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Title: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 03, 2004, 06:03:27 pm
I just received a word from LucasArts formally announcing the sequel to KotOR. Details were sketchy, aside from a name "Sith Lords". They did say the storyline involving Sith assassins hunting the PCs, and a Republic that's in turmoil five years after the events of the original KotOR (even though I broke up the Sith Academy, defeated the Sith fleet, did all sorts of errands and fricking handed them Darth Malak's head on a silver platter. Jeez, all that work and they still screwed up!)

KotOR is the one great single player RPG of the current generation of machines. Given some of the talent working on the sequel (it's being produced at Feargus Urquhart's Obsidian studio) I have no doubt that KotOR II will be a great game too. More information will be on LucasArts' web site later this week, and it'll be demoed at E3 later this month. KotOR II's scheduled for a February 2005 release, and will be simultaneously released on Xbox and PC.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 03, 2004, 09:25:34 pm
As interesting as KOTOR 1 was, I don't consider it as a true RPG; more like RPG light, designed to sell to the masses rather than those who are truely into the genre.  For one thing, they place way too many limits on the creation and management of the PC, making the game almost like an FPS than an RPG.  While the first one was entertaining and I have high hopes for the sequel, I don't think that they should be considered as RPGs in the same vein as Neverwinter Nights or the Baldur's Gate series.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Stormbringer on May 03, 2004, 09:40:24 pm
Yeah? Well I've been secretly commisioned to work on KotR III ! And I'm adding tactical warp, 3 missing character races, Starship modification and missing weapons like force webs and Push-Pull force beams, so there!

PS:  it is subtitled Galactic Knights at War.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TheSatyr on May 04, 2004, 02:16:50 am
Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: vsfedwards on May 04, 2004, 07:16:22 am
I was just about to post this too, but I will go one up on you and post the article *pouts*

   
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 04, 2004, 09:07:56 am
Quote:

Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.  



KOTOR is definitely worth playing.  The conversations with a certain robot are just gut busting.  

Unlike many games these days KOTOR has an excellent story.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 11:39:08 am
I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:11:24 pm
Well Chris Avellone is doing a lot of the design - and Chris is the most talented creative designer I've ever worked with.

I expect great things.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 12:47:50 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  




So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 12:47:52 pm
First things first
1) Have him write me down for a beta tester!
2) KOTOR I is most DEFINITLY worth your $. i never thought it would be, but a friend convinced me it was worth it. Bioware really re-captured the fun and excitement of the Star Wars Universe. I'm sure Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux) can do the same!  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:56:22 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..

I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  

Ann  



So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?  



There are two. Darth Wagner and Darth Verdi.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 01:00:19 pm
Quote:

Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux)


Um, if you want to remain on the good side of the guys at Obsidian I don't suggest you say that to them...
they are not a runner up for Bioware or a part 2. They are their own thing.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 02:01:46 pm
I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 03:14:16 pm
You know, I bet that mask would be easy to duplicate for a Halloween costume.  Definitely a lot easier than Darth Revan's outfit from KOTOR 1.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 03:59:24 pm
Excellent. Knights of the Old Republic was the best Star Wars game ever. Especially excellent considering Bioware isn't doing it. After buying a number of their sequels, I am thoroughly convinced that Bioware sequels can do nothing but upset me. The fact that people here in the game business speak highly of the people developing KOTOR2 futher raises my spirits.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:03:59 pm
Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 04:12:36 pm
Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:21:42 pm
Quote:

Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    




Read about somebody trying it and giving up when they got to the chest armor.  This guy (or gal) looks a bit more sinister than Revan and even Malak, who frankly didn't look much like any Sith lord that we've seen before, at least until that one jaw-dropping scene of him in one of the latter cut scenes.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:32:25 pm
I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:37:48 pm
Quote:

I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."



Spoken like someone who isn't disturbed by clowns.  The fire effects also help in that shot.  Hopefully, they'll get someone who can put a good voice behind the mask.  Even though Malak wasn't that intimitdating visually, Rafael Ferrer's voice gave him a very creepy quality.

Speaking of voices, I hope they go all out again this time.  KOTOR 1 proved that you don't need uber-celebrities to provide a good voice cast.
 

Quote:

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.



I said it was the "jaw-dropping" scene.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 05:49:39 pm
Here's the official teaser site for it and a preview for it.  Amazing how little they revealed in those two pages.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 09:00:52 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann  



Well then. I apologize completely.  I must now procede to beat my sources with a stick.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 09:47:04 pm
I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 05, 2004, 08:34:58 am
Looks like they have some considerable talent on the project.

These guys worked on projects such as Fallout, Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Dark Alliance, and Planescape: Torment.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Dash Jones on May 05, 2004, 01:06:09 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  



OH!?

What's your last name?

Wait a sec.  Found it.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 05, 2004, 01:31:11 pm
Cheater! lol
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 05, 2004, 06:10:55 pm
Quote:

I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie    



Word UP!
The place reeks of bitchin...  

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 05, 2004, 09:21:50 pm
How much armtwisting would it take to get some exclusive info on the Sith Lords out of you and your hubby?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 08:16:14 am
Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 10:26:33 am
Quote:

Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave  




Oh good.  Maybe we'll be getting a frog-like species that's hellbent on...what's the word?...pacifying the galaxy?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 10:44:36 am
Whatever it is, we know the art will be sweet.

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 01:43:14 pm
Well, judging by the concept art at the official site, I'd say they're off to a good start.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 03:21:59 pm
Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



 

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 03:24:19 pm
So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work?  Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask.  Definately would be an interesting and original twist.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 06, 2004, 04:21:12 pm
It definitly looks like a possibility.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Towelie on May 06, 2004, 04:44:19 pm
 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Maniac on May 06, 2004, 06:14:52 pm
Quote:

 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.  



I have read that HK-47 will be back, but I don't know about that meatbag Bastila.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 06, 2004, 06:16:19 pm
Quote:

Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



Scott Bruno is a woman?!?  

Quote:

So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work? Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask. Definately would be an interesting and original twist.



Possibly, especially considering the flash advertisement in that LucasArts link you posted. The robes definitely seem made with female hair in mind. I'm curious about the lady in white as well. Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads? Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.

 
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 06:19:52 pm
Quote:

Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads?



I read at the Obsidian forums that a dev accidently let the name of the Jedi woman in white slip and a few people caught it before he could edit it, meaning that she's likely a companion character like Bastila.


Quote:

 Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.



Then wouldn't the game have to be called Sith Ladies?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 07, 2004, 09:16:44 am
I know i read somewhere that they're keeping the droids you used, just like in the movies. Basically they thought it was kinda funny how the same droids ALWAYS come up, and that they could do it too.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 07, 2004, 07:52:10 pm
Strike the female Sith part, one of the artists inadvertantly confirmed that the masked one above is indeed a male.  Damn, why couldn't the devs around here been as loose-lipped back in the day.  
Title: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 03, 2004, 06:03:27 pm
I just received a word from LucasArts formally announcing the sequel to KotOR. Details were sketchy, aside from a name "Sith Lords". They did say the storyline involving Sith assassins hunting the PCs, and a Republic that's in turmoil five years after the events of the original KotOR (even though I broke up the Sith Academy, defeated the Sith fleet, did all sorts of errands and fricking handed them Darth Malak's head on a silver platter. Jeez, all that work and they still screwed up!)

KotOR is the one great single player RPG of the current generation of machines. Given some of the talent working on the sequel (it's being produced at Feargus Urquhart's Obsidian studio) I have no doubt that KotOR II will be a great game too. More information will be on LucasArts' web site later this week, and it'll be demoed at E3 later this month. KotOR II's scheduled for a February 2005 release, and will be simultaneously released on Xbox and PC.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 03, 2004, 09:25:34 pm
As interesting as KOTOR 1 was, I don't consider it as a true RPG; more like RPG light, designed to sell to the masses rather than those who are truely into the genre.  For one thing, they place way too many limits on the creation and management of the PC, making the game almost like an FPS than an RPG.  While the first one was entertaining and I have high hopes for the sequel, I don't think that they should be considered as RPGs in the same vein as Neverwinter Nights or the Baldur's Gate series.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Stormbringer on May 03, 2004, 09:40:24 pm
Yeah? Well I've been secretly commisioned to work on KotR III ! And I'm adding tactical warp, 3 missing character races, Starship modification and missing weapons like force webs and Push-Pull force beams, so there!

PS:  it is subtitled Galactic Knights at War.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TheSatyr on May 04, 2004, 02:16:50 am
Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: vsfedwards on May 04, 2004, 07:16:22 am
I was just about to post this too, but I will go one up on you and post the article *pouts*

   
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 04, 2004, 09:07:56 am
Quote:

Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.  



KOTOR is definitely worth playing.  The conversations with a certain robot are just gut busting.  

Unlike many games these days KOTOR has an excellent story.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 11:39:08 am
I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:11:24 pm
Well Chris Avellone is doing a lot of the design - and Chris is the most talented creative designer I've ever worked with.

I expect great things.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 12:47:50 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  




So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 12:47:52 pm
First things first
1) Have him write me down for a beta tester!
2) KOTOR I is most DEFINITLY worth your $. i never thought it would be, but a friend convinced me it was worth it. Bioware really re-captured the fun and excitement of the Star Wars Universe. I'm sure Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux) can do the same!  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:56:22 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..

I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  

Ann  



So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?  



There are two. Darth Wagner and Darth Verdi.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 01:00:19 pm
Quote:

Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux)


Um, if you want to remain on the good side of the guys at Obsidian I don't suggest you say that to them...
they are not a runner up for Bioware or a part 2. They are their own thing.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 02:01:46 pm
I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 03:14:16 pm
You know, I bet that mask would be easy to duplicate for a Halloween costume.  Definitely a lot easier than Darth Revan's outfit from KOTOR 1.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 03:59:24 pm
Excellent. Knights of the Old Republic was the best Star Wars game ever. Especially excellent considering Bioware isn't doing it. After buying a number of their sequels, I am thoroughly convinced that Bioware sequels can do nothing but upset me. The fact that people here in the game business speak highly of the people developing KOTOR2 futher raises my spirits.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:03:59 pm
Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 04:12:36 pm
Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:21:42 pm
Quote:

Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    




Read about somebody trying it and giving up when they got to the chest armor.  This guy (or gal) looks a bit more sinister than Revan and even Malak, who frankly didn't look much like any Sith lord that we've seen before, at least until that one jaw-dropping scene of him in one of the latter cut scenes.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:32:25 pm
I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:37:48 pm
Quote:

I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."



Spoken like someone who isn't disturbed by clowns.  The fire effects also help in that shot.  Hopefully, they'll get someone who can put a good voice behind the mask.  Even though Malak wasn't that intimitdating visually, Rafael Ferrer's voice gave him a very creepy quality.

Speaking of voices, I hope they go all out again this time.  KOTOR 1 proved that you don't need uber-celebrities to provide a good voice cast.
 

Quote:

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.



I said it was the "jaw-dropping" scene.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 05:49:39 pm
Here's the official teaser site for it and a preview for it.  Amazing how little they revealed in those two pages.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 09:00:52 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann  



Well then. I apologize completely.  I must now procede to beat my sources with a stick.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 09:47:04 pm
I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 05, 2004, 08:34:58 am
Looks like they have some considerable talent on the project.

These guys worked on projects such as Fallout, Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Dark Alliance, and Planescape: Torment.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Dash Jones on May 05, 2004, 01:06:09 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  



OH!?

What's your last name?

Wait a sec.  Found it.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 05, 2004, 01:31:11 pm
Cheater! lol
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 05, 2004, 06:10:55 pm
Quote:

I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie    



Word UP!
The place reeks of bitchin...  

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 05, 2004, 09:21:50 pm
How much armtwisting would it take to get some exclusive info on the Sith Lords out of you and your hubby?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 08:16:14 am
Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 10:26:33 am
Quote:

Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave  




Oh good.  Maybe we'll be getting a frog-like species that's hellbent on...what's the word?...pacifying the galaxy?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 10:44:36 am
Whatever it is, we know the art will be sweet.

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 01:43:14 pm
Well, judging by the concept art at the official site, I'd say they're off to a good start.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 03:21:59 pm
Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



 

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 03:24:19 pm
So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work?  Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask.  Definately would be an interesting and original twist.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 06, 2004, 04:21:12 pm
It definitly looks like a possibility.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Towelie on May 06, 2004, 04:44:19 pm
 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Maniac on May 06, 2004, 06:14:52 pm
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 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.  



I have read that HK-47 will be back, but I don't know about that meatbag Bastila.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 06, 2004, 06:16:19 pm
Quote:

Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



Scott Bruno is a woman?!?  

Quote:

So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work? Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask. Definately would be an interesting and original twist.



Possibly, especially considering the flash advertisement in that LucasArts link you posted. The robes definitely seem made with female hair in mind. I'm curious about the lady in white as well. Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads? Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.

 
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 06:19:52 pm
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Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads?



I read at the Obsidian forums that a dev accidently let the name of the Jedi woman in white slip and a few people caught it before he could edit it, meaning that she's likely a companion character like Bastila.


Quote:

 Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.



Then wouldn't the game have to be called Sith Ladies?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 07, 2004, 09:16:44 am
I know i read somewhere that they're keeping the droids you used, just like in the movies. Basically they thought it was kinda funny how the same droids ALWAYS come up, and that they could do it too.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 07, 2004, 07:52:10 pm
Strike the female Sith part, one of the artists inadvertantly confirmed that the masked one above is indeed a male.  Damn, why couldn't the devs around here been as loose-lipped back in the day.  
Title: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 03, 2004, 06:03:27 pm
I just received a word from LucasArts formally announcing the sequel to KotOR. Details were sketchy, aside from a name "Sith Lords". They did say the storyline involving Sith assassins hunting the PCs, and a Republic that's in turmoil five years after the events of the original KotOR (even though I broke up the Sith Academy, defeated the Sith fleet, did all sorts of errands and fricking handed them Darth Malak's head on a silver platter. Jeez, all that work and they still screwed up!)

KotOR is the one great single player RPG of the current generation of machines. Given some of the talent working on the sequel (it's being produced at Feargus Urquhart's Obsidian studio) I have no doubt that KotOR II will be a great game too. More information will be on LucasArts' web site later this week, and it'll be demoed at E3 later this month. KotOR II's scheduled for a February 2005 release, and will be simultaneously released on Xbox and PC.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 03, 2004, 09:25:34 pm
As interesting as KOTOR 1 was, I don't consider it as a true RPG; more like RPG light, designed to sell to the masses rather than those who are truely into the genre.  For one thing, they place way too many limits on the creation and management of the PC, making the game almost like an FPS than an RPG.  While the first one was entertaining and I have high hopes for the sequel, I don't think that they should be considered as RPGs in the same vein as Neverwinter Nights or the Baldur's Gate series.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Stormbringer on May 03, 2004, 09:40:24 pm
Yeah? Well I've been secretly commisioned to work on KotR III ! And I'm adding tactical warp, 3 missing character races, Starship modification and missing weapons like force webs and Push-Pull force beams, so there!

PS:  it is subtitled Galactic Knights at War.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TheSatyr on May 04, 2004, 02:16:50 am
Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: vsfedwards on May 04, 2004, 07:16:22 am
I was just about to post this too, but I will go one up on you and post the article *pouts*

   
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 04, 2004, 09:07:56 am
Quote:

Question...Is KOTR worth buying?

I'm bored with NWN (have had it since it came out) and am looking for another PC RPG.  



KOTOR is definitely worth playing.  The conversations with a certain robot are just gut busting.  

Unlike many games these days KOTOR has an excellent story.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 11:39:08 am
I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:11:24 pm
Well Chris Avellone is doing a lot of the design - and Chris is the most talented creative designer I've ever worked with.

I expect great things.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 12:47:50 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  




So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 12:47:52 pm
First things first
1) Have him write me down for a beta tester!
2) KOTOR I is most DEFINITLY worth your $. i never thought it would be, but a friend convinced me it was worth it. Bioware really re-captured the fun and excitement of the Star Wars Universe. I'm sure Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux) can do the same!  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 12:56:22 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..

I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  

Ann  



So you know who the Sith Lord of the Opera is?  



There are two. Darth Wagner and Darth Verdi.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 01:00:19 pm
Quote:

Obsidian (Bioware Part Deux)


Um, if you want to remain on the good side of the guys at Obsidian I don't suggest you say that to them...
they are not a runner up for Bioware or a part 2. They are their own thing.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 02:01:46 pm
I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 03:14:16 pm
You know, I bet that mask would be easy to duplicate for a Halloween costume.  Definitely a lot easier than Darth Revan's outfit from KOTOR 1.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 03:59:24 pm
Excellent. Knights of the Old Republic was the best Star Wars game ever. Especially excellent considering Bioware isn't doing it. After buying a number of their sequels, I am thoroughly convinced that Bioware sequels can do nothing but upset me. The fact that people here in the game business speak highly of the people developing KOTOR2 futher raises my spirits.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:03:59 pm
Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 04, 2004, 04:12:36 pm
Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:21:42 pm
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Perhaps. But Revan's outfit looks much better, from what I have so far seen, in my opinion.

And, uh, did you actually try to make a Darth Revan outfit?    




Read about somebody trying it and giving up when they got to the chest armor.  This guy (or gal) looks a bit more sinister than Revan and even Malak, who frankly didn't look much like any Sith lord that we've seen before, at least until that one jaw-dropping scene of him in one of the latter cut scenes.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 04, 2004, 04:32:25 pm
I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.    
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 04:37:48 pm
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I would have to disagree. The new darth lord makes me think of "Darth Clown."



Spoken like someone who isn't disturbed by clowns.  The fire effects also help in that shot.  Hopefully, they'll get someone who can put a good voice behind the mask.  Even though Malak wasn't that intimitdating visually, Rafael Ferrer's voice gave him a very creepy quality.

Speaking of voices, I hope they go all out again this time.  KOTOR 1 proved that you don't need uber-celebrities to provide a good voice cast.
 

Quote:

What Malak scene are you talking about? I played both sides, and he always looked the same as far as I recall.



I said it was the "jaw-dropping" scene.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 04, 2004, 05:49:39 pm
Here's the official teaser site for it and a preview for it.  Amazing how little they revealed in those two pages.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 04, 2004, 09:00:52 pm
Quote:

Quote:

I apologize, i didn't mean anything to suggest they were in the shadow of Bioware.  I was merely trying to point out that some from Bioware had migrated to Obsidian. This is correct, yes?  



Not correct, I don't know of a single person working at Obsidian that worked at Bioware. They really are their own thing. Obsidian is a really cool group of guys with some considerable talent but no affiliation with Bioware. I believe great things will come from this group.

Ann  



Well then. I apologize completely.  I must now procede to beat my sources with a stick.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: SFC Bennie on May 04, 2004, 09:47:04 pm
I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: TalonClaw on May 05, 2004, 08:34:58 am
Looks like they have some considerable talent on the project.

These guys worked on projects such as Fallout, Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Dark Alliance, and Planescape: Torment.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Dash Jones on May 05, 2004, 01:06:09 pm
Quote:

I like Kotor 1 but Ihave to say Kotor 2  is AWESOME. Better graphics and more gameplay features..


I am prejudice in this reguard though since my Husband is one of the people working on it  



Ann  



OH!?

What's your last name?

Wait a sec.  Found it.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 05, 2004, 01:31:11 pm
Cheater! lol
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Taldren_Admin on May 05, 2004, 06:10:55 pm
Quote:

I'd say that Obsidian is far more "Black Isle II" than "Bioware 2", given they've got Feargus, Chris A., Chris Jones (a really talented programmer who never got the respect he deserved at Interplay) and Darren M from Interplay's old workhorse.

They'll do very well.

Scott Bennie    



Word UP!
The place reeks of bitchin...  

Ann
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 05, 2004, 09:21:50 pm
How much armtwisting would it take to get some exclusive info on the Sith Lords out of you and your hubby?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 08:16:14 am
Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 10:26:33 am
Quote:

Don't forget Ed Lacabane of SFC2, OP and SFC3 fame, is also part
of the Obsidian team.  Ed did starship art (both 2d and 3d) for SFC
and also most of the character portraits.  Really a nice guy and
talented individual.

Thanks,

Dave  




Oh good.  Maybe we'll be getting a frog-like species that's hellbent on...what's the word?...pacifying the galaxy?  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 10:44:36 am
Whatever it is, we know the art will be sweet.

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 01:43:14 pm
Well, judging by the concept art at the official site, I'd say they're off to a good start.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: David Ferrell on May 06, 2004, 03:21:59 pm
Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



 

Thanks,

Dave  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 03:24:19 pm
So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work?  Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask.  Definately would be an interesting and original twist.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 06, 2004, 04:21:12 pm
It definitly looks like a possibility.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Towelie on May 06, 2004, 04:44:19 pm
 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Maniac on May 06, 2004, 06:14:52 pm
Quote:

 Yes, but there is one BIG question that nobody is answering, will HK-47 be back to kill Bastila? And if so, can we get him more upgrades?

  KOTOR was soo addicting, thankfully SWG will hold me over untill the second one is released. I trust they will make it even bigger than the first.  



I have read that HK-47 will be back, but I don't know about that meatbag Bastila.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Tremok on May 06, 2004, 06:16:19 pm
Quote:

Yeah I suggested that they model a dark jedi after Scott Bruno,
I'd say the likeness is remarkable!



Scott Bruno is a woman?!?  

Quote:

So Scott was in to wearing ancient Japanese theater costumes at work? Ha, ha!

I keep wondering if that Sith character might in fact be a she under that mask. Definately would be an interesting and original twist.



Possibly, especially considering the flash advertisement in that LucasArts link you posted. The robes definitely seem made with female hair in mind. I'm curious about the lady in white as well. Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads? Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.

 
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 06, 2004, 06:19:52 pm
Quote:

Perhaps no one in particular, like the men in the KotOR 1 ads?



I read at the Obsidian forums that a dev accidently let the name of the Jedi woman in white slip and a few people caught it before he could edit it, meaning that she's likely a companion character like Bastila.


Quote:

 Women don't have the sheer menance power of men, but a female Sith Lord could be interesting.



Then wouldn't the game have to be called Sith Ladies?
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Iceman on May 07, 2004, 09:16:44 am
I know i read somewhere that they're keeping the droids you used, just like in the movies. Basically they thought it was kinda funny how the same droids ALWAYS come up, and that they could do it too.  
Title: Re: KotOR II Announced
Post by: Rat_Boy on May 07, 2004, 07:52:10 pm
Strike the female Sith part, one of the artists inadvertantly confirmed that the masked one above is indeed a male.  Damn, why couldn't the devs around here been as loose-lipped back in the day.