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Title: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 8/1/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 05, 2004, 12:58:00 am
Well, almost finished with the Tholian, and had the modeling bug, so started another one from my list of projects. I know it's not a great representation, but since I mostly do Feds, I'm liking the way it's turning out. :) Let me know what you think.
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha1b.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha1c.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: markyd on July 05, 2004, 11:32:44 am
Looks great so far....

I started working on a Vorcha varient the other day too.. so when I post it im not stealing ur ideas.. in fact it doesnt look anything like your model..

But yeah.. looks great so far!!! ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Kaenyne on July 05, 2004, 11:44:23 am
A very good model, IMHO. Wanna see more...
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Sandman3D on July 05, 2004, 01:56:46 pm
Thanx guys!! :D

I'm starting to get into splines and shapemerge and so on, and this looked like a good model to do....tried the K'Tinga, but can't seem to get it right. :banghead: I don't use templates in the viewports, I just eye-ball it, so that's probably the reason, lol. :P But, eventually, I want to do a high poly Constitution Enterprise...I'm talking HIGH!! :P Definitely not game size....100,00 polies+. :rwoot: Every detail modelled....Oh the dream!! ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: markyd on July 05, 2004, 02:13:59 pm
high eh... sounds like fun.....



    oh... and time consuming..     cant wait 2 see it!!!
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: MarianoDT on July 05, 2004, 03:36:26 pm
Quote from: Sandman3D on July 05, 2004, 01:56:46 pm
Thanx guys!! :D

I'm starting to get into splines and shapemerge and so on, and this looked like a good model to do....tried the K'Tinga, but can't seem to get it right. :banghead: I don't use templates in the viewports, I just eye-ball it, so that's probably the reason, lol. :P


hehe, I know the feeling.
Did you get the loftandsplinecage tutorial from http://www.scifi-meshes.com/ ?
It is very good for a start.
Ah, BTW, thanks for you video tut thread.!!!

Mariano
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Red_Green on July 05, 2004, 05:47:04 pm
Looks great, cant wait to see it to completion.
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Sandman3D on July 06, 2004, 02:03:15 pm
OK, did a little more detailing. Thanx go out to WZ for sending me some great ref pics. :thumbsup:

Was wondering, should I do the hull paneling all over, or just on the wings and goom? She stands at about 2800 polies right now, and I haven't even done the nacelles yet. :P Let me know what you think.
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: MarianoDT on July 06, 2004, 02:46:51 pm
Its looking great!!!
I suggest you do the nacelles and then check again the poly count.

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Mariano
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: markyd on July 06, 2004, 03:33:08 pm
 ;D ;Dlooking cool sandman really cool ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: kingconstantine on July 06, 2004, 06:07:03 pm
jezz dude your cuming on leeps n bounds, i bow to you now
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on July 06, 2004, 11:41:28 pm
Just when I think canon TNG Klingon ships can't get any better you crank out this!

Well done.

KF
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Sandman3D on July 07, 2004, 12:42:39 pm
OK, added the nacelles, and, well, I don't this will be game friendly. :P 11,512 polies, and I'm not done. :P Oh well, it's still a fun model to do, and hopefully will look good in renders. ;) Let me know what you think...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha3a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha3b.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcha3c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: MarianoDT on July 07, 2004, 01:16:10 pm
 :o :o :o
It looks awesome!!!!

Great work  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Mariano
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm
OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good! :P Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test. ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Kane on July 08, 2004, 01:11:34 pm
Quote from: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm
OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good! :P Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test. ;D

What the hell did you do to make it have 12K polies?
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: battlestar001 on July 08, 2004, 02:20:58 pm
fantastip ship. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 03:41:37 pm
Quote from: Kane on July 08, 2004, 01:11:34 pm
Quote from: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm
OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good! :P Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test. ;D

What the hell did you do to make it have 12K polies?
Well, like I said, it was a test...a test of Splines and Shapemerge. I can get it down around 7,500-8,000 by Optimizing the mesh, but there are a few errors that can't easily be removed. :P All that mesh detailing eats up polies...that's why most of use textures to simulate the details. ::)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP
Post by: Darkdrone on July 08, 2004, 03:44:56 pm
looking great man really looking good

DD
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 10:23:10 pm
OK, made another mesh, this time without all the details. This mesh is only 1,799 polies...pretty good. ;) I'm going to start texturing as soon as I get done here...have a new Klingon Base texture I want to try...made it myself even, lol. ;D Let me know what you think...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low1a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low1b.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low1c.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Kane on July 08, 2004, 10:47:53 pm
Thats more like it.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 11:29:33 pm
OK, here's a little of the texturing...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low2a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: markyd on July 09, 2004, 01:02:07 am
Big thumbs up man.... mutch better ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 09, 2004, 12:49:52 pm
Bump for opinions....
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 09, 2004, 01:41:03 pm
OK, well here's a little more...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low3a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Wicked Zombie on July 09, 2004, 03:57:27 pm
Looking damn good so far.
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 09, 2004, 04:41:11 pm
Thanx WZ!!! ;D Those ref.'s helped alot...the ones I had found didn't show the bottom. :lame: I still have a lot of detailing to do on the high poly mesh...probably going to go over 20,000 polies by the time I'm done. :P

This (textured) version was a lot easier to make after doing the high poly one...might have to do that more often, lol. :lol: How's the base texture look? Is it the right shade of grey/green?

Anyway, thanx again!! ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Grim Reaper on July 09, 2004, 06:29:27 pm
Well perhaps you could borrow some things / take some pointers from this modeler's creation:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14207&highlight=Vorcha

(It might be that the pix don't show if you aren't a member. Trust me, this ship alone is worth joining and there are many like it to be found there)

Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Wicked Zombie on July 09, 2004, 07:20:48 pm
The textures look good so far, I think the only thing they really need is a bit more blue/green in the base color. Also, there are two versions of the Vorcha, one for TNG and one for DS9. The only major difference is the DS9 version has red paneling and a slightly darker hull.
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: kingconstantine on July 09, 2004, 07:23:26 pm
man she looks fantastic.  i would suggest a lil more green in the texture.  but ill probably kick myself for sugesting it then shes done
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 10, 2004, 10:31:41 am
Thanx guys...I thought it was a little light, but wasn't sure...the pics of the studio model are really light. :P

Red paneling?...Hmmm, maybe... ;)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED MESH***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 11, 2004, 11:00:56 am
Just a quickie update...gonna do a little more today, but not much as I'm trying to get my site updated. :P Thanx for the support, and stay tuned...
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 11, 2004, 01:17:08 pm
OK, have all the zips uploaded and needed to do something else, so I did a little more texturing. ;D Made the base a little darker/greener also...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low4a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low4b.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: markyd on July 11, 2004, 02:20:24 pm
Gets better and better.... thanks for the rolloing update shots... very cool to follow!!!
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 11, 2004, 02:56:59 pm
Thanx!! ;D

I do the updates because I know it helped me when I started out to see this kind of stuff...plus, suggestions and advice are always welcome. ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 11, 2004, 11:45:02 pm
What's this doing so close to the bottom?

:dance: BUMP!!!!! :dance:
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Grim Reaper on July 13, 2004, 07:35:12 am
No idea
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 15, 2004, 12:07:28 am
Just a quick note to let you know what's up... I'm back at work, after being out for a couple of weeks due toa back injury, and we just started a very big sales event, so haven't really had the time or inclination after work to do any more, but, I will probably get a chance to do a little tomorrow after work. :P

Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***PICS UPDATED 7/11/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 21, 2004, 02:18:22 pm
OK, here's a look at my progress so far...not much due to my hand, but also this ship has a lot of little details, so there's a lot of mapping to do. Anyway, here's a pic...
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low5a.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/21/04***
Post by: Grim Reaper on July 21, 2004, 03:04:40 pm
Very Nice!

I'd love to have skills like yours or WZ's. All i have ever managed to create is a 4 nacelled version of 9 of 9's Negh'Var. And she needs massive optimising me thinks
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/21/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 21, 2004, 03:10:51 pm
Thanx!! ;D

Though I appreciate the sentiment, I don't deserve to labelled in the same class as WZ. ;)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/21/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 26, 2004, 01:07:43 pm
OK, a little more done, starting to really look like a real ship, lol.
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low6a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low6b.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/26/04***
Post by: OlBuzzard on July 26, 2004, 01:47:38 pm
Sandman...  just my opinion..  but some of your best work todate !!

keep up the good job sir !

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/26/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 26, 2004, 02:08:34 pm
Thank you, Old One. :notworthy: J/K!!! ;D

Really though, thanx...maybe my hand is helping me with this, cause I'm able to only do a little at a time, so I'm able to get the detailing right, rather than hurry and get it out to da public, lol.
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 28, 2004, 01:59:28 pm
OK, almost finished with him (Klinks call their ships "him" rather than "her"), just need to do the "head". Whatcha think?
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low7a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low7b.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vor_low7c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: markyd on July 28, 2004, 04:23:34 pm
Looking great... really good!!!!
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 28, 2004, 06:23:53 pm
Thanx, Markyd! ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Khalee on July 28, 2004, 09:41:16 pm
looks like its coming along nicely.
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 28, 2004, 10:26:56 pm
Thanx!! ;D

I hope to have it done by the weekend...at least before monday, don't want distractions monday...b-day. ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: OlBuzzard on July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am
hehehe   ripe old age of ...  hmmm  35 ???

:multi: :multi:
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sapharite on July 30, 2004, 08:10:49 am
Sandman don't forget to mark her disruptors and forward/aft torpedoe launchers on the textures. I'll find you some data on them :)

Take care :)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on July 30, 2004, 08:49:11 am
Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am
hehehe   ripe old age of ...  hmmm  35 ???

:multi: :multi:
Actually, it's 36 ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: OlBuzzard on July 30, 2004, 10:57:17 am
Quote from: Sandman3D on July 30, 2004, 08:49:11 am
Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am
hehehe   ripe old age of ...  hmmm  35 ???

:multi: :multi:
Actually, it's 36 ;D

COOL  !!    Now get to work so you can enjoy the comming celebrations !!

Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: markyd on July 30, 2004, 11:16:41 am
Pics show me pics.... ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: OlBuzzard on July 30, 2004, 06:45:05 pm
Quote from: markyd on July 30, 2004, 11:16:41 am
Pics show me pics.... ;D

yeah !!   What he said !! We'll   just wait 'til she's done !

 :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 7/28/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on August 01, 2004, 12:14:17 pm
OK, here's the final look before release...how is he?
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcomp1a.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcomp1b.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcomp1c.jpg)
(http://www.sandman3d.com/images2/vorcomp1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 8/1/04***
Post by: Sapharite on August 01, 2004, 01:47:31 pm
Well she is nice but you should make her disruptor guns and torpedo launchers and deflector (forward). The second thing is that I haven't seen her aft... What about her aft. She should have small aft disruptor turrets like the K'Tinga has (at least some balls there aft headed) and a Torpedo Launcher... Do you wan't some data on the Vor'cha weapons?? I can get you such quick. Just let me know know. She is a very nice ships you have made but she need such small adjustments to be even grater of gratest Vor'chas made here ;)

Keep going man and take care :) I'll be continuesly monitoring this forums for your answer... :)

Take care man  ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 8/1/04***
Post by: Sandman3D on August 01, 2004, 01:59:49 pm
Thanx!!

Uhh, the schematics I have don't show torp tubes or more disruptors (they're Jackills schematics BTW), or any of the screenshots/model pics (thanx again WZ for the pics). If you're going by the stuff at DITL, there is some discrepencies in what they report and what is actually known about the ships. I'm getting ready to release her as is, but if you send me the stuff and enough people agree, I'll do a version 2. ;D
Title: Re: Vorcha WIP ***UPDATED 8/1/04***
Post by: markyd on August 01, 2004, 02:17:05 pm
 ;D Love it nice piece of work there Sandman.... very nice..