I have to agree with the PCI express recommendation. There is no sense in buyinq non-PCI express motherboard unless you like throwing money away. If you haven't got the money to drop on a PCI express-based system, then I'd just wait until you can.
Of course *I* know what you're talking about, but maybe one of you can explain what "PCI Express" is for lackwits like that Green fellow...In marketting terms? "The Latest & Greatest"
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
What the Fed said the Klingon said.
I like the 6800 over the ATI if you are going for the bleed edge in VID card though. I just ordered the last of the parts for my new system on Friday. AMD 3200+ XP, 1 GB Corsair 3200 DDR, ASUS AN78X MB, HD 200 GB SerialATA Seagate, etc.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
What the Fed said the Klingon said.
I like the 6800 over the ATI if you are going for the bleed edge in VID card though. I just ordered the last of the parts for my new system on Friday. AMD 3200+ XP, 1 GB Corsair 3200 DDR, ASUS AN78X MB, HD 200 GB SerialATA Seagate, etc.
You mean 9800? I'm wating for thew price to drop after the X800 become more widely available.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
What the Fed said the Klingon said.
I like the 6800 over the ATI if you are going for the bleed edge in VID card though. I just ordered the last of the parts for my new system on Friday. AMD 3200+ XP, 1 GB Corsair 3200 DDR, ASUS AN78X MB, HD 200 GB SerialATA Seagate, etc.
You mean 9800? I'm wating for thew price to drop after the X800 become more widely available.
No I meant the FX6800 nVidia. Although I am going with a FX5600 and will wait to upgrade to a better VID card next year.
I don't have money to throw away, so I usually build a system that has 90% of the power of the bleading edge system, but is 50% or less of the price.
What the Klink said.
What the Fed said the Klingon said.
I like the 6800 over the ATI if you are going for the bleed edge in VID card though. I just ordered the last of the parts for my new system on Friday. AMD 3200+ XP, 1 GB Corsair 3200 DDR, ASUS AN78X MB, HD 200 GB SerialATA Seagate, etc.
You mean 9800? I'm wating for thew price to drop after the X800 become more widely available.
No I meant the FX6800 nVidia. Although I am going with a FX5600 and will wait to upgrade to a better VID card next year.
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I like the Corsair XMS Series TWINS for matched RAM in nVidia MB due to the dual memory controllers, although I have heard good things about the RAM you choose too.
Make sure your DVD burner does Dual Layer DVDs. NEC makes one that is $89 US.
I like the Corsair XMS Series TWINS for matched RAM in nVidia MB due to the dual memory controllers, although I have heard good things about the RAM you choose too.
Make sure your DVD burner does Dual Layer DVDs. NEC makes one that is $89 US.
According to benchamks, Kingston HyperX performs just as well as the XMS series for overclocking and same performance stock.
I like the Corsair XMS Series TWINS for matched RAM in nVidia MB due to the dual memory controllers, although I have heard good things about the RAM you choose too.
Make sure your DVD burner does Dual Layer DVDs. NEC makes one that is $89 US.
According to benchamks, Kingston HyperX performs just as well as the XMS series for overclocking and same performance stock.
Yeah, but I like the Corsair TWIN matched DIMMs for stability on the nVidia dual memory controler chipset is all. Although the Kingston are high quality and shouldn't poses any trouble.
<sigh> I remember buying my first computer " Wow you got a 486/DX2?? You rule!"
Sooo what you're all saying is the above componenets should work OK together? I didn't screw anything up?
HD
WD 200GB 7200 ATA100 IDE 8M 3yr. $189.00
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WD 200GB 7200 ATA100 IDE 8M 3yr. $189.00
Go with a SATA Drive. Should be faster and your board will support it....
jd
Many of the newer single layer drives can be upgraded to dual layer with a firmwear patch, and may of the Dual Layer drives being marketed today are nothing more than the same old single layer model being sold last month with the firmwear already upgraded.
Many of the newer single layer drives can be upgraded to dual layer with a firmwear patch, and may of the Dual Layer drives being marketed today are nothing more than the same old single layer model being sold last month with the firmwear already upgraded.
Really? Other sources have claimed that such updates are merely rumor.
OK seems to be all good, Thanks All!I thought you knew all this ? See you later.
Before I run out and order it though- the DVD burner doesn't have "dual layer dvd burning"
What is it and why should I get it?
(If it's just to be stylish I'll still do it.. just wondering what it does..)
OK seems to be all good, Thanks All!I thought you knew all this ? See you later.
Before I run out and order it though- the DVD burner doesn't have "dual layer dvd burning"
What is it and why should I get it?
(If it's just to be stylish I'll still do it.. just wondering what it does..)
HD
WD 200GB 7200 ATA100 IDE 8M 3yr. $189.00
Go with a SATA Drive. Should be faster and your board will support it....
jd
SATA=Serial ATA. It's faster and does away with those big ribbon cables.
HD
WD 200GB 7200 ATA100 IDE 8M 3yr. $189.00
Go with a SATA Drive. Should be faster and your board will support it....
jd
SATA=Serial ATA. It's faster and does away with those big ribbon cables.
Well, it does get rid of the bulky cables. That helps....
But REALLY faster? It's supposed to be. But most makers are just tacking SATA interfaces on their current HDD units. These units don't really push the ATA133 standard now(cannot sustain the throughput of 133) So having a 150 interface on the same hard disk is not going to help.
There are some faster drives out there, but they are expensive and smaller(basically server (AKA SCSI 10k rpm) drives)
I still agree to go SATA. As a matter of fact, a lot of SATA cards are also RAID cards. I like using hardware RAID where money allows...
jd
You are right on the F-BCE but the person who is giving me all the Tactical information is Pestalence.Where would you think I get it from and he says Quote that you have to fire at range when taking on I-CCZ Quote That is why it take 40 minutes to take one out.I ask him the questions and always will.That is who supplies me with all the info.
I will say this that I am still new at all this posting on forums and Pestalence knows that.I was only on Taldrens Boards for 4+ months and then here but I am on others as well SFC&Commmunity Tri- Mods Boards at STGD.There I am in Dom Wars.I hope you can understand all this now. See you later or come over to the Tri -Mods forum.I am talking to some of the D3ers right now and collecting some latinum.I still like you guys but you drive me bonkers sometimes where I am abou to blow up.
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Perhaps a but of quantum mechanics is also involved. Posts and anti-posts spontaneously coming into existance, meeting to annilate each other and restore the thread to an energy neutral state. Now where is that anti-post????
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OK last thing (I promise!)
Was all set to get a Athlon XP 3200+, the guy at the store tells me for gaming I'd do better with a
P4 2.8 ghx (800 something or other) says hyperthreading is the way to go.
I thought I'd read that hyperthreading doesn't do anything for games.
Both are the same price, which is better for gaming?
OK last thing (I promise!)
Was all set to get a Athlon XP 3200+, the guy at the store tells me for gaming I'd do better with a
P4 2.8 ghx (800 something or other) says hyperthreading is the way to go.
I thought I'd read that hyperthreading doesn't do anything for games.
Both are the same price, which is better for gaming?
OK last thing (I promise!)
Was all set to get a Athlon XP 3200+, the guy at the store tells me for gaming I'd do better with a
P4 2.8 ghx (800 something or other) says hyperthreading is the way to go.
I thought I'd read that hyperthreading doesn't do anything for games.
Both are the same price, which is better for gaming?
Would depend on the game, but in general Hyper threading adds performance only when multiple applications are being run. Thus if you run the game in windows mode while surfing the net for hardcore MPEGs it will be better.
As to the cost, even if the CPUs are priced the same you still need to factor in the difference in motherboard and possibly (if using rambus) RAM cost diffences. Also, in order to truly get better preformance out of an Intel rig you would need to use the more expensive rambus RAM as the intel chips are limited with DDR.
Long and short of it is, go with the AMD CPU. JMHO of course.
I'm waiting until next spring break/summer because I'm not going to be playing many games during school, and this comp is fine for school...
But when school is over, these will be my specs (approx)
Intel 64bit CPU @ 4ghz (approx)
64 bit mobo with PCI Xpress and DDR2
1stick of 1gb ram
160gb internal (non system apps)
15gb internal (already have... will have system apps ie OS etc)
40gb external (already have... will have games and stuff that I will move to diff comps etc)
DVD dual layer burner
DVD drive (which I have...)
7in1 memory card reader (which will come with the case)
New GeForce vid card
15 in moniter (until I buy a new one, this is the one I will have)
I'm building my own... and hopefully in about 10 months, these prices will be cheap enough that I can build this around $1500 USD.
I went with the cases internal 420w PS, if something bad happens I'll upgrade to the Enermax 450 one.