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Title: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on September 19, 2004, 04:53:44 pm
.. and here I am again.. trying to prepare models for a some-time-in-future release of OP+ for ships that have just been released in the SFB world. So far, I have 2 such completed models:


1- Klingon B10T Emergency BattleShip:
download: http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/klingon/fs_kb10t.zip

The Invulnerable's rear hull was destroyed in SpaceDock, leaving the Klingon fleet with a very expensive Klingon boom. The B8 was one proposal of what to do with it. The B10T was another.
(http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/klingon/fs_kb10t_1.jpg)
(http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/klingon/fs_kb10t_2.jpg)



2- Federation Strike Cruiser:
The Prometheus was built as a prototype for a competing design for which the well-known F-NCL War Cruisers obviously won. This ship has full-sized engines and saucer, but a smaller secondary hull resulting in a lghter ship: 5/6th move cost.

Kitbashed from LordSchtupp's Enterprise.
download: http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/federation/fs_fcs.zip
(http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/federation/fs_fcs1.JPG)
(http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/federation/fs_fcs2.JPG)
(http://klingon.stasis.ca/models/federation/fs_fcs3.JPG)


Have a good weekend, everyone.
-- Luc
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: markyd on September 19, 2004, 06:36:59 pm
Nice  ;)
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on September 19, 2004, 07:48:58 pm
Always nice to have TMP models. Especially non-Federation ones.

KF
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on September 19, 2004, 09:07:44 pm
Always nice to have TMP models. Especially non-Federation ones.

KF

Well, you shouldknow me by now..
My model-making is always part of a larger design. ;)

If something's TOS, it's probably for a good reason. I prefer TMP.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: zerosnark on September 20, 2004, 07:01:55 am
Excellent!

Huh. I wonder what the SFB stats for that ship are. . (may have to get some new SFB products, me thinks. . .)
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Bernard Guignard on September 21, 2004, 08:35:10 am
Always nice to have TMP models. Especially non-Federation ones.

KF

Well, you shouldknow me by now..
My model-making is always part of a larger design. ;)

If something's TOS, it's probably for a good reason. I prefer TMP.

Hi Luc
   If I could make a suggestion that The Belknap class which is tmp fits the bill for a strike cruiser. and there is a model of it floating around on the various web sites.

Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 21, 2004, 11:46:21 am
Excellent!

Huh. I wonder what the SFB stats for that ship are. . (may have to get some new SFB products, me thinks. . .)

36 power and a 5/6 move cost.   I think i found my newest D5D-Killer  ;D
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on September 21, 2004, 01:52:04 pm

Hi Luc
   If I could make a suggestion that The Belknap class which is tmp fits the bill for a strike cruiser. and there is a model of it floating around on the various web sites.

Perhaps I can explain differently?
In SFB, module R9, this ship was built as a prototype in Y165. There were no others and I doubt StarFleet would have updated its systems to TMP...
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Starforce2 on September 21, 2004, 03:57:30 pm
Mind if I use that connie kitbash?
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on September 21, 2004, 04:46:37 pm
Mind if I use that connie kitbash?

I don't mind at all since I kitbashed it from other stuff myself.
question: what's it for? :)
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: zerosnark on September 22, 2004, 10:08:07 am
36 power and 5/6 move cost. huh. Probably a full CC+ weapons suite to boot. huh. Good as a one-off ship.

I guess I should give ADB some money and buy the last few books. I kind of lost interest in the SSD's somewhere along the line. . .when all the BCH's became so interchangable and everyone went drone crazy. ut I keep seeing these new ships . . . I gotta get caught up! In SFC, I have become a big fan of the Fed DNL and C5.

As for the Belknap Strike Cruiser: I am a big fan of this ship. I tend to use this in the CB slot. I play the ship as a straight CB. Having two G racks gives the ship good drone kill abilities, leaving all those nasty phasers for anti-ship work. If you want to give it more of the Belknap flavor, you could give the side phasers true LS/RS arcs, considering the reduced profiles of the warp engines. . . .heck I think I am going to modify my ship list right now to do that very thing.. . . . . . .

Weapons on the Belknap in the books are fairly similar but slightly heavier than the Enterprise class. ( I think 12 phasers on the Saucer, and two right aft.. . .don't have the books handy).

Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Brezgonne on September 22, 2004, 10:41:45 am
It's slightly less than a CC+'s weapons suite.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Starforce2 on September 22, 2004, 01:34:36 pm
you know,   I was digging through my heap of crap on my HD and I found a TOS belknap model....
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: zerosnark on September 22, 2004, 08:56:17 pm
Very cool!
Is that ship (TOS Belknap) on the web anywhere?

If not. . .email may be the way!

Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Age on December 21, 2004, 02:32:35 pm
    What would a TMP version of the F-CS look like and weaponery?
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: USS Mariner on December 21, 2004, 03:20:23 pm
you know,   I was digging through my heap of crap on my HD and I found a TOS belknap model....

Didn't Anduril make one, which Atheorhaven used to make his requested "Athabaska" from?
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on December 21, 2004, 04:58:33 pm
    What would a TMP version of the F-CS look like and weaponery?

Look like? same basic shape.
Weaponry? Why would that be any different?
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: J. Carney on December 21, 2004, 05:10:10 pm
    What would a TMP version of the F-CS look like and weaponery?

Weaponry? Why would that be any different?

I'm guessing, FS, that Age was refering to what the ship originally carries and any refits that would be available beyond the standard + and G-rack refits- like the F-CAR adding a 4th pair of phasers to cover the rear arc.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Age on December 21, 2004, 05:28:35 pm
   I thought this was suppose to be a cheesy ship and I guess it will look like alll the other TMP style ships.You bottom one do look nice though.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on December 21, 2004, 06:21:25 pm
   I thought this was suppose to be a cheesy ship and I guess it will look like alll the other TMP style ships.You bottom one do look nice though.

It is a cheese ship becuase of its powercurve. 4 photons, and a certain number of ph1s, as well as .. 2 drones was it?
.. all this on a ship with a move cost of 5/6. 38 power?
.. it can go speed 30 with 25 power spent.. that leaves a lot of overhead.. in fact enough to hold all the photons, have ECM, etc. All this as early as Y165. For Y165, it's a very interesting ship. We'll have to see on the D2 how it performs, however.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: zerosnark on December 23, 2004, 10:59:39 pm
Yeah, basically a CA+ with 5/6 move cost. Ouch!
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Dizzy on December 24, 2004, 12:24:26 am
my gosh, firesoul, those pods... they suk. Send me the textures and ill fix them for you...
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on December 24, 2004, 06:02:55 pm
my gosh, firesoul, those pods... they suk. Send me the textures and ill fix them for you...

EmeraldEdge did 'em for me. If you want to take a crack at it, give it a shot. Just download the ship above.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Dizzy on December 27, 2004, 03:26:06 am


EmeraldEdge did 'em for me.

Hah! Just throw me under the bus why dont you. :P

EE, I'm talking about how the textures dont match the ship is all. I still love ya. ;)
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: FireSoul on December 28, 2004, 11:25:50 am


EmeraldEdge did 'em for me.

Hah! Just throw me under the bus why dont you. :P

EE, I'm talking about how the textures dont match the ship is all. I still love ya. ;)

Of COURSE they don't match the ship. They are detachable pods! This is fully intentional.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: Magnum357 on December 29, 2004, 12:37:42 am
That was one thing I never could understand about Star Trek and why I liked SFB in some ways better.  In Star Trek, they always make Klingons use Green hulls, but in SFB they use the dark Grey.  Maybe the Green is suppose to do something with the cloak, don't know, in Star Trek.  But I've always been more fond of the Grey color look of SFB for Klingons. 

Oh, by the way FS, nice work.
Title: Re: SFB module R9 ships: F-CS, K-B10T
Post by: E_Look on December 29, 2004, 11:32:36 am
I thought it was TOS, TMP- gray hulls and TNG & later- blue/green hulls.  I don't know anything about SFB.