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Title: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Th_B on June 25, 2004, 07:15:31 am

I understand that this place was created by the hopes and aspirations of a small group of SFC'er's, but it's not the "official" new forums as far as I know.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Sethan on June 25, 2004, 07:55:33 am

Given that this is the place Erik Bethke told us would be the new Forums, I suspect you are wrong.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Abfalter on June 25, 2004, 08:41:09 am

I'm on the fence. 

My first reaction is that these are not the "official" forums because Taldren is not providing them.  They are, instead, the 'de facto' forums.

On the other hand, Erik did post that these would be the new forums; so if that constitutes an _endorsement_ by Taldren then I could see an argument that these are "official".

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Doppler on June 25, 2004, 09:34:19 am

Call it what you want , but seeing the names in the members list its the only board will need  ;)

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Javora on June 25, 2004, 10:14:17 am

So what happened or whats going on over at Taldren anyway???

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Gambler on June 25, 2004, 02:22:32 pm

Quote from: Javora on June 25, 2004, 10:14:17 am

So what happened or whats going on over at Taldren anyway???

Where you been man?  You missed out on all the fun!

The Readers Digest version is that Taldren-California is no more.  Kaput, gonzo, washed up, shut down.  Which means the boards are down.  Theoretically some of the boards may be moved to Taldren-Korea.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Ultraprophet on June 25, 2004, 03:52:34 pm

Quote from: Doppler on June 25, 2004, 09:34:19 am

Call it what you want , but seeing the names in the members list its the only board will need  ;)

 Here, here!

I think this place will do just fine . I'll still support Taldren , but nowadays I just need a place to shoot the bull, hollar at conservatives , and have holes poked in my own fuzzy logic by smart folks on the other side of the aisle.  I like all these folks, even the ones I dont like ;D

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: MarianoDT on June 25, 2004, 03:55:03 pm

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Theoretically some of the boards may be moved to Taldren-Korea.

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It looks that it is not going to happend in the short term, if so, why bother transfering the old database.
Anyways, it is good to see all the great effort put into this forums so as to letting us keep posting!!!

Thank you,

Mariano

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Grim on June 25, 2004, 04:09:05 pm

Give it some time i am sure it will eventually grow on everyone.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: DOA-Unseen on June 25, 2004, 04:24:29 pm

Quote from: Doppler on June 25, 2004, 09:34:19 am

Call it what you want , but seeing the names in the members list its the only board will need  ;)

I agreed by just looking at the members list the last two day tells me this is the place to be  :P . If not here were ?

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Ravok on June 25, 2004, 04:54:15 pm

Quote from: DOA-Unseen on June 25, 2004, 04:24:29 pm

Quote from: Doppler on June 25, 2004, 09:34:19 am

Call it what you want , but seeing the names in the members list its the only board will need  ;)

I agreed by just looking at the members list the last two day tells me this is the place to be  :P . If not here were ?

Just seeing all the old names pop up is a comfort in a small way. I wonder how many people changed their names?

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: KBF-Crim on June 25, 2004, 07:50:29 pm

Well....Atra did for one...didnt ya thex ;)

Posted by Atra on SFC2.net....

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Hi Tracey,

Congratulations on the new forum, but you do realize that it was approved to be only a temporary place? I'm mentioning this because people there seem to be under the wrong impression that it's the new "official" site, even the moderators. I don't know how they could've gotten that impression.

We now give you the dancing spam

:spam: :iamwithstupid: :troll: :lame: :spam: :ban: :spam: :lol: :spam: :iamwithstupid: :spam: :stopposting: :spam:

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Musashi NCC-BR549 on June 25, 2004, 07:55:13 pm

Somebody make Crim stop.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: kmelew on June 25, 2004, 08:19:22 pm

Like anything else, it will take a little time to get used to for me--but that's half the fun!

I am looking forward to these forums!

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Brush Wolf on June 25, 2004, 08:53:49 pm

Quote from: Musashi on June 25, 2004, 07:55:13 pm

Somebody make Crim stop.

Stop Crim? that is like trying to stop the sun from rising.  ;D

I does look like most eveyone has made the move over as I see lots of familiar names plus those of us that went for new handles such as myself.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: KBF-Crim on June 26, 2004, 12:53:17 am

Quote from: Musashi on June 25, 2004, 07:55:13 pm

Somebody make Crim stop.

Heh...put a blanket over my cage , I'll  get real quiet and go to sleep... :-*

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Rota on June 26, 2004, 01:05:06 am

Considering we're all here, and we're all having fun, it becomes official all on it's own   :carmen:

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Ravok on June 26, 2004, 11:01:48 am

 Not to metion the link directing us here, From Taldrens home page. :iamwithstupid:
 

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Dash Jones on June 26, 2004, 11:38:05 am

Quote from: Ravok on June 26, 2004, 11:01:48 am

Not to metion the link directing us here, From Taldrens home page. :iamwithstupid:
 

Had to go and check to make sure.  You're right, there is a note pointing people in this general direction...

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Th_B on June 28, 2004, 07:04:24 am

Quote from: Dash Jones on June 26, 2004, 11:38:05 am

Quote from: Ravok on June 26, 2004, 11:01:48 am

Not to metion the link directing us here, From Taldrens home page. :iamwithstupid:
 

Had to go and check to make sure.  You're right, there is a note pointing people in this general direction...

I agree that this place has the potential to be a new thing in its own right, but the fact is that it's not the official new site...Taldren's original arrangement with this site was to house the old posts and to be a temporary place for people to meet until the new server is up. Why give this place all the old posts, you ask? Because none of the history of the old forums will matter at the new place. There has been no post by Erik or anyone else which endorses this place as thew new official site, as some people are claiming. In fact, towards the last hours of the Taldren boards, Taldren was deleting posts made by people from this site who were giving the mistaken impression that this site was the new official one.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: MrCue on June 28, 2004, 07:06:30 am

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Taldren was deleting posts made by people from this site who were giving the mistaken impression that this site was the new official one.

Wrong, taldren was deleting posts made by Watertiger (and banned him) for spamming that the STCD was the new home.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Grim on June 28, 2004, 07:17:54 am

Look Taldren points to here, i saw posts by Taldren admins saying this would be the place.

And a large portion of the community is here, based on this it looks like this is the place.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Th_B on June 28, 2004, 07:24:03 am

Quote from: Grim on June 28, 2004, 07:17:54 am

Look Taldren points to here, i saw posts by Taldren admins saying this would be the place.

And a large portion of the community is here, based on this it looks like this is the place.

Guys, I really don't think this is the official new place...it's maybe the official temporary fill, but it seems like the announcement at Taldren is asking people to WAIT until their new servers are up, and direct people here as a temporary site. And as for posts by anyone at Taldren saying that this is the new official place (as people here are claiming), I'd like to see such posts....because as far as I know there aren't any.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Chris SI on June 28, 2004, 07:48:30 am

This is what the Taldren site says:

The Taldren forums are being moved to another server and this process may take a few days.
Please check back with us again.
The posts here in the Taldren SFC forums have been provided to www.dynaverse.net to keep the history of the community going. We wish you all clear skies and smooth sailing.
~The Taldren Team

It doesn't say that a new taldren forum would support SFC, in fact, by the wording, it inferes a new begining, sans SFC.
I suppose we will have to wait and see, but it would seem to be really stupid to close a forum, turn over the info to another forum, than reopen and expect everyone to just move back and forth.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: The Bar-Abbas Anomaly on June 28, 2004, 10:17:56 am

Quote from: Th_B on June 28, 2004, 07:24:03 am

Quote from: Grim on June 28, 2004, 07:17:54 am

Look Taldren points to here, i saw posts by Taldren admins saying this would be the place.

And a large portion of the community is here, based on this it looks like this is the place.

Guys, I really don't think this is the official new place...it's maybe the official temporary fill, but it seems like the announcement at Taldren is asking people to WAIT until their new servers are up, and direct people here as a temporary site. And as for posts by anyone at Taldren saying that this is the new official place (as people here are claiming), I'd like to see such posts....because as far as I know there aren't any.

What's "Official"?  If a majority of SFC Players and Taldrenites adopt this forum as 'home', doesn't that make it Official enough?

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385 on June 28, 2004, 11:14:48 am

Quote from: Ravok on June 25, 2004, 04:54:15 pm

Just seeing all the old names pop up is a comfort in a small way. I wonder how many people changed their names?

Some did. 8)

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: FVA_C_ Blade_ XC on June 28, 2004, 11:17:05 am

Quote from: Th_B on June 28, 2004, 07:24:03 am

Quote from: Grim on June 28, 2004, 07:17:54 am

Look Taldren points to here, i saw posts by Taldren admins saying this would be the place.

And a large portion of the community is here, based on this it looks like this is the place.

Guys, I really don't think this is the official new place...it's maybe the official temporary fill, but it seems like the announcement at Taldren is asking people to WAIT until their new servers are up, and direct people here as a temporary site. And as for posts by anyone at Taldren saying that this is the new official place (as people here are claiming), I'd like to see such posts....because as far as I know there aren't any.

Well perhaps you should stop thinking,clearly you are not up to it.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet- on June 28, 2004, 11:26:20 am

Quote from: MrCue on June 28, 2004, 07:06:30 am

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Taldren was deleting posts made by people from this site who were giving the mistaken impression that this site was the new official one.

Wrong, taldren was deleting posts made by Watertiger (and banned him) for spamming that the STCD was the new home.

To set the record straight here, since you brought it up, Cue -- and innaccurately, I might add.

STGD NEVER, EVER said we were the "new home." We offered a place to meet if Bethke pulled the plug.

I challenge you to pull the thread -- it was never said. Ann and I spoke about this on TeamSpeak, and she also conceeded that.

See, all this effort was done behind the scenes; those "in the know" knew, but the last time we talked the Frey, SFC3 was an afterthought.

The Bethke information was taken from H&S by SirGod, and posted in SFCII Experiances. I simply posted information in the General Forum for a place to meet if the plug got pulled, fast.

This forum was opened one week early due to Bethke's early announcement, which none of you apparently predicted.

Bethke had PM'd me the night of the so-called "spam" and said ALL the boards would be shutting down. Meanwhile, posters were in denial, so I shipped that PM to others.

Cue, with due respect, get your facts straight and stop trying to discredit the STGD.

We have offered a place to go when the plug got pulled, and NEVER, EVER said we were the "official" home of anything but Trek fans.

Thank you for your time.

<S>

WaterTiger

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet- on June 28, 2004, 11:41:39 am

P.S.

The STGD has "officially" endorsed this site, linked it and told others through the network to join here. I could provide you with several links, if you need them.

I work for the STGD, "officially."

Should you continue to discredit an organization -- Star Trek Gamers Directory -- that was here before Taldren was even making Trek games, we will have no choice but to pull support.

The Taldren closing has been a difficult time for all, but your disinformation campaign with the STGD makes dynaverse.net look bad.

We have chosen to take a higher road. Can you?

Again, thank you for your time -- and again, good luck with this site.

<S>

WaterTiger

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:42:53 am

Cue,

You should have transfered EVERYTHING over from Taldren, not just the old posts!!! :rofl:

:troll:

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet- on June 28, 2004, 11:44:08 am

Quote from: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:42:53 am

Cue,

You should have transfered EVERYTHING over from Taldren, not just the old posts!!! :rofl:

:troll:

And so it begins.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:49:11 am

From DOA-SpectreMist

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"What difference does it make"  Keep your panties on and The people (or former people) at Taldren will Announce the OFFICAL site until then this is the OFFICAL place to talk." 

Is there some reason you are make a bigger deal than it is?


What brought on all this BS in the first place, and why?

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet- on June 28, 2004, 11:51:40 am

Quote from: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:49:11 am

From DOA-SpectreMist

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"What difference does it make"  Keep your panties on and The people (or former people) at Taldren will Announce the OFFICAL site until then this is the OFFICAL place to talk." 

Is there some reason you are make a bigger deal than it is?


What brought on all this BS in the first place, and why?

Is there some reason you are allowed to create angst where there isn't any?

Keep it up Kane.

 :stopposting:

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:59:48 am

Quote from: WaterTiger on June 28, 2004, 11:51:40 am

Quote from: Kane on June 28, 2004, 11:49:11 am

From DOA-SpectreMist

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"What difference does it make"  Keep your panties on and The people (or former people) at Taldren will Announce the OFFICAL site until then this is the OFFICAL place to talk." 

Is there some reason you are make a bigger deal than it is?


What brought on all this BS in the first place, and why?

Is there some reason you are allowed to create angst where there isn't any?

Keep it up Kane.

 :stopposting:

 :lame:

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Wildcard on June 28, 2004, 12:00:04 pm

Well I happen to know that IOGC.net offered to host the entire Taldren forum's in their original content. They offered to move the entire database to IOGC and let them be hosted there as they "originally" are or were. Why Taldren did not opt to keep there forums intact is beyond me. Allthough this new site looks like Taldren it is not Taldren. Taldren is closing and moving to Korea. Call the Fat Lady it is over. We might as well do with what we have even though it is not what we are used to.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Rota on June 28, 2004, 12:00:19 pm

Not to steal thunder, but I think most of the replies were aimed at the person who started this thread and continues to question as to if this place is "official" or not.It must be, as the original poster continues to visit. ;D

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet- on June 28, 2004, 12:02:07 pm

In the best interest of the "community", I have PM'd two moderators to have this thread locked.

We are headed down a road I don't think we need to revisit.

<S>

WaterTiger

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: Fluf on June 28, 2004, 12:17:25 pm

Ok people, lets chill here.

Here are the facts:

1. This is the "Official SFC" site.  Erik authorized transfering the Taldren DB to this site in order that SFC survive.  If Erik wants to start his own Taldren Korea forums at some point in the future, that is his business and I hope he does.  However, as most of you know, Erik spent most of his time in the Hot&Spicy forums for the last year of the Taldren forums.  He might elect to start his own Taldren Hot&Spicey forums in Korea, although since we have these here, and he is a member of the site, he really doesnt need too.  

2.  The Dynaverse Gaming Group appreciates what the STGD did in attempting to provide a place to go if Taldren went down.  They didnt know that we already had things in place to do this, and would be transfering the Taldren Forums here.  I salute them for being concerned enough about the SFC community for doing this.  Once they were informed of the transfer, they have been very supportive, and we salute this.

Title: Re: Awesome attempt, but it's not the official new forums
Post by: pixelcr8er on June 28, 2004, 06:51:23 pm

Well, I for one am happy that the community has jumped all over this new forum.

As stated earlier in this thread I, with the permission from all of the founders of Taldren, worked with Dynaverse.net to get as many of the old posts from our forums over here for one purpose...So that the community could have a new home. These forums do replace the Taldren forums in the sense that there is no Taldren forum now and this forum has it's old posts.

Some day Erik may choose to do something again for Taldren Korea but he would never EVER want the community to be put on hold until he can. He also would NEVER keep the community form feeling at home here by telling them not to settle in and create roots because he is going to try and uproot them again someday. If and when he puts his new forums up they will be an alternative to these forums and yes, they technically would be the Taldren forums so there is some truth in saying that these are not the "new Taldren Forums". BUT ...does it matter if these forums are be called the New Taldren Forums by some people or even "the New home for the old posts of the Taldren forums", The Newest SFC forums or maybe even simply Bob? As many people have already figured out, the old Taldren posts are here and so are a great deal of the old members...so lets get on with getting over the name thing ok?

Ann
(Taldren_Admin)