Post by: Thu11s on June 06, 2004, 12:24:59 pm
NCC-1944
USS Overlord
My little bit to commemorate 60 years since D-day, my little bit to never forget
It's a kitbash of Moonraker's Enterprise-B and P81's Excelsior ( as far as I can recall, please correct me if that's wrong). Full credits are given in the usual way in the credit.txt. If either Moonraker or P81 have objections to this release, let me know and I'll correct the problem
You can DOWNLOAD IT HERE
I use it as my CVA/SCS, but I guess you could use it as a DNG or whatever takes your fancy. really
Enjoy
Thu11s
Post by: Marauth on June 06, 2004, 12:43:57 pm
How u been dude, ages since you posted anything here.
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on June 06, 2004, 01:26:26 pm
Are you are going to release your Lyran DN today too? Please?
KF
Post by: Chrystoff on June 06, 2004, 03:05:09 pm
Post by: yeaterk on June 06, 2004, 03:42:15 pm
Post by: ModelsPlease on June 06, 2004, 03:50:49 pm
-MP
Post by: J. Carney on June 06, 2004, 07:51:53 pm
Post by: Rhaz on June 06, 2004, 09:19:09 pm
Welcome Back!
Post by: Rod O'neal on June 06, 2004, 09:59:03 pm
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Post by: Marauth on June 07, 2004, 11:07:43 am
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Great to see/hear from you again. Thank you so much for the model, and the good thoughts on the aniversary of what might well be the most important day in history. (Excluding religion. I don't want to go there.
Gonna get flamed for this but: What about El-Alemein? or Stalingrad? D-Day was not the turning point of the war, it was just when the allies decided to play catch-up with the russians and as a result millions of soldiers died trying to land in the most fortified part of Nazi europe when they could have continued the offensive in northern Italy and attacked France and Germany in their weaker (less-defended) southern areas.
*ducks*
I don't mean to belittle the sacrifice of those who died in the D-Day landings I just think we should remember the millions and millions of others who died in other less 'famous' battles in WWII aswell.
Post by: Thu11s on June 07, 2004, 11:35:57 am
Whilst El Alemein was certainly important for the British (and associated armies), it was part of a series of significant battles in North Africa that included Operation Torch, when the US invaded French colonies in North Africa.
As for the entire Russian front, that certainly has to have been some of the bloodiest fighting, Russian soldiers being sent forward in pairs, one with the gun and the other with the ammo
Stalingrad in particular was fierce because both Hitler and Stalin were obsessed with obtaining/keeping it. For Russia, the battle ot Prokhorovka (known as the Battle of Kursk) was certainly more significant that Starlingrad (tactically, if not for morale) as 800+ Russian tanks took on 600+ German tanks. Whatever side won would pretty much be open to push on into enemy territory. German tanks were better, but the greater number of Russian tanks won at the end of the day. Some Russian tank drivers took to ramming enemy tanks because they couldn't penetrate the armour on the Panthers and Tigers!! I think the Russians are a bit mad really 
but if it works....As far as invading elsewhere, Italy to me would seem a bit of a bottle neck and there are a big range of mountains in Northern Italy which would probably further hamper invasion efforts. Also, would there have been a sympathetic populous to the Allied cause as there was in France? As for other areas of France, it probably would have been impossible to maintain the element of surprise if several thousand ships go sailing around the coast, someone would notice
But as you say, D-Day was important, but not the be all and end all, just the most prominent moment of WW2 in our minds at the moment given the anniversary. I'm sure that'll change on VE day and VJ day
Thu11s
(spending to much time watching the History channel)
Post by: Marauth on June 07, 2004, 01:16:55 pm
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You got a point there. I think D-Day is considered so important because nothing on that scale had been tried before (and probably since). Whilst you can say every other battle is important and none should be forgotten, the whole invasion of Normandy I guess was/is considered 'the begining of the end' as far as the West is concerned.
Good point, and I agree.
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Whilst El Alemein was certainly important for the British (and associated armies), it was part of a series of significant battles in North Africa that included Operation Torch, when the US invaded French colonies in North Africa.
I mentioned this as it was the first major allied victory, I think Chuchill once said before El-Alemein we knew only defeat, after only victory.
As for the entire Russian front, that certainly has to have been some of the bloodiest fighting, Russian soldiers being sent forward in pairs, one with the gun and the other with the ammo
Stalingrad in particular was fierce because both Hitler and Stalin were obsessed with obtaining/keeping it. For Russia, the battle ot Prokhorovka (known as the Battle of Kursk) was certainly more significant that Starlingrad (tactically, if not for morale) as 800+ Russian tanks took on 600+ German tanks. Whatever side won would pretty much be open to push on into enemy territory. German tanks were better, but the greater number of Russian tanks won at the end of the day. Some Russian tank drivers took to ramming enemy tanks because they couldn't penetrate the armour on the Panthers and Tigers!! I think the Russians are a bit mad really but if it works....Same with Stalingrad - the turning point where the Germans could no longer push forward, though not many know, they were a few kilometres outside Moskva and Stalin even abandoned his capital!
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As far as invading elsewhere, Italy to me would seem a bit of a bottle neck and there are a big range of mountains in Northern Italy which would probably further hamper invasion efforts. Also, would there have been a sympathetic populous to the Allied cause as there was in France? As for other areas of France, it probably would have been impossible to maintain the element of surprise if several thousand ships go sailing around the coast, someone would notice
I mention Italy as they were already in Roma (or around there) when the D-Day landings took place so if they'd used the D-Day troops in that theatre aswell I don't think the small German army there could have resisted for very long. The alps have several mountain passes in the west that are easy to navigate plus there is the ligurian coastline they could have used. The populace and the armed forces were all VERY pro-ally, the resistance in Italy (though they were dirty communists) were probably more trustworthy than the French resistance ever were.
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But as you say, D-Day was important, but not the be all and end all, just the most prominent moment of WW2 in our minds at the moment given the anniversary. I'm sure that'll change on VE day and VJ day
Thu11s
(spending to much time watching the History channel)
I hear ya man on the History channel, I stopped watching when I realised every program near enough was WWII or Nazis or the occassional Stalin
No variety.
Post by: Kaenyne on June 08, 2004, 09:20:52 am