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Title: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 07:59:19 am

OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...

I just re-installed SFC 3 and have been playing the single player missions and I decided that I just hate the cloaking device.  But not for any of the reasons you might suspect.

I hate it because it slows the game down.   "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks.  You can't target it.  Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.  

Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time.

As a tactical device, the cloak is neat.  As a game mechanic it makes the game less fun!

(IMHO)




 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:16:38 am
 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 08:24:14 am
Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:31:39 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

   




He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:35:11 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.






No, I mean I generally only post in the off topic forums.  Except bakc in the old days before there WAS an off topic forum!


 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:37:26 am
Quote:

 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger  




I do target the ship during the cloak-up and cloak-down periods.  But even so, I was in a long and protracted nebula battle last night against a virtually identical ship and it was getting really boring.  I knew I'd eventually wear it down but it took a while.

Thanks for the advice on the officer; I did not even know that this was the case.  I'll keep on the lookout for the right one!
 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:45:36 am
If i remember correctly, (brain cramp lol), the officer has to be level 4 or whatever the equal rank would be.
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 09:10:53 am
Quote:



He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

   




I'm more tired than i thought i was.

<makes another trip to coffee machine>  
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Byzantine on May 18, 2004, 06:26:33 pm
need good officer AND good 'puter
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 19, 2004, 06:13:39 am
That too(thxs byzantine)....you have to upgrade your computer in the refit section to at least level 3 i believe...might even be 4.  
Title: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 07:59:19 am

OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...

I just re-installed SFC 3 and have been playing the single player missions and I decided that I just hate the cloaking device.  But not for any of the reasons you might suspect.

I hate it because it slows the game down.   "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks.  You can't target it.  Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.  

Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time.

As a tactical device, the cloak is neat.  As a game mechanic it makes the game less fun!

(IMHO)




 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:16:38 am
 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 08:24:14 am
Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:31:39 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

   




He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:35:11 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.






No, I mean I generally only post in the off topic forums.  Except bakc in the old days before there WAS an off topic forum!


 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:37:26 am
Quote:

 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger  




I do target the ship during the cloak-up and cloak-down periods.  But even so, I was in a long and protracted nebula battle last night against a virtually identical ship and it was getting really boring.  I knew I'd eventually wear it down but it took a while.

Thanks for the advice on the officer; I did not even know that this was the case.  I'll keep on the lookout for the right one!
 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:45:36 am
If i remember correctly, (brain cramp lol), the officer has to be level 4 or whatever the equal rank would be.
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 09:10:53 am
Quote:



He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

   




I'm more tired than i thought i was.

<makes another trip to coffee machine>  
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Byzantine on May 18, 2004, 06:26:33 pm
need good officer AND good 'puter
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 19, 2004, 06:13:39 am
That too(thxs byzantine)....you have to upgrade your computer in the refit section to at least level 3 i believe...might even be 4.  
Title: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 07:59:19 am

OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...

I just re-installed SFC 3 and have been playing the single player missions and I decided that I just hate the cloaking device.  But not for any of the reasons you might suspect.

I hate it because it slows the game down.   "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks.  You can't target it.  Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.  

Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time.

As a tactical device, the cloak is neat.  As a game mechanic it makes the game less fun!

(IMHO)




 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:16:38 am
 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 08:24:14 am
Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:31:39 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.

   




He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:35:11 am
Quote:

Quote:


OK, normally I don't participate in anything but the off topic boards, so I am posting an actual Taldren game comment here instead!  Forgive me if this is not eKosher...
 




I doubt anyone will mind.

But let me say this....

1730 posts and you stay in the SFC forums?  

Thats alot of SFC posting.






No, I mean I generally only post in the off topic forums.  Except bakc in the old days before there WAS an off topic forum!


 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Scott Allen Abfalter on May 18, 2004, 08:37:26 am
Quote:

 
Quote:

 I hate it because it slows the game down. "Whiirrrrrrrr" ship decloaks. You can't target it. Now, basically, you just have to sit there waiting for it to decloak before you can continue on with the battle.
 




Yes you CAN target a decloaking (and cloaking) ship...its the most vulnerable time for the ship, where you can get in shots that normally the shields would stop.

 
Quote:

  Sure, it's a useful way to take yourself out of combat and get ready for a nice alpha strike, but really, that is not worth dragging a battle on and on and on because your opponent is cloaked half the time




Also, if you have the right personnel, you can perform Anti-Cloak scans, that render the cloak meaningless and you can attack the ship with its shields down.

I didnt mean to tear your post apart, but just wanted to correct those items

Tiger  




I do target the ship during the cloak-up and cloak-down periods.  But even so, I was in a long and protracted nebula battle last night against a virtually identical ship and it was getting really boring.  I knew I'd eventually wear it down but it took a while.

Thanks for the advice on the officer; I did not even know that this was the case.  I'll keep on the lookout for the right one!
 
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 18, 2004, 08:45:36 am
If i remember correctly, (brain cramp lol), the officer has to be level 4 or whatever the equal rank would be.
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Monty on May 18, 2004, 09:10:53 am
Quote:



He said he stays in the OT forums lol

Tiger

   




I'm more tired than i thought i was.

<makes another trip to coffee machine>  
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: Byzantine on May 18, 2004, 06:26:33 pm
need good officer AND good 'puter
Title: Re: Is SFC talk allowed here? I hate cloaks!
Post by: CFA_Admiral_Tige on May 19, 2004, 06:13:39 am
That too(thxs byzantine)....you have to upgrade your computer in the refit section to at least level 3 i believe...might even be 4.