Dynaverse.net

Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => WIPs => Topic started by: J-O-K-E-R on September 18, 2004, 10:51:46 pm

Title: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on September 18, 2004, 10:51:46 pm

So what do ya think so far?

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 18, 2004, 10:59:08 pm

SWEEEEEEEET !!!!!!!!!!

:ufo: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :ufo:

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Sochin on September 19, 2004, 04:53:48 am

Bitching Dude!!!!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Fallen_Warrior on September 19, 2004, 05:32:49 am

.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on September 19, 2004, 11:48:41 am

Heres some more, still working on the nacelles

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: F9thRyker on September 19, 2004, 12:30:02 pm

Thats one fine ship indeed...

You should call her the Fearless class, it seems to suit her quite well  8)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J. Carney on September 19, 2004, 01:27:25 pm

If not the Fearless, certianly call it the

Invincible
or
Indefatigable (tireless, unyielding)).


I like the name Indefatigable, it was the name of the first ship Horatio Hornblower served on.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 19, 2004, 02:35:30 pm

She is part of a series of ships ... 

I'll be posting the name, class, registry etc ..  a bit later.

J_O_K_E_R  has done one heck of a job !!!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Sochin on September 19, 2004, 03:27:53 pm

The old bloke is getting quite gaurded about this aint he, the project is looking mighty fine Joker keep up the good work.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 19, 2004, 04:18:23 pm

Here is what I have so far ..   still working the details out ..  but on paper it looks promising..

here are my personal specs for the last ship to be developed (chronologically speaking by star date .. in actuality the ADD will be the last to be made)

These numbers are rough .. but not without some time taken to get the numbers extrapolated based on existing ships:

Hull class size: CA ( though built on what some refer to as a CL .. her over all design and power mass make her a low end CA)

Hull class designation by design: SeaWolf Advanced Attack series

Registry: NCC-76101 (if not taken and not out of sync with ships developed post Dominion War)

Ship Name: USS Iron Sides ( consideration) or USS Hammer Head (consideration) or USS Rapier (meaning steel blade or weapon also for consideration)

Historical reference: A direct descendant of the Sea Wolf class / Miranda Class and the USS Bass Master. All Advanced technologies including multi-vectoring attack capabilities. Released just prior to the Titan only 5 are known to exist at this time.

SPECS:

Total Mass: 22675
total impulse: apx 989
total warp usage: aprx 141 / 160
maneuverability: 1.10
shields: shld7 all sides
primary weapons: 8 phs 10F or 6 phs 10F with 2 ea Pulse phasers ( see note in thread to follow concerning pulse phasers: fixed not 360^ ? )
heavy weapons: 4 forward q-torps 1 rearward (possibly 2 rearward if power curve allows)
armor: 3
computer: 5
tractor: 5
Warp Core: 8
Impulse: 7
Thruster: 6


I am certain that there will be some tweaking ... but this ship is exactly what the Bass Master should have been.. but due to hull class and other restrictions  ... could not be. However, there is NO reason that this ship should not be as listed. ( Just my 2 cents worth )


Please note the data regarding weapons, power, hull class etc..  is based on data from Nanners GAW Mod.  Undoubtedly others will want to change this to suit their tastes.  We can debate that sort of matters at another time.

Thanks again !!  Keep up the great work   J_O_K_E_R !!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on September 19, 2004, 07:49:11 pm

Glad to see you all are liking it  ;D

As I told Old Buzzard last nite on IM, I will be out of town for a while & I'm not sure when I'll be able to resume working on this ship.
However, the modelling work is 90% done, next comes the texturing ( not my favorite area) but once this is done, It'll just be a matter of making a Pylon for a DD class. I just might (If OldBuzzard hasn't already) take this design a step further & put out a FF class.
Al I can say is be patient, I'll have your new ship to you ASAP.

Thanks again

J-O-K-E-R

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 19, 2004, 08:38:22 pm

DUDE !!   the FF too !!  cool !!  woo hoo !!

thanks man !

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Adonis on September 23, 2004, 11:16:45 am

OK, first off, nice design, secondly, a little suggestion:

Now this is an advanced design, right?

Try merging the Nacelles to the main hull, she would kick some serious ass then. or put them to the sides, not facing down.

My 2 cents :)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Starforce2 on September 23, 2004, 11:29:17 am

honestly   I think the nacelles should be tossed. The look like simple streach-a-galaxy-nacelle design, which kinda ruins   the rest of the ship which is alot more original. Perhaps Nacelles along the lines of the Chimera V1 (not smiley's thats V2) would be a better fit?


As for the ship  over all, I guess I am a bit undecided at the moment as to just what I think of it, but I'll  keep lookin.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Mackie on September 23, 2004, 01:17:04 pm

Quote from: Starforce2 on September 23, 2004, 11:29:17 am

honestly   I think the nacelles should be tossed. The look like simple streach-a-galaxy-nacelle design, which kinda ruins   the rest of the ship which is alot more original. Perhaps Nacelles along the lines of the Chimera V1 (not smiley's thats V2) would be a better fit?


As for the ship  over all, I guess I am a bit undecided at the moment as to just what I think of it, but I'll  keep lookin.

hm I thought they looked nice since they remind me of Prommy nacellas  :P

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Starforce2 on September 23, 2004, 07:20:13 pm

Quote from: Mackie on September 23, 2004, 01:17:04 pm

Quote from: Starforce2 on September 23, 2004, 11:29:17 am

honestly   I think the nacelles should be tossed. The look like simple streach-a-galaxy-nacelle design, which kinda ruins   the rest of the ship which is alot more original. Perhaps Nacelles along the lines of the Chimera V1 (not smiley's thats V2) would be a better fit?


As for the ship  over all, I guess I am a bit undecided at the moment as to just what I think of it, but I'll  keep lookin.

hm I thought they looked nice since they remind me of Prommy nacellas  :P

Prommy nacelles? Musta been some good weed.... ;D

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 23, 2004, 10:34:57 pm

The nacelles will stay.  One of the things we wanted to do was to keep certain elements of the Miranda Class evident in the design and yet a unique nacelle for the "advanced" cruiser.  For what ever it's worth though I do appreciate the input.  One thing we are looking at seriously is a slight green tint to the glows !  Their thinner, shorter profile was intentional along with keeping them closer to the hull, making them tougher to hit in a combat situation.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on September 24, 2004, 05:32:04 pm

Well, the only modelling left to do is on the nacelles.
this is not finished, its just were I had to stop at the time.
the front half are pretty much done, its the back half thats gonna be a bit tricky.
Still trying to figure out how Im gonna go about molding them to match the design pics, instead of trying to do it with textures.



For those of you that havn't seen the design pics yet, this is what its gonna look like.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 26, 2004, 01:15:56 pm

hey bud ..  I'll send ya some stuff to see what you think.  I like your work and what you are doing.  Everything looks great so far !

Sorry I've been AFK the last couple of days.  I had to put the RL  Bass Master back togeather and get ready for a tourney that we fished yesterday.  Keep up the good work..  hope to hear from ya soon.

Thanks

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 26, 2004, 10:26:54 pm

hey buddy..  I made a "patch" to commorate the new ship design:

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/MacoPatch02.jpg)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Azel on October 04, 2004, 06:45:58 pm

awesome work Joker, on a beautiful design!!!
Great job the both of you!!!

Ol'buzz, I saw your defiant thread, awesome work there too
I look foward to her finalization :)
as always you have my support
and you too Joker LOL

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 04, 2004, 07:36:33 pm

Thanks bud ..   I needed to hear that !!

There are a couple of rookie mistakes that I need to clean up on the front and bottom views of the Defiant ..


JOKER has done s super job here on this one.  The patch I put togeather above actually turned out ok as well.  I can hardly wait for Joker to get back from his trip and finish this one!  If he gets it done it will be my first model bash done completed since the Advanced Light Cruiser.

I feel like an expectant father again !!!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on October 09, 2004, 04:12:18 pm

Look at me, Im online at a truckstop, in El Paso, in my truck LOL :) How sweet is that HEHEHE


Thanks again guys, I'll be back home sometime next week (mon. or tue)

Hopefully I'll have the time to finish it.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Dizzy on October 09, 2004, 04:13:54 pm

That is freaking awesome!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 09, 2004, 05:23:43 pm

SWAAAEEEEEET !!!!

I can hardly wait !!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 17, 2004, 09:33:30 am

Great googly moogly any updates ????????? Ol'Buzzard you and J_O_K_E_R have truly done some fine work on this one.
 ;D :thumbsup:
-MP

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 17, 2004, 12:59:39 pm

He's been on the road quite a lot las two weeks ..  I hope there will be an update soon !!  ( hint..  hint ..)

 ::) ::)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on October 17, 2004, 10:15:24 pm

Sorry guys,For those of you that don't know, I'm an "Over The Road" Truck Driver, I only get maybe a day or 2 at home every week or 2.This is why you don't see me around as much as before.

No new (major) updates as of now, I'm just putting the final touches on the mesh now, minor details.
I'm hoping that Olbussard & my schedules will allow us to hash out some of the final details before I start the texturing.

BTW: While I was waiting to catch Olbuzzard, I started messing around with the DD idea.

REMBER, this is just a crued idea  ::)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Starforce2 on October 17, 2004, 11:30:25 pm

Quote from: J-O-K-E-R on October 09, 2004, 04:12:18 pm

Look at me, Im online at a truckstop, in El Paso, in my truck LOL :) How sweet is that HEHEHE


Thanks again guys, I'll be back home sometime next week (mon. or tue)

Hopefully I'll have the time to finish it.

sh*t, had I known ya were drivin in texas while I was there I'd have tried to  meet ya if our paths had crossed.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on October 18, 2004, 01:20:07 am

Quote from: Starforce2 on October 17, 2004, 11:30:25 pm

Quote from: J-O-K-E-R on October 09, 2004, 04:12:18 pm

Look at me, Im online at a truckstop, in El Paso, in my truck LOL :) How sweet is that HEHEHE


Thanks again guys, I'll be back home sometime next week (mon. or tue)

Hopefully I'll have the time to finish it.

sh*t, had I known ya were drivin in texas while I was there I'd have tried to meet ya if our paths had crossed.

Well, I leave Monroe,LA & drive straight across I-20 & I-10 to Los Angeles, CA & back again, with the return trip usually ending up in either Columbus,OH / Atlanta,GA / Orlando,FL / New Orleans,LA / Houston,TX or Dallas,TX.
and then return home to start it all over again.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 18, 2004, 07:20:59 am

HEY BUD !!

1.  Crude ???   LOL ...  I  cant' wait to see this one done too !!

WOW !!

2.  Let me know if you are in Sgf., Mo.  We can do lunch my treat ...  (  No ...  sorry Mc Donalds is out of the question ! )  ..  but Cheaders sounds good !!

 ;) ;)

BTW....   excellent job !!

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on October 24, 2004, 06:17:06 pm

Hey Dan,
Here are the close ups you asked for.
BTW: don't pay any attention to the veiwport labeled "back", this IS the front of the weapons pod.

Also, As a reminder, you'll need to get with Nanner or someone as far as the weapons & power specs go, To see if you can get all the weapons on here that you want. I'm not very good at all with the SFC3 specs.

Once you have this worked out, I'll need some pics to show me where & wich hard point goes where to corraspond with each weapon.

please label all hardpoints with the weapon of choice, & who ever writes the specs can give the correct arcs.


Well, Im off to Florida, I should be back this weekend.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 24, 2004, 08:11:51 pm

thanks ..  I'll have the front view of the deflector dish done as well as a possible texture for the torp tubes.

thanks.

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on December 06, 2004, 07:16:47 pm

Dan, You'll have to get them here for now, till I find out whats wrong with frost works server

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 06, 2004, 07:59:56 pm

got it ...  thanks !

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 09, 2004, 10:35:05 pm

here they are

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 10, 2004, 11:18:46 pm

here is a retake on the primary hull ( this time with the escape pods ) ...  and the correct file for the roll bar !!  ( sorry about that !!)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 12, 2004, 10:12:13 pm

here's the latest WIP on the Texturing .. just a few more "tweaks" ..plus the windows ....  then we add the roll bar and the nacelles.

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/AACwip11.jpg)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Sandman3D on December 13, 2004, 10:24:20 am

Lookin' good!! ;D

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 20, 2004, 08:07:01 pm

JOKER>> 

I have one last revision on this primary hull done ..  If ya want it just drop me a PM..  I'm ready for the final map on the roll bar and the nacelles.

( this ought to be fun!)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: J-O-K-E-R on December 30, 2004, 02:38:57 pm

Here's an update for ya

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Sochin on December 30, 2004, 04:01:20 pm

This babyis looking SWEET

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: Sandman3D on December 30, 2004, 08:30:20 pm

Gnarly!! ;D

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on January 01, 2005, 01:14:31 pm

WOW  ..  Santa has already came and gone ..   and we are still getting presents !!!

thanks bud !

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: stewiedude on January 01, 2005, 05:11:06 pm

very vice work fellas  :)

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: F9th0mega on January 20, 2005, 03:41:30 pm

heheh it looks soooo nice

[ever thought of puttin tiny 3d shuttles?]

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on January 20, 2005, 04:13:54 pm

Oh yes !!  that is one of Jokers trade marks ..  I have some up-dated picts I'll post after I get off of work !!

(Hhehehe  if I thought I wouldn't get shot ...  (by Joker...  ) ..  I'd post the idea with the updated bridge area ...Frankly it was a mistake on my part to remove too much of that area off of the Sovy hull  ( which is the basis of this design ...)

unfortunately it may never get done !

Title: Re: New Advanced Cruiser. Design by OldBuzzard
Post by: OlBuzzard on June 28, 2005, 09:48:47 am

Well bud .. I dunno what you had in mind ..  but here is a WIP on the hand carved version of this model.

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/AACreview100.jpg)