren't saying much and I don't blame them.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.asp

From what I've heard it's not the full source, but it is about 14 million lines of it. Better keep your virus protection up to date and get a decent firewall if you haven't got one already.  
Title: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Javora on February 12, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Just finished reading this story at Warp2Search.net, Neowin.net, and a couple of other places on the net.  Basically what is being said is that someone got a hold of the source code to Win2000/NT4 and released them to the Internet.  What impact this will have to companies (including Micro$oft) has yet to be determined.  The story to my knowledge is still being confirmed but has been reported on a number of tech sites.  If I hear any more about this I will port it here.  Anyone care to guess what ol' Billy Bob is doing right now??!?  
 
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Sirgod on February 12, 2004, 05:20:33 pm
What worries me, Is If the wrong hands get to It, and exploit even more Vulnerabilities. I really really hope your wrong about this one Javora.

Stephen
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Toasty0 on February 12, 2004, 06:00:40 pm
Arrrrhhhhggggg...talk about a popup site?!  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:30:13 pm
That's one way to get everyone to switch to WinXP right away.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:33:40 pm
I don't think switching to XP would help, considering it's built on the bones of 2K  AS a side not, I just went back to 2K...far more stable than XP when you run a ridiculous overclock...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: EmeraldEdge on February 12, 2004, 06:38:32 pm
I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: James_Smith on February 12, 2004, 06:43:14 pm
Quote:

I suppose that's the case, I kind of forgot about the where XP was developed from (I'm still running 2k myself).  Then perhaps it's a ploy to get everyone to switch to Bill's next offering? lol.  I'm so used to everyone jumping on stuff and saying it's all evil Bill Gates fault, and an underhanded ploy for money, I figured I'd just make the first post of that assumption.  



Heh. I guess someone would probably claim it's one of Bill's devious plots...2K was actually one of Microsoft's better offerings over the last few years. XP isn't too bad (at least, the Pro version isn't), but it does have some absolutely brainless 'features' in it...
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 12, 2004, 07:21:41 pm
If the source code has actually been leaked, everything has changed. This could ruin Microsoft, their only defense against worms exploiting security holes is that it's not easy to analyse a binary for them.
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on February 12, 2004, 08:18:34 pm
Microsoft is about to learn that "security by obscurity" fails badly once obscurity is pierced.  
Title: Re: Source Code for Win2000/NT4 *may* have leaked to the Internet
Post by: Demandred on February 13, 2004, 03:38:20 pm
Well, it's confirmed. MS aren't saying much and I don't blame them.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.asp

From what I've heard it's not the full source, but it is about 14 million lines of it. Better keep your virus protection up to date and get a decent firewall if you haven't got one already.