Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on May 31, 2004, 06:29:05 pm
Post by: mc_cloud on June 01, 2004, 01:22:39 pm
Post by: Iceman on June 01, 2004, 03:06:37 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 01:38:54 pm
It did look like a turbo fan engine 
Post by: Javora on June 02, 2004, 04:46:43 pm
1. How does that turbo-fan thing fit into the case?
2. What is keeping the motherboard from breaking under the weight of that thing?
I would think at that point it would be safer to just run a water-cooling system instead of that crazy thing.
Wow... just... wow.
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Maybe a forced liquid nitrogen cooling system would really make them happy?
Post by: Capt. Mike on June 02, 2004, 07:09:25 pm
Mike
Post by: Dash Jones on June 02, 2004, 07:11:32 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 09:29:05 pm
One of the most boring jobs all us E1 ti E2 Airmen used to get was filling up the liquid oxygen bottles on the jets that would fly the next day, We used to throw bugs and any thing else we could catch into the over spill, So we could watch them freeze instantly when they hit it.
Gee when i think of all the stupid stuff i used to do as a kid it makes me wonder!!!
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on June 02, 2004, 10:08:23 pm
Quote:
Yee gads what would they need such a monstrosity as that? Have they overclocked their AMD that much...oh wait, it's a Pentium...you're right, it must be an airplane, Pentiums don't need that much cooling...
Pentiums DIDN'T need that much cooling. But now they do. Why do you think Intel is pushing the BTX motherboard? To cool the VERY hot Intel CPUs.
See chart below for more accurate (nearly) current information:
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Processor Model Frequency (MHz) Nominal Voltage Typical Thermal Power Maximum Thermal Power
Athlon 1400 (T-bird) 1400 1.75V 65 W 72 W
Athlon XP 3000+ (Barton)2167 1.65V 58.4 W 74.3 W
Athlon 64 3200+ 2000 1.5V +/- 70 W* 89 W
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz 3200 1.55 V 82 W +/- 103 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz EE 3200 1.55 V 81 W +/- 109 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz E 3200 1.3-1.5 V 103 W ?
Pentium 4 3 GHz E 3000 1.3 V 89 W ?
Note that the P4 3.2ghz E and the 3.0ghz E do not list maximimum thermal power as Intel no longer tells what it is. So at present AMD is the cool runner not Intel.
Something to note is that the E version is the newer Prescott core made at 90nm, which if the core had not been revised would have lowered the wattage. The performance did not increase compared to the older Northwood core (the EE is a Northwood core and cooler), in some tests it is slower. Even the northwood core is hotter than the Athlon 64.
When the Athlon 64 goes to 90nm it should cool down at a given speed.
I couldn't find wattage for the Pentium 4 3.4 ghz E or the just released Athlon 64 3800+. I expect the Pentium 4 to be even hotter but the Athlon 64 may be cooler (lower cache=fewer transisters and less heat, but higher memory bandwith in the 939 pin socket).
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on May 31, 2004, 06:29:05 pm
Post by: mc_cloud on June 01, 2004, 01:22:39 pm
Post by: Iceman on June 01, 2004, 03:06:37 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 01:38:54 pm
It did look like a turbo fan engine
Post by: Javora on June 02, 2004, 04:46:43 pm
1. How does that turbo-fan thing fit into the case?
2. What is keeping the motherboard from breaking under the weight of that thing?
I would think at that point it would be safer to just run a water-cooling system instead of that crazy thing.
Wow... just... wow.
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Maybe a forced liquid nitrogen cooling system would really make them happy?
Post by: Capt. Mike on June 02, 2004, 07:09:25 pm
Mike
Post by: Dash Jones on June 02, 2004, 07:11:32 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 09:29:05 pm
One of the most boring jobs all us E1 ti E2 Airmen used to get was filling up the liquid oxygen bottles on the jets that would fly the next day, We used to throw bugs and any thing else we could catch into the over spill, So we could watch them freeze instantly when they hit it.
Gee when i think of all the stupid stuff i used to do as a kid it makes me wonder!!!
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on June 02, 2004, 10:08:23 pm
Quote:
Yee gads what would they need such a monstrosity as that? Have they overclocked their AMD that much...oh wait, it's a Pentium...you're right, it must be an airplane, Pentiums don't need that much cooling...
Pentiums DIDN'T need that much cooling. But now they do. Why do you think Intel is pushing the BTX motherboard? To cool the VERY hot Intel CPUs.
See chart below for more accurate (nearly) current information:
Code:
Processor Model Frequency (MHz) Nominal Voltage Typical Thermal Power Maximum Thermal Power
Athlon 1400 (T-bird) 1400 1.75V 65 W 72 W
Athlon XP 3000+ (Barton)2167 1.65V 58.4 W 74.3 W
Athlon 64 3200+ 2000 1.5V +/- 70 W* 89 W
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz 3200 1.55 V 82 W +/- 103 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz EE 3200 1.55 V 81 W +/- 109 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz E 3200 1.3-1.5 V 103 W ?
Pentium 4 3 GHz E 3000 1.3 V 89 W ?
Note that the P4 3.2ghz E and the 3.0ghz E do not list maximimum thermal power as Intel no longer tells what it is. So at present AMD is the cool runner not Intel.
Something to note is that the E version is the newer Prescott core made at 90nm, which if the core had not been revised would have lowered the wattage. The performance did not increase compared to the older Northwood core (the EE is a Northwood core and cooler), in some tests it is slower. Even the northwood core is hotter than the Athlon 64.
When the Athlon 64 goes to 90nm it should cool down at a given speed.
I couldn't find wattage for the Pentium 4 3.4 ghz E or the just released Athlon 64 3800+. I expect the Pentium 4 to be even hotter but the Athlon 64 may be cooler (lower cache=fewer transisters and less heat, but higher memory bandwith in the 939 pin socket).
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on May 31, 2004, 06:29:05 pm
Post by: mc_cloud on June 01, 2004, 01:22:39 pm
Post by: Iceman on June 01, 2004, 03:06:37 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 01:38:54 pm
It did look like a turbo fan engine
Post by: Javora on June 02, 2004, 04:46:43 pm
1. How does that turbo-fan thing fit into the case?
2. What is keeping the motherboard from breaking under the weight of that thing?
I would think at that point it would be safer to just run a water-cooling system instead of that crazy thing.
Wow... just... wow.
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 04:57:09 pm
Maybe a forced liquid nitrogen cooling system would really make them happy?
Post by: Capt. Mike on June 02, 2004, 07:09:25 pm
Mike
Post by: Dash Jones on June 02, 2004, 07:11:32 pm
Post by: Ravok on June 02, 2004, 09:29:05 pm
One of the most boring jobs all us E1 ti E2 Airmen used to get was filling up the liquid oxygen bottles on the jets that would fly the next day, We used to throw bugs and any thing else we could catch into the over spill, So we could watch them freeze instantly when they hit it.
Gee when i think of all the stupid stuff i used to do as a kid it makes me wonder!!!
Post by: IKV Nemesis D7L on June 02, 2004, 10:08:23 pm
Quote:
Yee gads what would they need such a monstrosity as that? Have they overclocked their AMD that much...oh wait, it's a Pentium...you're right, it must be an airplane, Pentiums don't need that much cooling...
Pentiums DIDN'T need that much cooling. But now they do. Why do you think Intel is pushing the BTX motherboard? To cool the VERY hot Intel CPUs.
See chart below for more accurate (nearly) current information:
Code:
Processor Model Frequency (MHz) Nominal Voltage Typical Thermal Power Maximum Thermal Power
Athlon 1400 (T-bird) 1400 1.75V 65 W 72 W
Athlon XP 3000+ (Barton)2167 1.65V 58.4 W 74.3 W
Athlon 64 3200+ 2000 1.5V +/- 70 W* 89 W
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz 3200 1.55 V 82 W +/- 103 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz EE 3200 1.55 V 81 W +/- 109 W*
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz E 3200 1.3-1.5 V 103 W ?
Pentium 4 3 GHz E 3000 1.3 V 89 W ?
Note that the P4 3.2ghz E and the 3.0ghz E do not list maximimum thermal power as Intel no longer tells what it is. So at present AMD is the cool runner not Intel.
Something to note is that the E version is the newer Prescott core made at 90nm, which if the core had not been revised would have lowered the wattage. The performance did not increase compared to the older Northwood core (the EE is a Northwood core and cooler), in some tests it is slower. Even the northwood core is hotter than the Athlon 64.
When the Athlon 64 goes to 90nm it should cool down at a given speed.
I couldn't find wattage for the Pentium 4 3.4 ghz E or the just released Athlon 64 3800+. I expect the Pentium 4 to be even hotter but the Athlon 64 may be cooler (lower cache=fewer transisters and less heat, but higher memory bandwith in the 939 pin socket).