This is not good.
What can we do? J'inn?!!!!
Seriously, have you spoke with J'inn about it?
I have been told it will be handled.
I have been told it will be handled.
I hope so.
I would hate to have to take the Rolling Pin over there on your behalf.... but I will if needed.
You've worked to long and hard on this and I would stand up for you.
Stephen is right. Check with a lawyer and since you are a Canuck, what ever you guys call your copyright office.
They should be able to help.
Glad these guys are gonna straighten out their act.
[url]http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod[/url]That site is down and I tried twice.
Please go voice your displeasure. Make them understand.
-- Luc
posted
It would be appreciated if you would consider changing the name of your mod to something more suitable and something that eventually you can take pride in developing.
The OPPLUS mod that firesoul has been working on for the past 2 years (and yes he continues to work on it daily), has been developed with a certain vision in mind. To make the shiplist more to ADB's SFB standards.
It has even been featured in Captain's Log #29, which incidentally proves firesoul's claim to the name of the mod, a great boost to the Dynaverse.
Now, if you wish to take over the name, not only will you suffer the flames of the community that you are puportedly trying to assist, but you are also cheating yourself out of being able to take pride in something that you have created.
This project is yours and should bear your own unique mark, your own name, so that you may get your own recognition.
Firesoul is proud to know that someone appreciates his work well enough to use it as a base for their projects. And he even encourages it, for it does support and expand the community in many ways.
Again, I ask that you choose a more suitable name for your mod. I know my home life would be easier.
Firesoul's son would also appreciate it. Makes my job of keeping them both happy easier if you do.
Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.
Samantha/Astarte
I really think this can be handled with a cool, intellectual head.
No..but you can go shower and we can do something non-computer related. *smiles*
No..but you can go shower and we can do something non-computer related. *smiles*
I'm curious as to who this was directed to. LOL!!!!!
No..but you can go shower and we can do something non-computer related. *smiles*
I'm curious as to who this was directed to. LOL!!!!!
Samantha.. Astarte.. is my significant other who has to deal with a bitchy me these last 2 days..
.. shower it is.. :D
I'll make a post on that link... Cap'n smack to the rescue... :D
I'll make a post on that link... Cap'n smack to the rescue... :D
OH GOD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Dizzy!!! Come back here!!!!
You have absolutely no diplomatic skills!!!!!
Hey guys.
Can't we handle this a little more diplomatic so we don't appear as bad peoples?
I really think this can be handled with a cool, intellectual head. That would make them more acceptive of the change.
Yes, they are wrong, but that gives us no right to create a rift.
Got me?
Show me how a mature male can handle it.
OK, I'll go over and clear things up. ;P
Hey guys.
Can't we handle this a little more diplomatic so we don't appear as bad peoples?
I really think this can be handled with a cool, intellectual head. That would make them more acceptive of the change.
Yes, they are wrong, but that gives us no right to create a rift.
Got me?
Show me how a mature male can handle it.
Quoted from Morpheous.....
But after all consideration we did modify the name to WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on.
Thats about as far as I am going to change it, just because of the fact. If you fly Federation in either my mod or firesouls mod it is still the 3.3 and I will not take that from him. I will not claim the original 8 races as my own, like everybody is suggesting. So this will be the name of it WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on and thats the end of this descussion.
Kim, he changed his mind after I made my scathing threat of intent to make his life miserable. I dont know if any of you had a chance to read my post b4 he deleted it, and others, but I laid it down on him so hard... it was worthy of the flames of old... You'd have been proud had you been around back in the glory days of flaming.
Really... too bad my post is gone. It was one of my best to date.
Anyhows, mission accomplished. Nice we can all use our collective wits together to help one of our own.
You're a bunch of babies!!!!
You're a bunch of babies!!!!
Goo-goo
I actually was nice!!
We do not know each other, so let me tell you a little about myself.
I am from the Dynaverse.net forums, which used to be the Taldren forums.
I have been playing online and have been a member of the SSCF fleet for 2.5 years.
I have, also, been using the Firesoul OP+ since the beginning of it's birth.
Please don't think bad of the ones who posted in anger or frustration due to the fact that you are using Firesoul's OP+ name.
I think if you will sit back, and imagine yourself in his shoes, you will begin to understand the urgency of our petition.
We employ you to consider what has happened here. Firesoul has given you permission to go forward with adding on to his OP+, but would like for you to rename your creation.
You are not Firesoul, and you need to uphold your artwork as your own. This will be benificial for you as the creator of the add on. This will be your baby.
We thank you for your reconsideration. Please understand we want you to succeed in your progress.
Sincerely,
Kimberly
Rolling the Mod was design to help the community from dieing as the SFC2 community did. Not that anybody is stealing anybodys stuff. As you said we where given permission to modify the opplus 3.3, just because the name wasn't descussed with anybody doesn't make us thieves in No way ( because we had permission ).
On the other hand it seems that people are only interested in seeing the name of things and thats it. People need to remember that this is SFC not SFB. The community is about 30 strong on a good night. People can not sit and wait for a select few to do things that not all in the community is behind. Without people playing a game FireSoul can mod all he wants, but if nobody is left in the lobby to play it whats the point?
But after all consideration we did modify the name to WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on.
Thats about as far as I am going to change it, just because of the fact. If you fly Federation in either my mod or firesouls mod it is still the 3.3 and I will not take that from him. I will not claim the original 8 races as my own, like everybody is suggesting. So this will be the name of it WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on and thats the end of this descussion.
You people on the Dynaverse.net can choke on your own pride for I care and instead of thinking of the just a name of something look at the bigger picture of the community trying to save the gaming lobby.
QuoteRolling the Mod was design to help the community from dieing as the SFC2 community did. Not that anybody is stealing anybodys stuff. As you said we where given permission to modify the opplus 3.3, just because the name wasn't descussed with anybody doesn't make us thieves in No way ( because we had permission ).
On the other hand it seems that people are only interested in seeing the name of things and thats it. People need to remember that this is SFC not SFB. The community is about 30 strong on a good night. People can not sit and wait for a select few to do things that not all in the community is behind. Without people playing a game FireSoul can mod all he wants, but if nobody is left in the lobby to play it whats the point?
But after all consideration we did modify the name to WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on.
Thats about as far as I am going to change it, just because of the fact. If you fly Federation in either my mod or firesouls mod it is still the 3.3 and I will not take that from him. I will not claim the original 8 races as my own, like everybody is suggesting. So this will be the name of it WGLOP+ 7Races Add-on and thats the end of this descussion.
You people on the Dynaverse.net can choke on your own pride for I care and instead of thinking of the just a name of something look at the bigger picture of the community trying to save the gaming lobby.
The full reply from Morpheus for those that do not wish to participate in their forums any longer.
*blinks*
My post was a flame? Cool.
I'm angry at everyone right now!!!!
Perhaps. Then again, there is no way to sugar coat his response. He posted what he wanted on the topic. It is the right of the readers of -this- forum to know his view.
As well it shows that he does not understand the drive of some modders. It isn't always for the community, at first. FireSoul started his for personal enjoyment for him and his friends. The community embraced it, and that inspired him to continue.
It is unfortunate that Morpheus does not understand the selflessness that was put into creating OP+ in the first place.
Perhaps. Then again, there is no way to sugar coat his response. He posted what he wanted on the topic. It is the right of the readers of -this- forum to know his view.
As well it shows that he does not understand the drive of some modders. It isn't always for the community, at first. FireSoul started his for personal enjoyment for him and his friends. The community embraced it, and that inspired him to continue.
It is unfortunate that Morpheus does not understand the selflessness that was put into creating OP+ in the first place.
... I say meaningless because even thought he stole the name it was unlikely that anyone would have confused his list with yours regardless of what he called it.
... I say meaningless because even thought he stole the name it was unlikely that anyone would have confused his list with yours regardless of what he called it.
Don't bet on it big guy. You didn't see how it was being harped on GSA...
... I say meaningless because even thought he stole the name it was unlikely that anyone would have confused his list with yours regardless of what he called it.
Don't bet on it big guy. You didn't see how it was being harped on GSA...
None of us here would have confused it with mine, but the folks on GSA were buying it.
... I say meaningless because even thought he stole the name it was unlikely that anyone would have confused his list with yours regardless of what he called it.
Don't bet on it big guy. You didn't see how it was being harped on GSA...
... I say meaningless because even thought he stole the name it was unlikely that anyone would have confused his list with yours regardless of what he called it.
Don't bet on it big guy. You didn't see how it was being harped on GSA...
None of us here would have confused it with mine, but the folks on GSA were buying it.
Whatta u mean?
I take it this opplus 4.0 is not yours?
Rolling - what's with the namby-pamby diatribe?
Stop lecturing everybody on the proper way to issue resolution. "Oh thank you Morph, thank you so much for being so generous and reversing what was an Outright, lowdown, dirty usurpation of some ones hard work and energy and claiming it for yourself. Your such a sweet heart!"
blech!
I respect your right to deal with issues how ever you see fit - but don't drown us with sugary sweet bile and tell us THAT is the appropriate way to deal with situations such as this.
You're embarrassed? sheesh......
Rolling - what's with the namby-pamby diatribe?
Stop lecturing everybody on the proper way to issue resolution. "Oh thank you Morph, thank you so much for being so generous and reversing what was an Outright, lowdown, dirty usurpation of some ones hard work and energy and claiming it for yourself. Your such a sweet heart!"
blech!
I respect your right to deal with issues how ever you see fit - but don't drown us with sugary sweet bile and tell us THAT is the appropriate way to deal with situations such as this.
You're embarrassed? sheesh......
If it wasn't for her lecturing, I shutter to think how this society would degrade. Namby-pampy diatribe, eh? I consider her attempt to get something through some of thick skulls around here quite bold rather than "namby-pamby". Despite her being one of the better influences around here and our best representative, ya gotta go and drive her off! May your conscience convict you for speeking in such a disrespectful manner to one of our most esteemed comrades.
So... here it is then. Do we support 3.3, 4.0 or both?
> Cylons
Why does 762 drink Cutty Sark?..hmmm disturbing...
So anyway, when are the Tholians getting into OP+?
Rolling got one thing right.
Damage has been done. There is now "murmurings" happening in the SFC 2 and OP fleets with that hammering that Morph got.
Rolling got one thing right.
Damage has been done. There is now "murmurings" happening in the SFC 2 and OP fleets with that hammering that Morph got.
You lot seem to forget that even though WGL is basically a dying league it still has it's following. Fire may have got what he wanted, but the reputation of WGL has been damaged anyway, it always has been. However from what i have been seeing in email reports sent to me THIS place will suffer even more in the future.
Part of the 3 arms of the STGD is with the fleets, when they aint happy about something or when there is rumours or murmurings going on and certain fleets decide to act...i hear about it.
Anyway, nothing to do with me, its between d.net and the other side. STGD is standing back from all this.
And I'm wondering why she needs you to comment on it. Kims a big girl and she should know we wont always do things the way she does. I dont think she needs you sticking up for her her skewed reaction to something that wasnt under her control in the first place.
If you want the credit then you can have it, but I seriously doubt that was the reason.
Going over and threating a person for doing something that displeased us is not using out collective wit.
I am disappointed in the way you guys act. You have all gave the Dynaverse.net a bad reputation with your loud mouth, arrogant behavior, and smacktalk.
There are so many ways to accomplish the goal that would increase your value, but instead you all go in as hot heads and think you can force people to change when none of you can change.
This was all handled wrong from the beginning to end.
I cannot express enough my displeasure in all of you at this time.
You're a bunch of babies!!!!
J'inn = Clueless
What is WGL?
What is STDG?
What is a Morph?
Who are these people?
Why does 762 drink Cutty Sark?
Besides, I have my own beef with this wether FS can appreciate my stance or not.
No. But it really doesn't matter.
So anyway, when are the Tholians getting into OP+?
oF COURSE iM BEING SARCASTIC, BUT THATS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, ISNT IT? oops caps.
See... here's the dilema. I walk into the lobby of OP GSA and all the games are 4.0. What to do? Leave or stay and play and condone Morpheous' actions? It's either that or we stomp the hell out of this WGL 4.0 sh*t right here right now.
I say you immediately release version 4.1 of OP+ wether there are changes or not. Spam the f*ck out of everything to ppl D/L it.
Keep doing it till you raise enough awareness so that all the community peeps on both sides of the fence know for a fact that WGL's ripped off version of your shiplist is crap and isnt supported by you at all.
Cylons... WTF is this dude thinking he is? The savior of OP GSA he says... :rofl:
Morph's publicly announced goal has been and is to 'kill GZ'. I believe that this effort of his was toward that end. He knows that GZ has adopted FS's OP+ as the default shiplist (and that any new release is to be adopted immediately). So, basically I think his goal was to get enough of the GSA lobby to move to the OPPLUS 4.0 (by hook or by crook) that GZ would be put into a big squeeze - people don't care for switching back and forth between shiplists. That, and '4.0' gives the impression that GZ is behind the times and WGL is a progressive league where all the new action is.
ROFL
Thats what i like about this place, if you dont agree with the mod rule you get thumped, hell, Nanner is still doing it to Vic and he's in HOSPITAL.
Also, whats STGD? It's the site that held the interview with Harry Lang and its the site that asked Harry to visit this place. It's also the site which is hosting over half of the mods for SFC 3 and gets around 10,000 to 20,000 hits a day...and it's Star Trek's no.1 PC game site. As some people in here said though, its not important.
See ya, youve lost another member.
FS - Okay, then what about the rest of the SFB-based races?
QuoteWhy does 762 drink Cutty Sark?..hmmm disturbing...
J'inn = Clueless
What is a Morph?
Who are these people?
Can somebody answer these questions for me?
Just so you all know, I moved Katherine's post because it was a thinly veiled attack by her on Dynaverse.net. There are many people who spend a good part of their day concerned only with spreading mistruths, half truths, etc. We won't tolerate the game being played here. That is why the post was removed. I am going to do the same thing to Victor1st's last post.
Thank you.
Rolling - what's with the namby-pamby diatribe?
Stop lecturing everybody on the proper way to issue resolution. "Oh thank you Morph, thank you so much for being so generous and reversing what was an Outright, lowdown, dirty usurpation of some ones hard work and energy and claiming it for yourself. Your such a sweet heart!"
blech!
I respect your right to deal with issues how ever you see fit - but don't drown us with sugary sweet bile and tell us THAT is the appropriate way to deal with situations such as this.
You're embarrassed? sheesh......
Rolling - what's with the namby-pamby diatribe?
Stop lecturing everybody on the proper way to issue resolution. "Oh thank you Morph, thank you so much for being so generous and reversing what was an Outright, lowdown, dirty usurpation of some ones hard work and energy and claiming it for yourself. Your such a sweet heart!"
blech!
I respect your right to deal with issues how ever you see fit - but don't drown us with sugary sweet bile and tell us THAT is the appropriate way to deal with situations such as this.
You're embarrassed? sheesh......
Sorry Kim, I just gotta...
What's with being a down right jerk to a woman, do you feel all manly now? As long as you kept to the issue it was fine, but now you have gone and insulted somebody just trying to help. Maybe you would like a crew neck T-shirt and a beer to go along with your attack on a female.
The person you attacked for trying to be civil is a well respected member and you have stunk up the place by being decidedly UN-civil. She is allowed her thoughts just as much as you are allowed to be a jerk. (which you do very well at)
Hooch
Morph's publicly announced goal has been and is to 'kill GZ'. I believe that this effort of his was toward that end. He knows that GZ has adopted FS's OP+ as the default shiplist (and that any new release is to be adopted immediately). So, basically I think his goal was to get enough of the GSA lobby to move to the OPPLUS 4.0 (by hook or by crook) that GZ would be put into a big squeeze - people don't care for switching back and forth between shiplists. That, and '4.0' gives the impression that GZ is behind the times and WGL is a progressive league where all the new action is.
So he's out to kill GZ? who can verify this? That's probably not all that great of an idea, cuz some ppl who enjoy GZ spill over into the D2 from time to time. I dont want any part of any D2 community killed off. Hurts player numbers.
I'd like to know what his reasoning is if true.
Rolling - what's with the namby-pamby diatribe?
Stop lecturing everybody on the proper way to issue resolution. "Oh thank you Morph, thank you so much for being so generous and reversing what was an Outright, lowdown, dirty usurpation of some ones hard work and energy and claiming it for yourself. Your such a sweet heart!"
blech!
I respect your right to deal with issues how ever you see fit - but don't drown us with sugary sweet bile and tell us THAT is the appropriate way to deal with situations such as this.
You're embarrassed? sheesh......
Sorry Kim, I just gotta...
What's with being a down right jerk to a woman, do you feel all manly now? As long as you kept to the issue it was fine, but now you have gone and insulted somebody just trying to help. Maybe you would like a crew neck T-shirt and a beer to go along with your attack on a female.
The person you attacked for trying to be civil is a well respected member and you have stunk up the place by being decidedly UN-civil. She is allowed her thoughts just as much as you are allowed to be a jerk. (which you do very well at)
Hooch
Here here!
See what I mean, Dizzy?
Whatch out - I don't think Kim would appreciate you attacking me. You should buy me flowers first, and right out your complaint in a poem, preferably in iambic pentameter.
Sorry Kim, I just gotta...
What's with being a down right jerk to a woman, do you feel all manly now? As long as you kept to the issue it was fine, but now you have gone and insulted somebody just trying to help. Maybe you would like a crew neck T-shirt and a beer to go along with your attack on a female.
The person you attacked for trying to be civil is a well respected member and you have stunk up the place by being decidedly UN-civil. She is allowed her thoughts just as much as you are allowed to be a jerk. (which you do very well at)
Hooch
One suggestion for KIm i got though, read slowly and carefully the chatt logs Firesoul posted.
Sorry Kim, I just gotta...
What's with being a down right jerk to a woman, do you feel all manly now? As long as you kept to the issue it was fine, but now you have gone and insulted somebody just trying to help. Maybe you would like a crew neck T-shirt and a beer to go along with your attack on a female.
The person you attacked for trying to be civil is a well respected member and you have stunk up the place by being decidedly UN-civil. She is allowed her thoughts just as much as you are allowed to be a jerk. (which you do very well at)
Hooch
Geez Hoochie Poo, where were you when I was the damsel in distress.
Well, thats the thing, Leroy, I dont see how kim was attacked. I DO see how we as gents colectively went about our own way on handling this issue was to her dissapointment. I wouldnt have thought that would drive her off. Jakle's post doesnt seem ott, but if she was in a particular mood, that post could sting...I will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only one.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.
This is odd. I dont see too much kim hand holding, but this thread is full of it. I like kim, I dont want to see her upset, but I dont see the problem. Mb thats the problem. Men need to see a problem in order to fix it. Mb ithere isnt a problem to fix? Mb its one of those emotional things. I dunno. We as men always try and put on our Mr. Fix it hat and make things better. Be nice to do that for Kim right now, Im sure she doesnt need it, but Im kinda busy wearing my STOMP hat dealing with Morpheous. Ill have to get back to u guys... ;) Besides, walking on eggshells isnt something I like to do. Makes me uncomfiortable if I have to work into my think process wether or not something I say will offend kim. I dont think that ck stop will make it into the programming update. ;)
Well, thats the thing, Leroy, I dont see how kim was attacked. I DO see how we as gents colectively went about our own way on handling this issue was to her dissapointment. I wouldnt have thought that would drive her off. Jakle's post doesnt seem ott, but if she was in a particular mood, that post could sting...I will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only one.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.
This is odd. I dont see too much kim hand holding, but this thread is full of it. I like kim, I dont want to see her upset, but I dont see the problem. Mb thats the problem. Men need to see a problem in order to fix it. Mb ithere isnt a problem to fix? Mb its one of those emotional things. I dunno. We as men always try and put on our Mr. Fix it hat and make things better. Be nice to do that for Kim right now, Im sure she doesnt need it, but Im kinda busy wearing my STOMP hat dealing with Morpheous. Ill have to get back to u guys... ;) Besides, walking on eggshells isnt something I like to do. Makes me uncomfiortable if I have to work into my think process wether or not something I say will offend kim. I dont think that ck stop will make it into the programming update. ;)
I will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only oneAssuming you mean Dizzy.. ignore him. he likes to have his name show up but he's in the "has been" category
.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious
.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.
See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
Ding ding. And not only that his posts are mostly unintelligible. I don't even read them because I usually can't understand what he's saying - and when I can, they make me laugh.
I mean, I can understand clueless, but how hard is it to construct a coherent train of thought?
Why does 762 drink Cutty Sark?
See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
Ding ding. And not only that his posts are mostly unintelligible. I don't even read them because I usually can't understand what he's saying - and when I can, they make me laugh.
I mean, I can understand clueless, but how hard is it to construct a coherent train of thought?
This was nasty ,insensitive and uncalled for >:(See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
Ding ding. And not only that his posts are mostly unintelligible. I don't even read them because I usually can't understand what he's saying - and when I can, they make me laugh.
I mean, I can understand clueless, but how hard is it to construct a coherent train of thought?
Why does 762 drink Cutty Sark?
:o
J'inn....you......youu...........
YOU BASTARD!!!!!
That is true, Dizzy. Kim doesn't need anyone to stick up for her, but we are the SSCF and that's what we do; we stand by our fleet mates.QuoteQuote
hey thats perfectly understandable. and I agree with you totaly on that.
now I don't know kim at all. she seems like a nice person, just wants to help fix a problem she sees in her fashion. but what kim needs to understand is that:
1) not everyone agrees with her aproach
2) people take things different ways, and sometimes we get a little passionate about things
3) just cause you have a different view than someone else does'nt mean your right and thier wrong
4) princess morphous got called on the carpet and sent to the woodshed by not only the d2 crowd, but a few others who heard about this as well.
now if you all would have gone over with milk and cookies, nothing would have happend. if some people (especially FS himself) did'nt lambaste him on GSA, others who don't read the D2 forum would have taken this piece of garbage as Firesouls newest OPPLUS version. especially since he was spamming it on gsa with his lackys.
think about this for a sec. you don't visit D2, you hear about it on gsa. you see everyone touting firsouls 3.3 so u get it. then someone is spamming a new OPPLUS 4.0 and your like "cool, FS has a new upgrade, I loved 3.3 so let me get 4.0". they go through the BS of down loading this POS (thats right I said POS, cause basicly thats what it is.) and maybe they have 56k like myself. so its hours of downloading. then you find out that its sucks cause its bugged all to hell ( on the wgl boards its noted that their are some problems with wepons not loading, not seen, and that it will be fixed in a later patch). your opinion of Firesoul and his OPPLUS is that it sucks.
how f'n wrong is that? you downloaded it based on his prior work, and reputation.
so sometimes the "milk and cookies" "kiss on the cheeks" does'nt cut the mustard. this would be one of those cases. princess morphous would have continued calling it, OPPLUS 4.0 etc etc etc. not for the good of the sfc community as he states, but for his own agenda.
I'm sorry bud, but if were not for those who ripped him to shreds on this, it never would have stoped.
I respect you standing up for your fleetmates. absolutly. I just disagree with kims approach is all. the little I know of her is from playing in the gw series on d2. hope she continues. she's a asset to the community. maybe you can smooth things over for us here with her........maybe bring her some "milk and cookies?"
hey man, when I get pissed at work over something......nothing like a cookie to make things a little better.
I'll have to ask mini me to post some chocolate chip cookie recipes on this thread. he's got some pretty good ones. damm good cookies if I say so myself. kim can bring the milk, and we'll all feel alot better eh?
"The Evil One"
Kraven
She was just sick of our constant reactionary abrasiveness I imagine, and IMO she handled it fine. Everyone please lay off her.
LeRoy you aren't helping matters by prattling on. Just let it rest already.
But I like to prattle! But if you insist...
I'll tell ya what, keep Piggy in his basement away from me and ya have a deal ([url]http://members.surfbest.net/sfb76279@surfbest.net/Images/Smilies/wink.gif[/url])
But I like to prattle! But if you insist...
I'll tell ya what, keep Piggy in his basement away from me and ya have a deal ([url]http://members.surfbest.net/sfb76279@surfbest.net/Images/Smilies/wink.gif[/url])
No deal!
My posts are coherent because most of the time I am not joking around on the Tri Mod forums they make perfect sense it is you possibly.Maybe you need classes or lay off the sauce and I use my Internet Explorer spell checker as well not the one in here.I can look up all the meaning of the words with mine.When I am on a server I stand by and watch you get eating up by Klinks and Lyrans.See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
Ding ding. And not only that his posts are mostly unintelligible. I don't even read them because I usually can't understand what he's saying - and when I can, they make me laugh.
I mean, I can understand clueless, but how hard is it to construct a coherent train of thought?
My posts are coherent because most of the time I am not joking around on the Tri Mod forums they make perfect sense it is you possibly.Maybe you need classes or lay off the sauce and I use my Internet Explorer spell checker as well not the one in here.I can look up all the meaning of the words with mine.When I am on a server I stand by and watch you get eating up by Klinks and Lyrans.
Ahhh Age Bashing... one of my few hobbies on this boardWhat do you mean by Fleetmates my only Fleet mate is not in here that much if you care to see what Fleet I am it is on my sig?I have had read several postings in the past and on any given night you are usually going up against an AI as L1 used to say.The main reason I am not online playing yet is because I am on a shared Internet Service Provider.I need to get set up first which I am fully not.I need a few things done to my comp. as well.I hope this answers your question and btw when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.What is a Dynakil Depression?
OK Age in the interest of keeping you around (and I would prefer you stay around and start to play)QuoteI will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only oneAssuming you mean Dizzy.. ignore him. he likes to have his name show up but he's in the "has been" category
If you mean someone else- get used to it, everyone critiques everyone here..Quote.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious
See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
-When defending the BCE -you mentioned it "could fly speed 38.8, enough to outrun any plasma etc etc"
You put forth the idea that everyone playing this game for x years + had all this time been reading how fast the ships flew wrong. That we should actually look at the energy panel to see how fast they were going.
- You posted that you're own "modified" D7L was a great ship -well duh, my modded CWLP kicks ass as well- but no one will ever let it on in mulitplayer.
-All of your posts are that you can defeat the AI using tactic X etc,.
Everyone can beat the Ai (well except for J'inn... and I think I remember DH crying about it on TS one night)
Anytime ships are compared/tactics are asked for or discussed it's about PvP.
So I'm sure it sounds rude -and I don't really mean it to be- but no one cares about how you beat a CCZ with a CWLP in 30 minutes or so against the AI (should take about 5-6 minutes btw)
Beat a CCZ with a CWLP in a PvP (taking as long as you want) and everyone will listen to you.
To (kinda) sum up- stop posting tactics or opinions you've decided are ritght about the game based on playing against the AI. (ex)-the BCE is perhaps the worst BCH in the game, doesn't mean you can't like it, doesn't mean you can't have fun flying it. But really you'll have more fun if you get online, listen to what advice your fleetmates can offer and go learn these things for yourself.
-And stop posting about how hot it is so that you can't play, unless you're living in the Danakil Depression , it's not to hot to play... ;DQuote.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.
Again listen to what? _It may sound harsh, but offer us something woth listening to and I think you'll find an attentive audience.. offer eroneous information and misconstrued ideas concerning the game and you're not going to get very far. Ask questions. it's good for you.
She was just sick of our constant reactionary abrasiveness I imagine, and IMO she handled it fine. Everyone please lay off her.
LeRoy you aren't helping matters by prattling on. Just let it rest already.
Ahhh Age Bashing... one of my few hobbies on this boardWhat do you mean by Fleetmates my only Fleet mate is not in here that much if you care to see what Fleet I am it is on my sig?I have had read several postings in the past and on any given night you are usually going up against an AI as L1 used to say.The main reason I am not online playing yet is because I am on a shared Internet Service Provider.I need to get set up first which I am fully not.I need a few things done to my comp. as well.I hope this answers your question and btw when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.What is a Dynakil Depression?
OK Age in the interest of keeping you around (and I would prefer you stay around and start to play)QuoteI will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only oneAssuming you mean Dizzy.. ignore him. he likes to have his name show up but he's in the "has been" category
If you mean someone else- get used to it, everyone critiques everyone here..Quote.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious
See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
-When defending the BCE -you mentioned it "could fly speed 38.8, enough to outrun any plasma etc etc"
You put forth the idea that everyone playing this game for x years + had all this time been reading how fast the ships flew wrong. That we should actually look at the energy panel to see how fast they were going.
- You posted that you're own "modified" D7L was a great ship -well duh, my modded CWLP kicks ass as well- but no one will ever let it on in mulitplayer.
-All of your posts are that you can defeat the AI using tactic X etc,.
Everyone can beat the Ai (well except for J'inn... and I think I remember DH crying about it on TS one night)
Anytime ships are compared/tactics are asked for or discussed it's about PvP.
So I'm sure it sounds rude -and I don't really mean it to be- but no one cares about how you beat a CCZ with a CWLP in 30 minutes or so against the AI (should take about 5-6 minutes btw)
Beat a CCZ with a CWLP in a PvP (taking as long as you want) and everyone will listen to you.
To (kinda) sum up- stop posting tactics or opinions you've decided are ritght about the game based on playing against the AI. (ex)-the BCE is perhaps the worst BCH in the game, doesn't mean you can't like it, doesn't mean you can't have fun flying it. But really you'll have more fun if you get online, listen to what advice your fleetmates can offer and go learn these things for yourself.
-And stop posting about how hot it is so that you can't play, unless you're living in the Danakil Depression , it's not to hot to play... ;DQuote.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.
Again listen to what? _It may sound harsh, but offer us something woth listening to and I think you'll find an attentive audience.. offer eroneous information and misconstrued ideas concerning the game and you're not going to get very far. Ask questions. it's good for you.
when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.
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However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard? ;)
Bastard kills me once in training and he gets all upitiy. Children these days . . .
when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.
May I suggest you fly the D5D then? That would require you to fly Klink and I wouldn't wish that fait upon anyone...
However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard? ;)
One suggestion for KIm i got though, read slowly and carefully the chatt logs Firesoul posted.
I read those, several days back. In them the representative of the accused promised Firesoul that the name-use was due to misunderstanding about what Firesoul's "permission to use" meant, and they agreed to respect his wishes and not use the name OP+.
Now I come here and find this thread. (Wow, you miss all the hot stuff when you have a busy day and don't check every thread.)
If they'd already agreed not to use the name, what was the issue? Did I miss something? Did the accused write back and say, "screw what my friend says; I'm using your name and you can't stop me?" I don't know. I never went to his forum. Maybe he *did* do that. But if his organization had already agreed not to use the name OP+, what was the need for a flame campaign?
-S'Cipio
I understand, however, that past history was not on these forums.
Now to calmly state what such a past history was in order to inform folks here and to warn us about such individuals is perfectly fine IMHO. But to bring a free for all flame fest full of personal attacks doesn't seem to be in our best interest. About a year ago I posted a petition on Taldren where many if not most of our members signed on in opposition to such personal attacks. Criticism of a persons actions is one thing, but a personal attack is another no matter how well deserved.
I understand, however, that past history was not on these forums.
Now to calmly state what such a past history was in order to inform folks here and to warn us about such individuals is perfectly fine IMHO. But to bring a free for all flame fest full of personal attacks doesn't seem to be in our best interest. About a year ago I posted a petition on Taldren where many if not most of our members signed on in opposition to such personal attacks. Criticism of a persons actions is one thing, but a personal attack is another no matter how well deserved.
Here is the problem with the past history issues. Morpheous is a ladder player. The ladder/league players have their own forums, and those forums are NOT usually the D2 forums on Taldren or ANY forums on Dynaverse.net. Those forums are on WGL or GZ.
KHH and GDA pilots are probably two of the very few fleets that participate in GSA (In the GZ League) and the Dynaverse. I do not know of ANY WGL players exceppt maybe Damaged666 that is a Dynaverse and WGL player.
So, when Firesoul posts his concerns on this forum, it does not matter. people had to go to the place where the WGL was....GSA.
If you want to see what kind of person Morpheous is, see his response to KRollings very, very polite post on the WGL forums:
[url]http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod;action=display;num=1090277409[/url]
You people on the Dynaverse.net can choke on your own pride for I care and instead of thinking of the just a name of something look at the bigger picture of the community trying to save the gaming lobby.
Firesoul has not copyright in fact the material he uses is probably Armadillo's. However the name "OP+" is his Brand and as a matter of repect should honored by everyone.
ACCKK!! ITS NOT ARMADILLO! ITS AMARILLO DANGNABBIT AMARILLO!!! OK? :banghead: :banghead:
Firesoul has not copyright in fact the material he uses is probably Armadillo's. However the name "OP+" is his Brand and as a matter of repect should honored by everyone.
Speaking of brands...
ACCKK!! ITS NOT ARMADILLO! ITS AMARILLO, DANGNABBIT! AMARILLO!!! OK? :banghead: :banghead:
(sorry to shout, this one drives me nuts, as I've posted before, complete with diagrams...)
[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=amarillo%20design%20bureau[/url]
Oh great, another one... ;DBe glad Dizzy's taking a small break, you might hear about Kim's Armed Di*COUGH-COUGH*... ahem sorry about that!
lol, smarty pants... sounds tasty to me right about now actually... ;D
Amaretto? Not my thing but sure, I'll have some...
*runs*
Oh great, another one... ;D
The only reason this really bugs me is that it is referred to as the Armadillo Design Bureau on all the SFC disk covers except version 1 (its correct) and version 3 (its absent ;)).
It always strikes me funny though, trying to picture an "Armadillo Design Bureau"... like evolution/God didn't do a good enough job... perhaps its some secret military project... killer gm armadillos coming soon to a front near you... lol.
Amaretto? Not my thing but sure, I'll have some...
*runs*
You've been visiting too often. Look familiar?
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Unfortunately its all gone. Goes rreally nice in my coffee.
Woah.. you drank it ALL? :o
.. When did I get you this bottle? Last week? .. Jesus Sam! That stuff's expensive! :'(
Firesoul has not copyright in fact the material he uses is probably Armadillo's. However the name "OP+" is his Brand and as a matter of repect should honored by everyone.
Speaking of brands...
ACCKK!! ITS NOT ARMADILLO! ITS AMARILLO, DANGNABBIT! AMARILLO!!! OK? :banghead: :banghead:
(sorry to shout, this one drives me nuts, as I've posted before, complete with diagrams...)
[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=amarillo%20design%20bureau[/url]
I have been to the liberry and concorded absolutely that it is Armadillo. ;) ;D
I have checked and checked, and its conductive.
The drink of "real" men!
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None of them foo-foo liqueurs, high falutin' scotch or fermented toenail fungus (tequila)!
It makes me fly gooder!