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Title: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 04, 2004, 01:47:50 am
Did these weapons change i the newsest patch or are they just as I remember them to be, you either hit or dont hit, I believe it was only effective at range 0 or something like that, and they do 20 points of damage

adam out

Thx in advanced
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 04, 2004, 11:27:50 am
Heavy Disruptor damage is printed in the manual. They have the ability to "leak" through shields occasionally. The Heavy Phaser charts are below.

Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B

NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
 
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 04, 2004, 11:07:41 pm
ahhhhh, i dont get, in my manual theres a min and max, and the min after range 1 is 0, so im kinda lost with your numbers, sorry for making you have to repeat

adam out

PS thx
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 04, 2004, 11:12:51 pm
Simply put, the manual is wrong. These numbers were posted by Taldren some time ago and I copied them.
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: WillWeasel on April 05, 2004, 09:03:21 am
of course the PH-A also takes systems offline for a period of time. Works wonders against plasma chuckers    
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 12:36:09 am
In your opinion do you think it would be ok to put phaser A or b on galaxy classes, im taking someone advice they gave me a long time ago, because i was beefing about the lack of phaser hardpoints so they said add heavys, but i thought the chnace to hit sucked but if what you said is true, then which do you guys think i should use for fed dreads and battleships

adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Ravok on April 06, 2004, 12:58:31 am
 Id use the BBs Phaser As Take allot of power.  
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 01:04:35 am
k
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 10:39:44 am
Quote:

Heavy Disruptor damage is printed in the manual. They have the ability to "leak" through shields occasionally. The Heavy Phaser charts are below.

Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B

NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
   



I still dont get it, i can see the ranges ut why so many lines, isnt it just a minumum and maximum

adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 06, 2004, 07:03:07 pm
No. They act just like other Phasers, i.e. they degrade over range. They have a D6 for their die roll so they have 6 "slots" for damage in each range bracket. Phasers sweep across their target and at longer ranges they sometimes hit and sometimes miss.
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 07, 2004, 01:43:06 am
ohhhh, now i got it thanks
adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Magnum357 on April 07, 2004, 11:50:18 pm
Ya, I didn't know that SFB Phasers "Sweeped" across their target etheir.  For all these years of SFB I wondered why Phasers (and similar weapons) worked this way.  Makes much better sense now.  

More range = Less sweeping  
Title: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 04, 2004, 01:47:50 am
Did these weapons change i the newsest patch or are they just as I remember them to be, you either hit or dont hit, I believe it was only effective at range 0 or something like that, and they do 20 points of damage

adam out

Thx in advanced
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 04, 2004, 11:27:50 am
Heavy Disruptor damage is printed in the manual. They have the ability to "leak" through shields occasionally. The Heavy Phaser charts are below.

Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B

NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
 
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 04, 2004, 11:07:41 pm
ahhhhh, i dont get, in my manual theres a min and max, and the min after range 1 is 0, so im kinda lost with your numbers, sorry for making you have to repeat

adam out

PS thx
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 04, 2004, 11:12:51 pm
Simply put, the manual is wrong. These numbers were posted by Taldren some time ago and I copied them.
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: WillWeasel on April 05, 2004, 09:03:21 am
of course the PH-A also takes systems offline for a period of time. Works wonders against plasma chuckers    
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 12:36:09 am
In your opinion do you think it would be ok to put phaser A or b on galaxy classes, im taking someone advice they gave me a long time ago, because i was beefing about the lack of phaser hardpoints so they said add heavys, but i thought the chnace to hit sucked but if what you said is true, then which do you guys think i should use for fed dreads and battleships

adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Ravok on April 06, 2004, 12:58:31 am
 Id use the BBs Phaser As Take allot of power.  
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 01:04:35 am
k
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 06, 2004, 10:39:44 am
Quote:

Heavy Disruptor damage is printed in the manual. They have the ability to "leak" through shields occasionally. The Heavy Phaser charts are below.

Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B

NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
   



I still dont get it, i can see the ranges ut why so many lines, isnt it just a minumum and maximum

adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Corbomite on April 06, 2004, 07:03:07 pm
No. They act just like other Phasers, i.e. they degrade over range. They have a D6 for their die roll so they have 6 "slots" for damage in each range bracket. Phasers sweep across their target and at longer ranges they sometimes hit and sometimes miss.
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: nx_adam_1701 on April 07, 2004, 01:43:06 am
ohhhh, now i got it thanks
adam out
Title: Re: Phasers A and B, Heavy Disruptors SFC2OP
Post by: Magnum357 on April 07, 2004, 11:50:18 pm
Ya, I didn't know that SFB Phasers "Sweeped" across their target etheir.  For all these years of SFB I wondered why Phasers (and similar weapons) worked this way.  Makes much better sense now.  

More range = Less sweeping