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Title: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 24, 2004, 09:37:11 pm

Title pretty much says it all.  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Corbomite on February 24, 2004, 09:46:05 pm

Nothing really changed in that area. Holding costs were lowered for several weapons however.

Plasma S now holds for 2 points and G's for 1 point (normal strength). Envelopers still cost the same.

Hellbores now hold for 2.5 points and charge for the same (2.5).

I do have X weapon charts that are correct - the manual is not right - if you want them.

Also for a detailed list of all the changes, check the Read Me file in your SFC folder.

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 24, 2004, 09:57:36 pm

What would really be a help would be a list similar to what David Ferrell posted for the SFC3 weapons.  I have nothing but the info that came with the game.

I would like any charts you have.  Thanks.  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: David Ferrell on February 24, 2004, 10:35:15 pm

Sorry Heavens_Eagle, I will get those for you, not tonight,
but soon.  Keep reminding me and I will get them.

Thanks,

Dave

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Corbomite on February 24, 2004, 10:36:28 pm

Here are the charts. X-Phasers on Overload do 1.5 listed damage of a regular PH-1. Plasma Snares were loading in 1.5 turns before instead of 3 and to be honest I haven't gotten around to checking if they ever fixed that. People seemed to like it though and it may not have been addressed. Everything else in the manual is correct to the best of my knowledge.



Ph-G2

Range: 0 1 2 3 4-8 9-15 16-30 31-50
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--3---2-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 3--3---2-----1-----0
-------4 4 4 3--2---2-----1-----0
-------3 3 3 2--1---1-----0-----0



Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0







Here is a revised damage chart for the Plasma X. The OP manual is not correct. There was some variance on damage at the bracket ends, but I would chalk that up to the model and the placement of the Plasma launchers on the ship (what I mean by this is that I would fire two different Plasma X's from the same range and get two different damage values, but it was not consistant). As you can see the range breaks are a little different as Plasma X degrades faster.


Range:

0 to 8.25 = 40 damage

8.26 to 12.15 = 29 damage

12.16 to 16.15 = 20 damage

16.16 to 20.15 = 13 damage

20.16 to 23.30 = 6 damage

23.31 to 24.10 = 1 damage





Here is a revised damage chart for the Plasma Snare. The OP manual is not correct. I used Taldren's basic range bracket styles, but most people know to stop at .99 of a range to get the true damage inflicted, i.e. range 10 is really 9.99. There was some variance on damage at the bracket ends, but I would chalk that up to the model and the placement of the Plasma launchers on the ship (what I mean by this is that I would fire two different Plasma E's from the same range and get two different damage values, but it was not consistant).

Range:

0 to 10 = 20 damage

11 to 15 = 14 damage

16 to 20 = 10 damage

21 to 23 = 6 damage

24 = 3 damage

25 = 1 damage  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 25, 2004, 11:04:25 pm

Thanks Corbomite.  I will be looking forward to getting the rest of those from you Dave.  If by Sunday or Monday would be nice.  This helps me a lot with some info I am trying to get gathered together.    

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Rod O'neal on February 26, 2004, 12:10:45 am

Man, this has really got my curiousity peaked! (...what could he possibly be up too?)    

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Strafer on February 26, 2004, 01:47:43 am

I believe I know, but I won't spoil the surprise on this one...

Title: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 24, 2004, 09:37:11 pm

Title pretty much says it all.  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Corbomite on February 24, 2004, 09:46:05 pm

Nothing really changed in that area. Holding costs were lowered for several weapons however.

Plasma S now holds for 2 points and G's for 1 point (normal strength). Envelopers still cost the same.

Hellbores now hold for 2.5 points and charge for the same (2.5).

I do have X weapon charts that are correct - the manual is not right - if you want them.

Also for a detailed list of all the changes, check the Read Me file in your SFC folder.

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 24, 2004, 09:57:36 pm

What would really be a help would be a list similar to what David Ferrell posted for the SFC3 weapons.  I have nothing but the info that came with the game.

I would like any charts you have.  Thanks.  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: David Ferrell on February 24, 2004, 10:35:15 pm

Sorry Heavens_Eagle, I will get those for you, not tonight,
but soon.  Keep reminding me and I will get them.

Thanks,

Dave

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Corbomite on February 24, 2004, 10:36:28 pm

Here are the charts. X-Phasers on Overload do 1.5 listed damage of a regular PH-1. Plasma Snares were loading in 1.5 turns before instead of 3 and to be honest I haven't gotten around to checking if they ever fixed that. People seemed to like it though and it may not have been addressed. Everything else in the manual is correct to the best of my knowledge.



Ph-G2

Range: 0 1 2 3 4-8 9-15 16-30 31-50
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--3---2-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 3--3---2-----1-----0
-------4 4 4 3--2---2-----1-----0
-------3 3 3 2--1---1-----0-----0



Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0







Here is a revised damage chart for the Plasma X. The OP manual is not correct. There was some variance on damage at the bracket ends, but I would chalk that up to the model and the placement of the Plasma launchers on the ship (what I mean by this is that I would fire two different Plasma X's from the same range and get two different damage values, but it was not consistant). As you can see the range breaks are a little different as Plasma X degrades faster.


Range:

0 to 8.25 = 40 damage

8.26 to 12.15 = 29 damage

12.16 to 16.15 = 20 damage

16.16 to 20.15 = 13 damage

20.16 to 23.30 = 6 damage

23.31 to 24.10 = 1 damage





Here is a revised damage chart for the Plasma Snare. The OP manual is not correct. I used Taldren's basic range bracket styles, but most people know to stop at .99 of a range to get the true damage inflicted, i.e. range 10 is really 9.99. There was some variance on damage at the bracket ends, but I would chalk that up to the model and the placement of the Plasma launchers on the ship (what I mean by this is that I would fire two different Plasma E's from the same range and get two different damage values, but it was not consistant).

Range:

0 to 10 = 20 damage

11 to 15 = 14 damage

16 to 20 = 10 damage

21 to 23 = 6 damage

24 = 3 damage

25 = 1 damage  

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on February 25, 2004, 11:04:25 pm

Thanks Corbomite.  I will be looking forward to getting the rest of those from you Dave.  If by Sunday or Monday would be nice.  This helps me a lot with some info I am trying to get gathered together.    

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Rod O'neal on February 26, 2004, 12:10:45 am

Man, this has really got my curiousity peaked! (...what could he possibly be up too?)    

Title: Re: Does anyone have the Weapon Range/Damage charts from the last OP patch?
Post by: Strafer on February 26, 2004, 01:47:43 am

I believe I know, but I won't spoil the surprise on this one...