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Title: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 05, 2003, 07:21:29 pm
I've just finished replaying the SFC:EAW single-player campaigns under OP. ..

Namely:
 

..  what does that mean? Oh. .. I was fixing the problems and bugs as I went along. The updated package is at:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/EAW_campaigns_for_OP-20030303.zip

Also, I've posted an archive of the updated Sources  (set in an OP build environment.. ):
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/eaw_campaigns_for_OP_Scripts-20030305.zip



Fixed missions:
 


Main site with information:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/


-- Luc
FireSoul  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Cleaven on March 05, 2003, 08:08:17 pm
Damn, these programmers are useful types of people after all.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 05, 2003, 08:21:43 pm
Quote:

Damn, these programmers are useful types of people after all.  



I'm actually a Linux sysadmin and perl monger in real life. ...
.. calling me a programmer would be a demotion.  

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on March 05, 2003, 09:05:54 pm
Thank you Firesoul!

Not much point in having great looking ships with no missions to play them in.

How is your project coming along?


KF

 
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 06, 2003, 04:12:25 am
Quote:

How is your project coming along?




This was one of them.. I need to get in touch with NW for the next one.
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 06, 2003, 11:40:52 pm
*plays the 0303 missions with fixed battle at grave of thoughts*

Yay. Neeto.

Any chance the firing error in Orion Moon will be updated? The planet isn't becoming vulnerable when it launches ships, still.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 05:33:18 am
I haven't hit that mission while I played. .. so I guess it means I haven't reviewed it.
*sigh* .. let's see..
 
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 07:26:15 am
Arrrh-HEM!


 

It works for me. The moon becomes vulnerable for 0.5 turns, which means about 15 secs at Speed 8. If you miss the opportunity, then you have to kill another ship.

-- Luc
FireSoul
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 11:49:10 am
15 seconds at speed 8?!

Hmm. I /know/ I've dumped full weapons into the planet within 15 seconds, at speed 8.  Hell, I had the fighters kill the ship, simply so I /could/ do it within 15 seconds. Or hell, within -5- seconds..

And its never once worked. I can't beam to it even then

I'll try it again in OP, the current EAW version did the same thing tho.
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 11:52:13 am
Sorry.. the mission works.
I played it twice.

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 12:29:57 pm
Oh well, I must just be losing my mind then
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 01:53:21 pm
*plays it again, and wins*

Hmm. This time I destroyed the ori myself, before using other weapons to fire on the planet. That worked. Go fig...
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 07, 2003, 06:39:37 pm
Quote:



And its never once worked. I can't beam to it even then

 



That isn't Orion Moon, that is "the Pyre". You have to scan the planet to get the location of the ammo dump before you beam the bomb in.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 07, 2003, 06:44:47 pm
I know what I reported before about" Battle at the Grave of Thoughts" (OP, Fed), but I just played it again and the replacement cruisers never showed. The rescue ships came right on time however. Is this a one time glitch or does it need to be tweaked some more?

Thanks for all your hard work on this.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 07:58:12 pm
I worked hard on BatGot, and I can assure you that it worked for every time I played it... that must've been about 8-10 times.

.. what version of it do you have? From my latest release?
Note: BatGot requires the standard shiplist (or OP+).
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 06:59:42 am
Are you telling me that I can't have any additional ships in the shiplist besides yours. If that is true, than look no further because I had added a F-BCE refit and was using it for this battle. This ship has provided me with great service other wise. I will replay it with a stock ship out of your stock + list.
I don't know which version I have except I got it right after You fixed it. I am planning on ripping OP out and rebuilding from scratch with all of your projects once the patch comes out.
Would it be possible to retain all of the stock Taldren scripts along with the EAW scripts and the modified scripts from Dave in one large .mct. This way we would have access to all of the possible missions. I have played many of Dave's missions  (and a great addition they are) in a Fed-ISC campaign but I didn't see any stock scripts.
Thank you again    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:10:19 am
No.. I'm saying the game uses specific ships for the ally.
As per the code:
Code:

   switch ( allyRace )
   {
   case kFederation:
      {
         mCreateShip(   typeid( tAllyShip ), "F-BCG", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip(   typeid( tAllyShip ), "F-BCJ", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kKlingon:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "K-D6D", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "K-D7C", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kRomulan:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "R-K7R", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "R-KCR", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kLyran:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "L-BC", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "L-BCPP", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kGorn:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "G-BC", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "G-BCH", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kHydran:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "H-OV", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "H-D7H", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kMirak:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "Z-BCH", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "Z-BC", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;
   }
}


So look closely.. .. in the case of Federation, the ships "F-BCG" and "F-BCJ" are being used. Of course, they have to be present in the shiplist. That's what I meant by original shiplist..
.. what if you were using a hacked up shiplist where these ships were missing?

-- Luc
PS: used the most recent version?
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:17:05 am
Quote:

I worked hard on BatGot, and I can assure you that it worked for every time I played it... that must've been about 8-10 times.

.. what version of it do you have? From my latest release?
Note: BatGot requires the standard shiplist (or OP+).
-- Luc  



Change thatt to "recommend". I included my OP+ because it includes all of the standard shiplist within itself.
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 07:26:38 am
I have not deleted any ships from any of my lists. I had F-BCJ and aF-BCG as my initial escorts. I was flying a F-BCER. I have the film from this battle saved. Would you like to have a copy?
Also note I changed my earlier post while you were responding to it. I did not realize you would respond so quickly.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:29:39 am
Quote:

Also note I changed my earlier post while you were responding to it. I did not realize you would respond so quickly.      



Yeah well.. I'm bored.


Ok.. in SFC:OP, I've noticed that sometimes the ally race chosen is a pirate race, which completely screws things up as far as this mission goes. If you want, download my latest SFC:OP version, just the script itself, from  http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/

.. let me know if that worked? It's the same as in the latest package..

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 07:36:10 am
I am downloading now and will replay asap. As for your being bored,does that mean the baby is sleeping? I could never get bored with a baby in the house.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:39:16 am
Quote:

I am downloading now and will replay asap. As for your being bored,does that mean the baby is sleeping? I could never get bored with a baby in the house.    



.. sleeping... I've been up since 6.. etc.
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 09:33:17 am
After the prisoners are picked up, You can't self destruct the stations before all the prisoners have left the map or the cruisers do not show up and the freighters will not go to the other stations. This is ok for the FED mission but it might create a problem for the Hydran mission. With the Hydrans, they are told to destroy the stations before the mission will end. It would be OK as long as all the prisoners have left the map first or perhaps there is a different set of conditions for the Hydrans.
When I get a chance I will play it as a Hydran.

Thanks
   
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 10:41:52 am
Yeah, I know.
.. I changed the mission a bit for that. When the last freighter leaves, there's a "Destroy Bases" comm button with the allied listening post.  The objective is still valid after the freighters are all gone.

.. another solution:
.. you can switch to the bases (you captured them after all) and do self-destruct.



I spent a bit too much time on Batgot. It should work fine as it is now.
-- Luc
Title: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 05, 2003, 07:21:29 pm
I've just finished replaying the SFC:EAW single-player campaigns under OP. ..

Namely:
 

     
  • Klingon/Hydran/Lyran vs Mirak
     
  • Empires Vs ISC
     
  • Mirak Vs Lyran (War of Return)
     
  • ISC War of Pacification  (ISC Vs Empires)
     


..  what does that mean? Oh. .. I was fixing the problems and bugs as I went along. The updated package is at:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/EAW_campaigns_for_OP-20030303.zip

Also, I've posted an archive of the updated Sources  (set in an OP build environment.. ):
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/eaw_campaigns_for_OP_Scripts-20030305.zip



Fixed missions:
 

     
  • Uni_7BattleGrave.scr
     
  • Uni_1Desecration.scr  
     
  • Uni_7Gates.scr
     
  • Uni_9Edge.scr  
     
  • Mir_7Gates.scr  
     



Main site with information:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/


-- Luc
FireSoul  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Cleaven on March 05, 2003, 08:08:17 pm
Damn, these programmers are useful types of people after all.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 05, 2003, 08:21:43 pm
Quote:

Damn, these programmers are useful types of people after all.  



I'm actually a Linux sysadmin and perl monger in real life. ...
.. calling me a programmer would be a demotion.  

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on March 05, 2003, 09:05:54 pm
Thank you Firesoul!

Not much point in having great looking ships with no missions to play them in.

How is your project coming along?


KF

 
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 06, 2003, 04:12:25 am
Quote:

How is your project coming along?




This was one of them.. I need to get in touch with NW for the next one.
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 06, 2003, 11:40:52 pm
*plays the 0303 missions with fixed battle at grave of thoughts*

Yay. Neeto.

Any chance the firing error in Orion Moon will be updated? The planet isn't becoming vulnerable when it launches ships, still.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 05:33:18 am
I haven't hit that mission while I played. .. so I guess it means I haven't reviewed it.
*sigh* .. let's see..
 
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 07:26:15 am
Arrrh-HEM!


 

It works for me. The moon becomes vulnerable for 0.5 turns, which means about 15 secs at Speed 8. If you miss the opportunity, then you have to kill another ship.

-- Luc
FireSoul
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 11:49:10 am
15 seconds at speed 8?!

Hmm. I /know/ I've dumped full weapons into the planet within 15 seconds, at speed 8.  Hell, I had the fighters kill the ship, simply so I /could/ do it within 15 seconds. Or hell, within -5- seconds..

And its never once worked. I can't beam to it even then

I'll try it again in OP, the current EAW version did the same thing tho.
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 11:52:13 am
Sorry.. the mission works.
I played it twice.

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 12:29:57 pm
Oh well, I must just be losing my mind then
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: Carrie on March 07, 2003, 01:53:21 pm
*plays it again, and wins*

Hmm. This time I destroyed the ori myself, before using other weapons to fire on the planet. That worked. Go fig...
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 07, 2003, 06:39:37 pm
Quote:



And its never once worked. I can't beam to it even then

 



That isn't Orion Moon, that is "the Pyre". You have to scan the planet to get the location of the ammo dump before you beam the bomb in.  
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 07, 2003, 06:44:47 pm
I know what I reported before about" Battle at the Grave of Thoughts" (OP, Fed), but I just played it again and the replacement cruisers never showed. The rescue ships came right on time however. Is this a one time glitch or does it need to be tweaked some more?

Thanks for all your hard work on this.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 07, 2003, 07:58:12 pm
I worked hard on BatGot, and I can assure you that it worked for every time I played it... that must've been about 8-10 times.

.. what version of it do you have? From my latest release?
Note: BatGot requires the standard shiplist (or OP+).
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 06:59:42 am
Are you telling me that I can't have any additional ships in the shiplist besides yours. If that is true, than look no further because I had added a F-BCE refit and was using it for this battle. This ship has provided me with great service other wise. I will replay it with a stock ship out of your stock + list.
I don't know which version I have except I got it right after You fixed it. I am planning on ripping OP out and rebuilding from scratch with all of your projects once the patch comes out.
Would it be possible to retain all of the stock Taldren scripts along with the EAW scripts and the modified scripts from Dave in one large .mct. This way we would have access to all of the possible missions. I have played many of Dave's missions  (and a great addition they are) in a Fed-ISC campaign but I didn't see any stock scripts.
Thank you again    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:10:19 am
No.. I'm saying the game uses specific ships for the ally.
As per the code:
Code:

   switch ( allyRace )
   {
   case kFederation:
      {
         mCreateShip(   typeid( tAllyShip ), "F-BCG", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip(   typeid( tAllyShip ), "F-BCJ", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kKlingon:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "K-D6D", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "K-D7C", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kRomulan:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "R-K7R", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "R-KCR", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kLyran:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "L-BC", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "L-BCPP", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kGorn:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "G-BC", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "G-BCH", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kHydran:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "H-OV", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "H-D7H", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;

   case kMirak:
      {
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "Z-BCH", kStartPosition_H, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip1, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
         mCreateShip( typeid( tAllyShip ), "Z-BC", kStartPosition_I, kNoMetaShipID, 
                     kAllyShip2, 0, 0, -1, -1, NULL, kDefaultShipOptions );
      }
      break;
   }
}


So look closely.. .. in the case of Federation, the ships "F-BCG" and "F-BCJ" are being used. Of course, they have to be present in the shiplist. That's what I meant by original shiplist..
.. what if you were using a hacked up shiplist where these ships were missing?

-- Luc
PS: used the most recent version?
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:17:05 am
Quote:

I worked hard on BatGot, and I can assure you that it worked for every time I played it... that must've been about 8-10 times.

.. what version of it do you have? From my latest release?
Note: BatGot requires the standard shiplist (or OP+).
-- Luc  



Change thatt to "recommend". I included my OP+ because it includes all of the standard shiplist within itself.
-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 07:26:38 am
I have not deleted any ships from any of my lists. I had F-BCJ and aF-BCG as my initial escorts. I was flying a F-BCER. I have the film from this battle saved. Would you like to have a copy?
Also note I changed my earlier post while you were responding to it. I did not realize you would respond so quickly.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:29:39 am
Quote:

Also note I changed my earlier post while you were responding to it. I did not realize you would respond so quickly.      



Yeah well.. I'm bored.


Ok.. in SFC:OP, I've noticed that sometimes the ally race chosen is a pirate race, which completely screws things up as far as this mission goes. If you want, download my latest SFC:OP version, just the script itself, from  http://klingon.stasis.ca/EAW_missions/

.. let me know if that worked? It's the same as in the latest package..

-- Luc
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 07:36:10 am
I am downloading now and will replay asap. As for your being bored,does that mean the baby is sleeping? I could never get bored with a baby in the house.    
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 07:39:16 am
Quote:

I am downloading now and will replay asap. As for your being bored,does that mean the baby is sleeping? I could never get bored with a baby in the house.    



.. sleeping... I've been up since 6.. etc.
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: The Postman on March 08, 2003, 09:33:17 am
After the prisoners are picked up, You can't self destruct the stations before all the prisoners have left the map or the cruisers do not show up and the freighters will not go to the other stations. This is ok for the FED mission but it might create a problem for the Hydran mission. With the Hydrans, they are told to destroy the stations before the mission will end. It would be OK as long as all the prisoners have left the map first or perhaps there is a different set of conditions for the Hydrans.
When I get a chance I will play it as a Hydran.

Thanks
   
Title: Re: EAW Campaigns for OP: Updated
Post by: FireSoul on March 08, 2003, 10:41:52 am
Yeah, I know.
.. I changed the mission a bit for that. When the last freighter leaves, there's a "Destroy Bases" comm button with the allied listening post.  The objective is still valid after the freighters are all gone.

.. another solution:
.. you can switch to the bases (you captured them after all) and do self-destruct.



I spent a bit too much time on Batgot. It should work fine as it is now.
-- Luc