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Title: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Model Released*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 22, 2004, 02:45:05 pm
FASA Larson Destroyer TOS Era:

Credits:

Please keep the CREDITS.TXT file with the model if you upload elsewhere, otherwise feel free to use or distribute.

Pataflafla, Pneumonic81, Marauth, Lord Schtupp For the various textures and models this ship is made from (Thank you gents) and FASA for the original design.
Kitbashed and Texture Edited into a Larson Destroyer by Wolfsglen,
Additional Registry Modifications, Texture Editing and Mesh Tweaks by Atheorhaven.

 SFC1 Version

 SFCII/OP Version
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash
Post by: Thu11s on March 22, 2004, 02:48:54 pm
Might be cos you've got comma's instead of full stops before the 'jpg' bit.

Nice ship btw

Thu11s  

<EDIT> ok, you got it
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 22, 2004, 02:50:01 pm
lol spot the dufus (me)    
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 22, 2004, 03:04:47 pm
Pics Removed, download it instead  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 22, 2004, 04:28:03 pm
NIce work.  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 22, 2004, 07:34:13 pm
Thank you guys.  

(Pics Removed, Download above)
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 22, 2004, 09:03:53 pm
Other than the font used for the registry, the textures look fantastic...but you might want to try another font  

Nice job on the kitbash though..
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: red_green on March 22, 2004, 10:12:47 pm
I got a nitpick only cause it looks nice. You might want to sample the saucer from Lord Shctupp's textures to match the part you added that the struts are resting on.  Actually I can tell you its red 221 green 221 and blue 225.    Or not modelers preference.  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Marauth on March 23, 2004, 04:36:25 am
2 Minor nitpicks on this Larson, the aft hull should be flat - i.e. perpendicular to the length of the nacelle, rather than pointed like the Kyiv (I changed the name in an update) and you should probably use the centre nacelle from LS's Federation class dreadnought which has the blue grille on the upper side of the nacelle.

Oh you might wanna edit the credits - I never made any of that mesh there, I altered the Kyiv to have better warp nacelles but since they're gone that is all Lord Schtupp and Pneumonic81

P.S. you got permission to release, just use my new name on the AKA bit. look forward to d/ling this beauty

P.P.S actually on second thought I think the hull looks better with the pointed arse.
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 23, 2004, 08:53:22 am
Hehe thank you guys, points noted. Im still learning as i go along and this is just a WIP, so gives me something more to try out   I wasnt happy with that font myself, glad to know im not the only one as it was bugging me too.

Thank you for the permission and info Marauth, most kind sir, i'll get em updated before i release. I may go ahead and release this one "as is" once ive changed the fonts, as it will take me ages to make the other suggested model changes (still a Max newbie)

Appreciate the comments all  

PS: Any tips for fonts to use? Im having difficulty locating a good TOS/registry style font.



 
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Lord Schtupp on March 23, 2004, 10:08:12 am
Yessir that looks real good
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 23, 2004, 11:47:05 am
He's alive! He's alive!

We were all wondering what happened to you LS.  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 24, 2004, 07:13:10 pm
If anyone is interested, im going to be releasing this tomorrow with updated full credits. Anyone is very welcome to improve the textures and registry fonts (in fact i really hope someone does) as texture work is definitely my weak point at the moment.
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 24, 2004, 08:59:55 pm
Heck ya I'm interested.Thank you sir
   
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 25, 2004, 09:56:04 am
Yer very welcome, i will work on it more with the suggestions you guys gave above at some time in the future, but thought i would put it out "as is" so others can work the textures/fonts if need be.

 
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 25, 2004, 02:11:06 pm
Quote:

Yer very welcome, i will work on it more with the suggestions you guys gave above at some time in the future, but thought i would put it out "as is" so others can work the textures/fonts if need be.  



Sounds good to me.. I have a good commercial font here that I use, so once it's out, I can re-release it for you once I color match it the textures and re-font the registry for you.  

It'll still be your work, these'll just be minor touchups..
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 25, 2004, 02:21:59 pm
Thank you Atheorhaven, that would be much appreciated! I will update the credits in the .txt file with your name when you have made any changes, please add your name to it as well if you re-upload someplace, i want everyone to get the credit they deserve.

Download link is in the first post   Thanks again for the kind comments gents.  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 26, 2004, 02:52:21 pm
Alrighty... I'll download it tonight if I can.. been unable to get to Taldren for a day and a half...
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 26, 2004, 02:56:46 pm
Quote:

Alrighty... I'll download it tonight if I can.. been unable to get to Taldren for a day and a half...  



Same here, forums were totally offline i think.

Thank you again, textures really are my weak point, especially with registries of all things  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 27, 2004, 02:33:16 am
Okay, had a little time tonight to look at the mesh and play with it a bit.  

Fixed the registry font, and also cleaned up the mesh a bit for you.  Removed the spare set of impulse engines for you, and fixed the lower hull marker lights so they matched the top set (colored).  And also fixed the smoothing issue on the pylons and color matched the pylon textures better for you too.  I think I'm going to redo the upper and bottom set of saucer textures though because they set I used don't quite match the set that you used, so I'll just mod the set you have.    But I have pics at any rate of the changes..








Like I said, I'm going to re-modify the saucer textures.. but this is mostly done.
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Dizzy on March 27, 2004, 02:41:05 am
You're going to remodify the textures on THIS larson and then release it? There is a D/L link on the 1st post. Do I d/l that or wait?
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 27, 2004, 02:41:36 am
Very nice work sir !
-MP  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Marauth on March 27, 2004, 04:55:17 am
Quote:

fixed the lower hull marker lights so they matched the top set (colored).



Just thought I'd mention the lower lights on the TOS Enterprise were white so they were correct to begin with, they were never red and green. Bloody good work in any case
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 27, 2004, 11:48:40 am
Quote:

Quote:

fixed the lower hull marker lights so they matched the top set (colored).



Just thought I'd mention the lower lights on the TOS Enterprise were white so they were correct to begin with, they were never red and green. Bloody good work in any case  



Extremely good point.. been working on too much TMP lately.  

I;ll change them back tonight, along with refixing the original saucer texture.  Noticed that there's a difference between the ones that I normally use and these ones.. so have to fix that..

Ah well, minor changes now.  

(btw, to answer that earlier question.. people are free to download either the original release or the one I'm touching up.. functionally, the only differences that will be seen will be marker lights and the font should be a bit different.  I also removed an extra set of impulse enigines that were hidden inside the mesh, but you can't see them ingame anyways).
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 27, 2004, 11:50:51 am
See my just previous post Dizzy..  D/L the one above and play with it, and then download the one that I am tweaking in a couple of days, play with both, see which you like, and use that.  

Never too many models.. (grin)
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Mariner on March 27, 2004, 05:06:08 pm
Wolfsgen thanks you for fixing his model. He' say this himself except that he can't get onto the forums right now.

Course you probably guessed that.
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 27, 2004, 10:57:28 pm
np... I'm certain that there are lots and lots of people wanting this one, and it looked great from the start.. I only tweaked it.  

New pics (ingame pics too)..








And while I was at it, I converted it to SFC 1 as well for the SFC 1 players.  Also Wolfsgen, if I can have your permission to do so, I'd like to send a version over to Nannerslug for the "G@W" mod if he's interested.  This'd be perfect for the mod..

And lastly, d/l links..

SFC 1
http://www.the-tcs.net/_hosted/atheorhaven/html/userfiles/ships/trek/sfc1/TOS_Larson_sfc1.zip

SFC 2
http://www.the-tcs.net/_hosted/atheorhaven/html/userfiles/ships/trek/sfc2/TOS_Larson_sfc2.zip

So there you go.. all fixed.  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 28, 2004, 07:26:25 am
Thank you sir ,am D/L'ing now  
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Marauth on March 28, 2004, 07:30:41 am
it's looking very cool but those running lights are still wrong - the top ones were coloured, the bottom ones were white. I'm guessing I was confusing when I said the bottom lights were white - my bad there. LOL.
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: Wolfsglen on March 29, 2004, 03:37:54 am
Damn, after all that im finally able to post again!

Anyway, hope you enjoy guys, and thanks again Atheorhaven  
 
Title: Re: WIP: TOS Larson Kitbash *Working Pics*
Post by: atheorhaven on March 29, 2004, 08:24:30 am
np Wolfsgen... and thanks for releasing it in the first place.    All I did were just a few tweaks.

After you emailed permission for him to use it, I sent Nannerslug a message about this one (including the permission to use it), so also expect to see your ship show up in the "Generations At War" mod.