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Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => Topic started by: 111wallace111 on September 16, 2004, 08:17:24 am
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:-\So I decided to give the Asia new life by making it as an interim design between Ent. and TOS. Notice the features that are reminicent of both shows. Well here it is. I'll let you know when it is posted on my page and I'll send it to RatPack for posting there as well. Any one who would like to have this or any other ship I make on thier page just let me know....
As always kitbash as much as you want. but give credit where it is due.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/top.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/side.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/front.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/forqua.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/beauty.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/111wallace111/aftqua.jpg)
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OMG, that is great!
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http://www.geocities.com/jwallace111/index.html
ou can get it here for now remember low bandwidth.
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This is the same era as the bonaventure right? Hell, you do a burke and bonaventure like this Asia and I'll hafta bump atra's out of my tos mod. :o This might make a decent medium cruiser between the Surya and connie.
http://www.the-tcs.net/_hosted/sfproductions/randomfiles/
temporarily mirrored
Look for FCAL.rar
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THAT is WONDERFUL!! :o
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good stuff.
But. . .do I see *12* phaser mounts on the saucer?
We really need more phaser choices than 1,2 and 3.
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Hey Wallace!
Ever consider doing an "accurate" version of the Asia Class, ala the one at Starfleet Museum?
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Hey Wallace!
Ever consider doing an "accurate" version of the Asia Class, ala the one at Starfleet Museum?
Yeah I thought about it but I kinda like making people mad with my not so much like the one that someone else did models...
I perfer to do original work....
By the way in relation to the 12 phasers on the hull. I usually make the older or smaller ships in my list with lower powered phasers. This one is all phaser 2's.
Also for those that remember i am making completely new Catian/Katian and Tellerite designs based on the old versions I made a couple of years ago. For reference you can still see them at Fleetdock 13.
They will have many of the same features but will be done from scratch and be much more detailed.
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AWESOME!!!
Wallace...you are still the man!!!
Thank you mate :)
I hope to work with you again when you have some free time
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great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW, I've been trying to email u...did u get any of them?
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Awesome textures, man... the nacalles look great!
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*fapfapfapfapfapfapfap* :o
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*fapfapfapfapfapfapfap* :o
... ... oh! .. SexyLosers. . Of course. I should have recognized THAT reference. ;)
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Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.
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great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW, I've been trying to email u...did u get any of them?
yeah i did but appearently my replies have gone astray.....
The Manta thing I haven't gotten too it but i have ideas on other changes for that mesh as well and as i am bouncing around about this that and the other I am sorry its taking so long.
Any way its great to see people interested in my early stuff too. I really was learning alot about how to do this back then. If you look at some fof the older stuff I did and compare it to the more recent work you'll notice a huge difference in quality. Or at least i do. My point is, when i started i had very little idea what i was doing. All those that are just getting into this kind of thing can take from me that you can do some pretty good stuff if you stick with it. Not that mine is as good as some of the greats we've been glad to see in this community
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Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.
Ehh, you're short sighted. ;)
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great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW, I've been trying to email u...did u get any of them?
yeah i did but appearently my replies have gone astray.....
The Manta thing I haven't gotten too it but i have ideas on other changes for that mesh as well and as i am bouncing around about this that and the other I am sorry its taking so long.
Any way its great to see people interested in my early stuff too. I really was learning alot about how to do this back then. If you look at some fof the older stuff I did and compare it to the more recent work you'll notice a huge difference in quality. Or at least i do. My point is, when i started i had very little idea what i was doing. All those that are just getting into this kind of thing can take from me that you can do some pretty good stuff if you stick with it. Not that mine is as good as some of the greats we've been glad to see in this community
Did someone say Tellarites??? :D ...I did a few PreTos Tellars
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111wallace111:
How do you feel about a Saladin-style ship based on this? It would create models for the National Guard destroyers in SFB Module R8.
-- Luc
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Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.
Ehh, you're short sighted. ;)
Yes, and? Only slightly... I can still see well enough that the NX-01 makes me want to hurl, I won't though, because then I'd have to clean up...
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Maruth, in some ways I share the pain of how bad the Akiraprise design is, but not so much when you take certain elements to make 60s retro-ish designs such as the Big E first seen in 1966 and make it more realistic, or more modern. Take Dennis Bailey's U.S.S. Phoenix for example:
(http://www.lwg3d.com/v3/resources/item111-1.jpg)
Pic 1 (shown above) (http://www.lwg3d.com/v3/resources/item111-1.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.lwg3d.com/v3/resources/item111-2.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.lwg3d.com/v3/resources/item111-3.jpg)
Without making it look too much like an Akiraprise-themed design, Dennis Bailey transformed an early Constitution-class design and made it modern. More metallic-looking hull patterns and grids and more-believable thrusters and so on... It's basically a 21st-century look on an old 1960s design we all like, and much of the original design is still there. At the time when I discovered this, I saw Anduril making an attempt at making an SFC version, and to this day I still have it with me (I hope! Only way it'll be lost is if I lose track of my backed up data on CDs or one of 'em gets scratched up badly), and I enjoy this design, as it gives much respect to the original design of the Constitution-class while making it look more believable and more appealing to newcomers of the original series.
What Wallace did was a similar attempt, but with a little more influence to Akiraprise than what Dennis Bailey did to the Consitution-class. However, it still looks mostly (or basically) pre-TOS (at least what I swear by my heart to be Pre-TOS, being Masao Okazaki's perception (http://www.starfleet-museum.org/) of Pre-TOS-era. :) ). Nevertheless, a promising model, nicely-done, even the textures.
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Question for you, Chris:
Is that Dennis Baily vision of the Phoenix you have in those three pics a 3D model or is it Anduril's SFC version?
I'm a little confused...
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Love it ;)
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I know what Firesoul means about the Guard ships => this would be an ideal candidate.
I just generally have a problem with the Guard ship concept => old ships are *old* and would be too expensive to operate. New ships would be first line warships (maybe just small ones), not undergunned oversized warships that drag down resources and don't provide enough protection.
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I know what Firesoul means about the Guard ships => this would be an ideal candidate.
I just generally have a problem with the Guard ship concept => old ships are *old* and would be too expensive to operate. New ships would be first line warships (maybe just small ones), not undergunned oversized warships that drag down resources and don't provide enough protection.
Not really. If you follow the principle that the National Guard does, the Guard would be home to ships like a 24th century Excelsior or a late 23rd century Asia.
The real Nat'l Guard uses old, but servacable equipment. I'm getting a 20 year old M60 in the next few months, but it is still deadly dispite it's age and the availability of better weapons. A starship is too expensive to be thrown away even after 50+ years, and having it refitted Nat'l Guard (or ready reserve) service would be a great way to squeeze some more use out of it.
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Without making it look too much like an Akiraprise-themed design, Dennis Bailey transformed an early Constitution-class design and made it modern. More metallic-looking hull patterns and grids and more-believable thrusters and so on... It's basically a 21st-century look on an old 1960s design we all like, and much of the original design is still there. At the time when I discovered this, I saw Anduril making an attempt at making an SFC version, and to this day I still have it with me (I hope! Only way it'll be lost is if I lose track of my backed up data on CDs or one of 'em gets scratched up badly), and I enjoy this design, as it gives much respect to the original design of the Constitution-class while making it look more believable and more appealing to newcomers of the original series.
I agree, it does respect the original design.
Both models are excellent!
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Question for you, Chris:
Is that Dennis Baily vision of the Phoenix you have in those three pics a 3D model or is it Anduril's SFC version?
I'm a little confused...
Oh, the one I linked to was the 3D model of DB's. I'd actually have to find the SFC version in my room somewhere if truely needed... Aren't Anduril's ships posted somewhere though? *shrug*
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great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW, I've been trying to email u...did u get any of them?
yeah i did but appearently my replies have gone astray.....
The Manta thing I haven't gotten too it but i have ideas on other changes for that mesh as well and as i am bouncing around about this that and the other I am sorry its taking so long.
Any way its great to see people interested in my early stuff too. I really was learning alot about how to do this back then. If you look at some fof the older stuff I did and compare it to the more recent work you'll notice a huge difference in quality. Or at least i do. My point is, when i started i had very little idea what i was doing. All those that are just getting into this kind of thing can take from me that you can do some pretty good stuff if you stick with it. Not that mine is as good as some of the greats we've been glad to see in this community
Well, for not knowing what you are doing that single nacelled BOP still looks good. I've taken several others off your old site in addition to your KCL and the new bop you released. Now, not all are in BC yet but they looks fairly decent in max renders with no fx. Usualy if a model passes that test as "fair" or better, it will look ok in BC. I showed you the pix right? If not I can repost the link. I'll let you know when I put more of your stuff in, but I'll be doing a couple roms first.
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Have you ever have one of those days where every time you try to get a file it's corrupt? After conquering that little problem I have finally been able to add the ship to Jeff's page http://sfcmodsrus.0catch.com/jwallace.html
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fantasic i downloaded it the second i could she loks great im going to play around with textures next week maybe use them on some other models if thats ok with you wallace dude?
Yes mess around with it all you want
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Wallace, you interested in a heavily TOS based TNG connie?
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I dig your interpretation of the Saucer Jeff.
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Wallace, you interested in a heavily TOS based TNG connie?
TOS based TNG Connie? This sounds interesting. May I see a pic?
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i like her man. keep it up.
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Cool enough to be bumped. ;D
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Wallace, you interested in a heavily TOS based TNG connie?
Yeah. I think that might go over well.
I am not usually into TNG stuff....(old F@#$@er) but You know that might work out.
I am going to be working on some of these other reworks first though so it may be a while before i could get to it.
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*sputter*
15000+ polys!
.. I can't use this.. just that ship alone on my screen and my PC was going 11FPS. Is there a lower poly version of this ship around?
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I could do an optimize on it....
Sorry about that i have a pretty killer system so i sometimes forget that i should reduce the meshes somewhat...
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Please! Feel Free.. ;)