Post by: Pestalence on April 27, 2004, 10:02:13 pm
the link should say it all...
Post by: Sirgod on April 27, 2004, 10:16:43 pm
BTW Love the new front end there Taldren.
stephen
Post by: Age on April 27, 2004, 10:48:40 pm
Post by: Praxis on April 27, 2004, 11:18:08 pm
It looks sort of...
I dunno...
silly?
(people are going to hurt me now)
Post by: Reverend on April 27, 2004, 11:21:38 pm
someone please correct me otherwise... I was THIS close to buying Shadowbane, but two someones said it bombed badly...
Admin, any response? Anyone bought this yet? Really disapponinted, as the pictures and the box's pictures are totally awesome....
Post by: Sirgod on April 27, 2004, 11:22:28 pm
Quote:
No offense Taldren...
It looks sort of...
I dunno...
silly?
(people are going to hurt me now)
Alright Praxis.
look to your left and then to your right. Find the nearest wall and do this. 
You may stop when you repent.
Stephen
Post by: Pestalence on April 27, 2004, 11:53:28 pm
Quote:
I heard it has bombed, big time, and sadly... looks very exciting, and I do love good PvP...
someone please correct me otherwise... I was THIS close to buying Shadowbane, but two someones said it bombed badly...
Admin, any response? Anyone bought this yet? Really disapponinted, as the pictures and the box's pictures are totally awesome....
Umm, i dunno how you almost bought the game in the link above since it is in Pre Beta development????
Stores haven't even heard of it yet.. Taldren just announced it on their web site...
so how , prey tell, have you almost bought it?
Post by: Ravok on April 28, 2004, 12:01:02 am
i cant wait. Honestly and i don't have to worry about support after the game is sold either!!!!! That makes it a big plus in my book.
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:02:42 am
Shadow Bane
and
Shadowbane: The Rise of Chaos
An honest mistake I'm sure though. It's nice too know though that taldrn is continuasly Grabbing ahold of new licenses and growing. It makes me proud to be a part of a community that has the potential in this new game to be the biggest clan yet for a game.
Of course they need an easter Egg Klingon to kick around, Or at least kroma.
Stephen
Post by: Pestalence on April 28, 2004, 12:10:30 am
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:19:47 am
Quote:
My appologies.. i never saw the title in stores or in any ads.. so i guess it never went over that big.. hopefully Taldren's rendition of it will kick some major arse..
I'm sure taldren will put there spin on the game, and make It very enjoyable. I'm sure Reverand will also understand as he's a great guy here in OKC. He's been by my house a few times knowing I dont have a car, and offering to Help me out If I need to go anywhere.
Is he a crazy Russian? Yep.
Is he a great guy? Yep.
Now you two pass the Vodka, and let's get the word out on this new Game.
Stephen
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 28, 2004, 12:20:09 am
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
Post by: Toasty0 on April 28, 2004, 12:26:24 am
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:30:58 am
Quote:
To be clear, the team in CA is indeed re-vamping Shadowbane for the Korean and Chinese markets (it is kinda weird, I am over here in Korea working on a new MMO, and the CA team is working on a title for Korea right now).
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
I want to know how you plan to do this when you have all this scheduled...
Quote:
fix the bMachine blogging install
figure out what the Amazon Honor system is about and see if I can use it to get more Mosquito Nets!
find a faster way to publish my photos, someone must have written a tool for that
add 10 new photos a week
make myself do 5 book reviews for each new book I want to buy
flesh out the politics page with the essays I have already written
create some Change What You Buy logos and get them on some Cafe Press shirts - again to get more Mosquito nets!
write up an over view of where I think we should go with space - specifically add Zubrin's books and review
add the commencement speach I did for the Art Institute
add projects page
From http://www.erikbethke.com/
Stephen
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 28, 2004, 01:18:33 am
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
Getting the blog/forum up is just a little pain, it seems my web company doesn't want .html and cgi folders in the same directory so I have to change some of bMachine's scripts or find another blogger.
actually I don't list all of my projects for this very reason - I don't want people to think I am not focused on particular projects - but I just plain love to create and work all the time. I don't watch TV and lately I have almost stopped watching movies... but I have increased my time with friends chatting and drinking beer....
I spend a lot of time studying korean... does anyone know how to conistently get unicode in BB code? I see some BB boards support just the subject lines and others the bodies as well. Here, nothing....
-Erik
Post by: Ravok on April 28, 2004, 01:25:33 am
Quote:
Actually, if my analysis is worth anything, I think that is the correct course of development to take at this time. A poor analogy is the time in film devlopment history when the Big Studios were calcifiing and it was the independents who made the market happen with the best product.
Best,
Jerry
I think this is a verry astute observation!!!!!!!!
Post by: TalonClaw on April 28, 2004, 11:10:02 am
Quote:
To be clear, the team in CA is indeed re-vamping Shadowbane for the Korean and Chinese markets (it is kinda weird, I am over here in Korea working on a new MMO, and the CA team is working on a title for Korea right now).
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
And after your rake in all that DOH from your SB MMORPG can we have a MMOG of Starfleet Command 4??? With a persistent universe?
Post by: Praxis on April 28, 2004, 11:32:16 am
Post by: Toasty0 on April 28, 2004, 10:30:03 pm
Quote:
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
LOL...sorry Erik, but you asked for this zing...
Yes, any one can use a word processor and even compose a sentence or two, but ultimately it is the skill of the user/coder that determines wether or not what is produced is a Pulitzer or just more drek cluttering the internet transome.
That aside, I honestly suggest that even though frontpage does offer a plathora of templates (and thus shortens development time for the rookie), it ultimately lacks any sense of a visual cohesion(sp) and thematic style that is so important to a succesfull internet site.
I have 3--strike that--I have 4 sites I suggest you look at for excellence is style and workability.
http://www.codeproject.com/index.asp
http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/tutorials.html
http://www.bankofamerica.com/index.cfm
and last but surely not least--
http://www.taldren.com/
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 10:40:33 am
Let me get this straight, you took your time to write a post to tell me that there are at least 4 websites on the internet that are much better than mine.
Nice,
-Erik
Post by: SPQR Renegade001 on April 30, 2004, 11:02:49 am
Post by: Toasty0 on April 30, 2004, 11:15:55 am
Quote:
Hey Jerry,
Let me get this straight, you took your time to write a post to tell me that there are at least 4 websites on the internet that are much better than mine.
Nice,
-Erik
Erik,
If you choose to look at my post that way you can, but then that would be a waste. Or you can choose to look at my post in the light of constructive critism given with examples to enlighten.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 01:29:04 pm
Quote:
LOL...sorry Erik, but you asked for this zing...
Yes, any one can use a word processor and even compose a sentence or two, but ultimately it is the skill of the user/coder that determines wether or not what is produced is a Pulitzer or just more drek cluttering the internet transome.
Toasty are these not your words?
Laughs out load
you asked for
Zing
compose a sentence
just more drek
C'mon man, lighten up will ya? I didn't do anything to make your life bad. I don't hate you. I just put a website to communicate with people, not to impress anyone with my l33t webskills.
If you feel the need to be mean, share it with someone else or kick your fish, I don't want it.
-Erik
Post by: Toasty0 on April 30, 2004, 03:05:20 pm
Quote:
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
I guess I must've perceived something that isn't there.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 07:51:44 pm
You were probably thinkiing that is addition to claiming it was easy stuff, I was claiming it was good stuff! I am clearly not! ;-)
-Erik
Post by: Sirgod on April 30, 2004, 08:56:51 pm
Stephen
Post by: Toasty0 on May 02, 2004, 11:41:52 pm
This morning I surfed through your site (funny tag line at the top) and noticed your email addy is not a hotlink and thus your visitor must cut-n-paste to contact you by emai.
Try this little snippet to remedy that obstacle.
<A href="mailto:Erik@Taldren.com">Email Erik AT Taldren</A>
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on May 03, 2004, 01:36:13 am
But I was wondering wouldn't spammers have automated spiders to collect email addresses? That was what I was avoiding...
What do you think?
And thank you Toasty,
-Erik
Post by: Raniz Murjuri on May 03, 2004, 03:13:57 am
Quote:
My appologies.. i never saw the title in stores or in any ads.. so i guess it never went over that big.. hopefully Taldren's rendition of it will kick some major arse..
well i certianly hope so.
i played Shadowbane... ( the first one for 5 months)
It did bomb badly to a huge portion of Gamers.
but that was due to Wolfpack studios.. and thier Rush to get an unfinished game to the public.
stability issues plagued the game.
if you want to try the first part of the game.. sure.. i'll send you my copy.. since no one on EBAY would buy it.
on the other hand.. i have trust in taldren, and thier ability to turn the SB title around.
Post by: Toasty0 on May 03, 2004, 10:12:05 am
Quote:
Thank you toasty,
But I was wondering wouldn't spammers have automated spiders to collect email addresses? That was what I was avoiding...
What do you think?
And thank you Toasty,
-Erik
It does happen, but after two years with my email displayed in that manner I have not had any increase in spam. I think newsgroup are still the most common method of harvesting emails, then the nefarerous(sp) "free signup" sites.
You can always creat a MSN or Hotmail account or any other forwarding account (such as: Erik@erik.com) to test things. If it does begin to get a flood of spam oyu can always close the email account and go back to your old method.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Praxis on May 03, 2004, 02:13:06 pm
Post by: Reverend on May 05, 2004, 12:41:03 pm
I just didn't get it- will this Taldren version be available here? Is this an expansion, do I have to get the original, or can I just shove it (the Taldren version) in and play?
I would like a copy of it if you're handing them out, it looked like fun... heck, maybe they have patched it up by by now...
thanks guys
Post by: Pestalence on April 27, 2004, 10:02:13 pm
the link should say it all...
Post by: Sirgod on April 27, 2004, 10:16:43 pm
BTW Love the new front end there Taldren.
stephen
Post by: Age on April 27, 2004, 10:48:40 pm
Post by: Praxis on April 27, 2004, 11:18:08 pm
It looks sort of...
I dunno...
silly?
(people are going to hurt me now)
Post by: Reverend on April 27, 2004, 11:21:38 pm
someone please correct me otherwise... I was THIS close to buying Shadowbane, but two someones said it bombed badly...
Admin, any response? Anyone bought this yet? Really disapponinted, as the pictures and the box's pictures are totally awesome....
Post by: Sirgod on April 27, 2004, 11:22:28 pm
Quote:
No offense Taldren...
It looks sort of...
I dunno...
silly?
(people are going to hurt me now)
Alright Praxis.
look to your left and then to your right. Find the nearest wall and do this. You may stop when you repent.
Stephen
Post by: Pestalence on April 27, 2004, 11:53:28 pm
Quote:
I heard it has bombed, big time, and sadly... looks very exciting, and I do love good PvP...
someone please correct me otherwise... I was THIS close to buying Shadowbane, but two someones said it bombed badly...
Admin, any response? Anyone bought this yet? Really disapponinted, as the pictures and the box's pictures are totally awesome....
Umm, i dunno how you almost bought the game in the link above since it is in Pre Beta development????
Stores haven't even heard of it yet.. Taldren just announced it on their web site...
so how , prey tell, have you almost bought it?
Post by: Ravok on April 28, 2004, 12:01:02 am
i cant wait. Honestly and i don't have to worry about support after the game is sold either!!!!! That makes it a big plus in my book.
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:02:42 am
Shadow Bane
and
Shadowbane: The Rise of Chaos
An honest mistake I'm sure though. It's nice too know though that taldrn is continuasly Grabbing ahold of new licenses and growing. It makes me proud to be a part of a community that has the potential in this new game to be the biggest clan yet for a game.
Of course they need an easter Egg Klingon to kick around, Or at least kroma.
Stephen
Post by: Pestalence on April 28, 2004, 12:10:30 am
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:19:47 am
Quote:
My appologies.. i never saw the title in stores or in any ads.. so i guess it never went over that big.. hopefully Taldren's rendition of it will kick some major arse..
I'm sure taldren will put there spin on the game, and make It very enjoyable. I'm sure Reverand will also understand as he's a great guy here in OKC. He's been by my house a few times knowing I dont have a car, and offering to Help me out If I need to go anywhere.
Is he a crazy Russian? Yep.
Is he a great guy? Yep.
Now you two pass the Vodka, and let's get the word out on this new Game.
Stephen
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 28, 2004, 12:20:09 am
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
Post by: Toasty0 on April 28, 2004, 12:26:24 am
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Sirgod on April 28, 2004, 12:30:58 am
Quote:
To be clear, the team in CA is indeed re-vamping Shadowbane for the Korean and Chinese markets (it is kinda weird, I am over here in Korea working on a new MMO, and the CA team is working on a title for Korea right now).
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
I want to know how you plan to do this when you have all this scheduled...
Quote:
fix the bMachine blogging install
figure out what the Amazon Honor system is about and see if I can use it to get more Mosquito Nets!
find a faster way to publish my photos, someone must have written a tool for that
add 10 new photos a week
make myself do 5 book reviews for each new book I want to buy
flesh out the politics page with the essays I have already written
create some Change What You Buy logos and get them on some Cafe Press shirts - again to get more Mosquito nets!
write up an over view of where I think we should go with space - specifically add Zubrin's books and review
add the commencement speach I did for the Art Institute
add projects page
From http://www.erikbethke.com/
Stephen
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 28, 2004, 01:18:33 am
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
Getting the blog/forum up is just a little pain, it seems my web company doesn't want .html and cgi folders in the same directory so I have to change some of bMachine's scripts or find another blogger.
actually I don't list all of my projects for this very reason - I don't want people to think I am not focused on particular projects - but I just plain love to create and work all the time. I don't watch TV and lately I have almost stopped watching movies... but I have increased my time with friends chatting and drinking beer....
I spend a lot of time studying korean... does anyone know how to conistently get unicode in BB code? I see some BB boards support just the subject lines and others the bodies as well. Here, nothing....
-Erik
Post by: Ravok on April 28, 2004, 01:25:33 am
Quote:
Actually, if my analysis is worth anything, I think that is the correct course of development to take at this time. A poor analogy is the time in film devlopment history when the Big Studios were calcifiing and it was the independents who made the market happen with the best product.
Best,
Jerry
I think this is a verry astute observation!!!!!!!!
Post by: TalonClaw on April 28, 2004, 11:10:02 am
Quote:
To be clear, the team in CA is indeed re-vamping Shadowbane for the Korean and Chinese markets (it is kinda weird, I am over here in Korea working on a new MMO, and the CA team is working on a title for Korea right now).
I am sure you guys could get in and play, but the playerbase will be mostly Korean and a fierce set of Chinese clans that the Korean player base whines about! ;-)
Taldren as a whole has shifted over to concentrating on online / service / small games and somewhat away from console work. We want to create games where our connection to the players is as close as possible. That may sound hooey, but it is true, working behind several middle businesses is not satisfying.
-Erik
And after your rake in all that DOH from your SB MMORPG can we have a MMOG of Starfleet Command 4??? With a persistent universe?
Post by: Praxis on April 28, 2004, 11:32:16 am
Post by: Toasty0 on April 28, 2004, 10:30:03 pm
Quote:
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
LOL...sorry Erik, but you asked for this zing...
Yes, any one can use a word processor and even compose a sentence or two, but ultimately it is the skill of the user/coder that determines wether or not what is produced is a Pulitzer or just more drek cluttering the internet transome.
That aside, I honestly suggest that even though frontpage does offer a plathora of templates (and thus shortens development time for the rookie), it ultimately lacks any sense of a visual cohesion(sp) and thematic style that is so important to a succesfull internet site.
I have 3--strike that--I have 4 sites I suggest you look at for excellence is style and workability.
http://www.codeproject.com/index.asp
http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/tutorials.html
http://www.bankofamerica.com/index.cfm
and last but surely not least--
http://www.taldren.com/
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 10:40:33 am
Let me get this straight, you took your time to write a post to tell me that there are at least 4 websites on the internet that are much better than mine.
Nice,
-Erik
Post by: SPQR Renegade001 on April 30, 2004, 11:02:49 am
Post by: Toasty0 on April 30, 2004, 11:15:55 am
Quote:
Hey Jerry,
Let me get this straight, you took your time to write a post to tell me that there are at least 4 websites on the internet that are much better than mine.
Nice,
-Erik
Erik,
If you choose to look at my post that way you can, but then that would be a waste. Or you can choose to look at my post in the light of constructive critism given with examples to enlighten.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 01:29:04 pm
Quote:
LOL...sorry Erik, but you asked for this zing...
Yes, any one can use a word processor and even compose a sentence or two, but ultimately it is the skill of the user/coder that determines wether or not what is produced is a Pulitzer or just more drek cluttering the internet transome.
Toasty are these not your words?
Laughs out load
you asked for
Zing
compose a sentence
just more drek
C'mon man, lighten up will ya? I didn't do anything to make your life bad. I don't hate you. I just put a website to communicate with people, not to impress anyone with my l33t webskills.
If you feel the need to be mean, share it with someone else or kick your fish, I don't want it.
-Erik
Post by: Toasty0 on April 30, 2004, 03:05:20 pm
Quote:
the webstuff - ahh that is easy stuff to crank out... I think I have spent only about 15 hours or so on my sight so far...
I guess I must've perceived something that isn't there.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on April 30, 2004, 07:51:44 pm
You were probably thinkiing that is addition to claiming it was easy stuff, I was claiming it was good stuff! I am clearly not! ;-)
-Erik
Post by: Sirgod on April 30, 2004, 08:56:51 pm
Stephen
Post by: Toasty0 on May 02, 2004, 11:41:52 pm
This morning I surfed through your site (funny tag line at the top) and noticed your email addy is not a hotlink and thus your visitor must cut-n-paste to contact you by emai.
Try this little snippet to remedy that obstacle.
<A href="mailto:Erik@Taldren.com">Email Erik AT Taldren</A>
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Erik Bethke on May 03, 2004, 01:36:13 am
But I was wondering wouldn't spammers have automated spiders to collect email addresses? That was what I was avoiding...
What do you think?
And thank you Toasty,
-Erik
Post by: Raniz Murjuri on May 03, 2004, 03:13:57 am
Quote:
My appologies.. i never saw the title in stores or in any ads.. so i guess it never went over that big.. hopefully Taldren's rendition of it will kick some major arse..
well i certianly hope so.
i played Shadowbane... ( the first one for 5 months)
It did bomb badly to a huge portion of Gamers.
but that was due to Wolfpack studios.. and thier Rush to get an unfinished game to the public.
stability issues plagued the game.
if you want to try the first part of the game.. sure.. i'll send you my copy.. since no one on EBAY would buy it.
on the other hand.. i have trust in taldren, and thier ability to turn the SB title around.
Post by: Toasty0 on May 03, 2004, 10:12:05 am
Quote:
Thank you toasty,
But I was wondering wouldn't spammers have automated spiders to collect email addresses? That was what I was avoiding...
What do you think?
And thank you Toasty,
-Erik
It does happen, but after two years with my email displayed in that manner I have not had any increase in spam. I think newsgroup are still the most common method of harvesting emails, then the nefarerous(sp) "free signup" sites.
You can always creat a MSN or Hotmail account or any other forwarding account (such as: Erik@erik.com) to test things. If it does begin to get a flood of spam oyu can always close the email account and go back to your old method.
Best,
Jerry
Post by: Praxis on May 03, 2004, 02:13:06 pm
Post by: Reverend on May 05, 2004, 12:41:03 pm
I just didn't get it- will this Taldren version be available here? Is this an expansion, do I have to get the original, or can I just shove it (the Taldren version) in and play?
I would like a copy of it if you're handing them out, it looked like fun... heck, maybe they have patched it up by by now...
thanks guys