Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 12, 2004, 06:46:25 pm
I am not a modder. However, I recently made the Vger Cloud mod for SFC1. I got the Vger Cloud image from here and converted the jpg file to a bmp file via Microsoft Internet Explorer. I then used PhotoFinish to crop the image so that only the circular cloud was present. PhotoFinish by Zsoft came bundled with my flatbed scanner circa 1992. I then used it to changed the bmp file from 24 bit color to 256 color and saved it as a pcx file with the same horizontal and vertical dimensions as the pcx files for the Jupiter planet mod. Thus giving Jupiter a new skin that looks like Vger. Then I changed the Neutral Sun object CY from "yellowsun" to point to the Jupiter mod folder (subdirectory) because you cannot fly through Jupiter but you can fly through the CY Neutral Star without any damage. I was also thinking about pointing the Large Doomsday Machine mod to the Vger Cloud mod and arming it with a Hellbore weapon for an interesting little FMSE Skirmish mission.
Here are some test shots:
Original CY Neutral Star - Equatorial View
Original CY Neutral Star - North Pole View
CY Neutral Star as Vger Cloud - North Pole View
Approaching Vger Cloud Boundary - Top View
Entering Vger Cloud Boundary - Top View
...Going...
......Going...
.........Gone!
As you can see I am no artist, it was a quick and easy creation. If anyone would like to improve on it or just want to use it in SFC1 I will uploaded it at The Starfleet Universe File and Model Repository .
Here are some more Vger Cloud texture images:
Vger Cloud Image 1
Vger Cloud Image 2
Vger Cloud Image 3
Vger Cloud Image 4
Vger Cloud Image 5
Vger Cloud Image 6
Vger Cloud Image 7
Vger Cloud Image 8
Vger Cloud Image 9
Unfortunately I lack the skill to apply these images to the Jupiter mod. As far as I know the cgi artist named WillDecker is still working on the Vger Ship mod located at the center of the cloud. Perhaps when he is finished he could enlarge my mod and put his mod in the center of it for 2 different versions of Vger. One with the Cloud and one without. Or perhaps WickedZombie45 (or someone else) will enlarge my mod, I have his Klingon Super Battleship it is quite large.
Now here is a little audio visual presentation I put together:
TMP - Klingon Battle MP3
TMP - Total Logic MP3
TMP - The Cloud MP3
TMP - Vejur Flyover MP3
TMP - The Force Field MP3
TMP - Spock Walk MP3
TMP - Inner Workings MP3
TMP - Vejur Speaks MP3
TMP - The Meld MP3
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Picture 27
Hope you enjoyed the show.
Live Long and Prosper,
CyberHank1701
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Post by: ModelsPlease on March 12, 2004, 08:53:45 pm
Post by: Azel on March 12, 2004, 08:56:40 pm
But could you take it one step futher...the whole board be the V'ger Cloud and toy would have to get to the ship(center)
???
Post by: Reverend on March 13, 2004, 03:20:15 am
Any takers? I'd love to battle it myself.....
Post by: Dizzy on March 13, 2004, 04:11:33 am
And reverend, the model for this could be an excellent monster. "Getting lost" in it would be a modeling trick.
You'd need inner compartments, like sectional walls that are also textured. I dont think it'd be too much, but having a criss crossed box type pattern of mesh inside where each wall is textured the same... You would get lost.
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 13, 2004, 05:13:04 am
2 suggestions:
1) Perhaps a time limit.To win you must get to the center of v'ger and within 5 meters of perhaps a little voyager model, hail it and if you don't make it in time,the earth gets destroyed.
OR
2) No time limit,same winning objective BUT everytime you hit a wall,the ship takes damage,like in an ion storm,and since v'ger is a cloud there would be no way to lock weapons on the wall to damage them.You can only use probes to help guide you.If you make it to the center and hail you win.Take too much damage and boom ya loose.And no shuttle launching either the parameters should be the same a being in a nebula.
My $.02
-MP
Post by: Atrahasis on March 13, 2004, 10:14:02 am
Post by: Reverend on March 13, 2004, 01:13:01 pm
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That's a great idea indeed.
2 suggestions:
1) Perhaps a time limit.To win you must get to the center of v'ger and within 5 meters of perhaps a little voyager model, hail it and if you don't make it in time,the earth gets destroyed.
OR
2) No time limit,same winning objective BUT everytime you hit a wall,the ship takes damage,like in an ion storm,and since v'ger is a cloud there would be no way to lock weapons on the wall to damage them.You can only use probes to help guide you.If you make it to the center and hail you win.Take too much damage and boom ya loose.And no shuttle launching either the parameters should be the same a being in a nebula.
My $.02
-MP
Another idea would be to give it a really weak warp drive, but give it a single torpedo launcher.... I could work it (of course it'd interfere with many popular mods) to where tha one torpedo type would be way powerful... launching intermittently... no hailing allowed until you reach the empty space in the middle of the cloud... or just make it to the center alive? Lots of options....
someone cook her up please!!!
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 02:16:12 pm
Here are some pictures of the battle:
Picture 28
Picture 29
Picture 30
Picture 31
Picture 32
As you can see Vger was moving quite fast at 21.0, whereas the top speed of the Doomsday Machine is 8.0 I think.
If anyone would like this FMSE Skirmish Script I will email it to you. I have another FMSE Skirmish Script called "Klingon Attack After Vger Evolves". It takes place at the end of TMP after Vger/Decker merge and evolve into a higher life form. The Enterprise (F-CA+) has to deal with the 3 Klingon K'Tinga Battlecruisers (K-D7K) that Vger released from its holographic computer memory during its evolution, with the help of the New Light Cruiser USS Reliant (F-NCL) and the Improved Dreadnought USS Concordat (F-DNG). The map includes the Sun, Earth, the Moon, (Atra-Hasis'es) Space Office Complex, the Drydock (F-FRD), and some near by asteroids. I can post some pictures of this battle if you like. I have 2 versions of this script, a Federation version where you can fly the Enterprise, Reliant, or Concordat, and a Klingon version where you fly any one of the 3 K'Tinga Battlecruisers.
CyberHank1701
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Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 02:26:58 pm
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Cyberhank, that's a really impressive idea. One thing I have to recommend though is you should sphere-map the blue sphere because the texture seam lines are just too obvious. This is easily done in Max or Uview.
Hi Atra-Hasis,
Well unfortunately, I don't have the skill nor the software.
However, if you are interested I will email you Vger if you want to perform this procedure.
That way it would be easier for everyone to download it from your website than Starfleet Universe's website because Starfleet Universe is not as well organized as yours is. No offense to Starfleet Universe but Atra-Hasis'es website graphically depicts each mod and is easier to navigate when you want to find a particular mod fast, whereas SFU is hit or miss type of search.
CyberHank1701
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Post by: jayvt3 on March 13, 2004, 02:42:22 pm
I actually thougt that you took scenes from TMP and posted them.
I am truly impressed by your work.
Ever think of doing an Epsilon-9??
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 03:06:02 pm
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I just got done looking at your post and dude you are the schiznit!!!
I actually thougt that you took scenes from TMP and posted them.
I am truly impressed by your work.
Ever think of doing an Epsilon-9??
Thank you, but I am really not qualified to create a mod. I just put a new skin on the Jupiter Planet Mod to create Vger. Perhaps one of the artist here will create the Epsilon 9 Station, such as Atra-Hasis or WickedZombie45. At one time I believe Atra-Hasis or P-81 (John Knox) created the Drydock and Travel Pod from TMP available to download. If anyone has these 2 mods for SFC1 would you please email them to me? They are the real artists. I am just lucky enough to have found their works and put them into the game. We all owe them and other artists here much graditude. I have much respect for them and their work, and they ask for nothing in return but credit/recognition for their work. So I should point out that the Klingon K'Tinga Battlecruisers that I used in my pictures above were created for SFC by an artist named NightStorm1 who I believe now goes by the name Raven Night. However, his work is no longer available at his website. It may be available at some other website such as Starfleet Universe though. I don't know why NightStorm1's/Raven Night's work is no longer available at his site. Perhaps someone here will let us know what happened.
CyberHank1701
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Post by: Atrahasis on March 13, 2004, 03:38:21 pm
PS The Maya-class TMP drydock was me, I'll see if I have it somewhere.
Post by: Atrahasis on March 13, 2004, 03:43:31 pm
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So I should point out that the Klingon K'Tinga Battlecruisers that I used in my pictures above were created for SFC by an artist named NightStorm1 who I believe now goes by the name Raven Night.
For the sake of proper accreditation, that Ktinga that we all probably use was Moonraker's baby, many of us adjusted it here and there and created our own versions, I believe all Nightstorm did to it was change the weapons hardpoints. Btw, I'm pretty sure Nightstorm and Raven Night are different people.
Post by: Reverend on March 13, 2004, 04:25:10 pm
Gentlemen, when that is finished, or put into .mod format, would one of you be as so kind as to let me know when and where I can download that? I'd sure love to have it too.... been needing a good moster for awhile... besides the beauties that Atolm makes, and the Amoeba that Terradyne switched over from Armada, I have been in wanting for some time...
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 04:35:17 pm
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So I should point out that the Klingon K'Tinga Battlecruisers that I used in my pictures above were created for SFC by an artist named NightStorm1 who I believe now goes by the name Raven Night.
For the sake of proper accreditation, that Ktinga that we all probably use was Moonraker's baby, many of us adjusted it here and there and created our own versions, I believe all Nightstorm did to it was change the weapons hardpoints. Btw, I'm pretty sure Nightstorm and Raven Night are different people.
Thank you sir.
I stand corrected.CyberHank1701
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Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 04:42:58 pm
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Go ahead and send me the model (mesh and texture in mod format) but only as long as the texture is not so large that it will clog up my hotmail. If the texture is really big-ass then you should send me a miniaturized version of it with the same name, and you can sub in the original large one after I send it back to you.
Mr. Atra,
I sent the mod as a zip file named "vger.zip", it is 355 KB. I hope that is not large. If it is please let me know. It took me 2 minutes to upload it with my 56K modem.
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PS The Maya-class TMP drydock was me, I'll see if I have it somewhere.
Thank you sir.
I greatly appreciate it.CyberHank1701
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Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 13, 2004, 04:56:29 pm
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That is amazing!! I thought you copied the picture from the movie and overlaid it with the graphics from the game! That is in-game! HA!!!
Gentlemen, when that is finished, or put into .mod format, would one of you be as so kind as to let me know when and where I can download that? I'd sure love to have it too.... been needing a good moster for awhile... besides the beauties that Atolm makes, and the Amoeba that Terradyne switched over from Armada, I have been in wanting for some time...
I can email you the Vger Cloud Mod now if you like, while Atra-Hasis is improving it.
CyberHank1701
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Post by: Atrahasis on March 13, 2004, 10:28:11 pm
Post by: Reverend on March 13, 2004, 11:04:17 pm
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Hmmmm what kind of stats to assign it? Just what does it take to kill a cosmic cloud?
everything!!!
please please finish it soon.... I have been slobbering for a true V'ger model since Moses was a kid...
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 14, 2004, 01:27:00 am
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Hmmmm what kind of stats to assign it? Just what does it take to kill a cosmic cloud?
everything!!!
please please finish it soon.... I have been slobbering for a true V'ger model since Moses was a kid...
Reverend,
Atra-Hasis has finished touching up the Vger Cloud Mod. He did an excellent job. He did 2 versions of this mod, one for SFC1 and one for SFC2. I have emailed the file to you and I will post this mod at Starfleet Universe's website. Any and all are welcome to post this mod at their website if they so desire..
Thank you Atra-Hasis,
CyberHank1701
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Post by: Atrahasis on March 14, 2004, 10:13:44 am
Post by: Reverend on March 14, 2004, 11:27:15 am
if you could be as so kind, I'd really love to have that bad boy in SFC2 format, please!
Post by: WillardDcker on March 15, 2004, 10:58:29 am
Makes me wish I could finish making the vessel itself :-)
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 15, 2004, 07:37:30 pm
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Someone finally made the cloud :-)
Makes me wish I could finish making the vessel itself :-)
I had an epiphany and then Atra was kind enough to touch up the texture of the mod. Also he decided to make a SFC2 version of the mod. What is the status of your V'ger vessel? Last time I saw your work in progress of it, it looked good. I believe you finished the mesh/mod and just needed to add the proper textures/skin to it, correct? What is its status? Could you possibly post some pictures of it?
CyberHank1701
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Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 15, 2004, 07:41:41 pm
http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~sfc/files/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=674
The file is named "vger.zip" and it contains both versions (SFC1 and SFC2).
Enjoy,
CyberHank1701
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Post by: Reverend on March 15, 2004, 11:07:55 pm
Is this too heavy of a concept, or can anyone tackle it? Its like having a Connie with no saucer section...
Post by: Dizzy on March 16, 2004, 03:44:57 am
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And reverend, the model for this could be an excellent monster. "Getting lost" in it would be a modeling trick.
You'd need inner compartments, like sectional walls that are also textured. I dont think it'd be too much, but having a criss crossed box type pattern of mesh inside where each wall is textured the same... You would get lost.
Post by: Atrahasis on March 16, 2004, 08:33:50 am
Post by: CyberHank1701 on March 16, 2004, 10:35:45 am
I owe you a case of Romulan Ale or Klingon Blood Wine or Saurian Brandy. I wish I had the skills, knowledge, and software to help you on this Multi-layered V'ger Cloud Mod Project.CyberHank1701
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Post by: Reverend on March 16, 2004, 11:36:15 am
