I predict Miami wins by 6! Olindo takes home the game ball.
-S'Cipio
Ricky Williams, my current choice for 2nd most bonehead NFL player ever. (#1 - Cary Collins)
I could name five different restaurants down here that are filled with ravenous fans wearing black and gold every weekend
QuoteI could name five different restaurants down here that are filled with ravenous fans wearing black and gold every weekend
Coming from a Steelers fan...... ::)
Hey Bearslayer. Glad to hear there is another Steelers fan in our community. I do live in Charlotte, NC, but I am in good company. There are LOTS of Steelers fans here. I could name five different restaurants down here that are filled with ravenous fans wearing black and gold every weekend. It's almost funny to see the conversion of Charlotte from ACC basketball town to thinking it is a NFL football town. I still get pissed off when 1/3 of the fans leave early to "beat traffic". Ya know, you aren't beating traffic if you are leaving when 20 thousand others do as well. Yeesh!!
Agave
He-he... Some time in Oct there is a beer festival I am supposed to work in Charlotte.
Want to go beer tasting?
I predict Miami wins by 6! Olindo takes home the game ball.
-S'Cipio
Well even should he earn it, I would bet on him dropping it at least twice on the way home, given the showing last season of ball dropping by the Miami recievers..... ;D
Ok, on to the fabled black and gold of the Steelers. Oh where to start? Running backs. The trio of Staley, Bettis (ole Fat ass as my friends call him), and Haynes will have a field day with the refocused running game of the Steelers.
Quarterback. No Tommy Maddox starting his Sunday. "Big Ben" Roethlisberger will be starting, our #1 draft pick from Miami-OH last year. I can't think of a better game for him to be starting. He will have his rookie mistakes, but the good will overcome the bad.
Add in here his great receiving core of Burress, Ward, Randle El, and Riemersma(TE).
Then he should start at wide reciever given your other "talent" at that position.... ;D
Olindo is the kicker, Chuut, he doesn't drop passes. I'm granting him the game ball and a final score divisible by 3 for two reasons:
P.S. My prediction is for a steel harpoon to embed itself in the Dolphins, Steelers by 10.
Bump just because I really hate the Dolphins...... ;D
P.S. My prediction is for a steel harpoon to embed itself in the Dolphins, Steelers by 10.
My Cowboys lost. ::sniff::
Undefeated Dolphins nowhere near perfect
Wednesday, November 19th, 2003
By Jim Margalus
The Chiefs lost their first game of the season last week, leaving a total of zero undefeated teams in the NFL this year.
As usual, the members of the 1972 Miami Dolphins, the only team to go undefeated through an NFL season, held a champagne toast to commemorate their uniqueness, and in the process made themselves a great example of bad sportsmanship once more.
For some reason, sportscasters adore the idea of the likes of Bob Griese, Larry Csonka and Paul Warfield celebrating both their achievement and the failure of others. Perhaps there?s something attractive about watching grown men reveal their insecurities.
There is no need to revel in the failure of another team, and certainly no need to put a hex on teams trying to climb that mountain, like they did with the 1985 Bears - especially for a record that can?t even be broken.
The Dolphins went 17-0 that year ? 14-0 through the regular season, plus three post-season wins. An undefeated team would win 19 games due to two extra games during the regular season.
But numbers are not what is at stake here. The Dolphins were undefeated - they?ve been remembered for that ever since, and they will be remembered for that for years to come. Undefeated is enough, and the number of wins is a mere formality.
Whether another team wins every game does nothing to hurt that Dolphins team?s image. But perhaps those Dolphins are scared of being the worst undefeated team in NFL history, should another team duplicate that achievement.
Miami that year had two 1,000-yard rushers in Larry Csonka and Mercury Morris and a bunch of other memorable players, but what else did they have going for them?
Only the easiest schedule in the NFL. The Dolphins? combined schedule amounted to 70-122-4. That means the Dolphins? average opponent won only 5 games that year during the regular season, which is not a gauntlet by any means.
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana fell one game short of perfection in 1984.
Even with the great amount of parity yielding pretty mediocre teams these days, a schedule-maker would be hard-pressed to create one as easy as that. The Dolphins would have practically been a disappointment had they lost even one or two games that year.
The 1984 San Francisco 49ers and those ?85 Bears capped off their one-loss seasons with Sherman-esque marches through the playoffs and dominating wins in the Super Bowl. The Dolphins beat the Washington Redskins 14-7 in Super Bowl VII, with the most memorable play being Miami kicker Garo Yepremian?s pathetic empty-handed ?pass? right into Washington?s Mike Bass? arms, which Bass returned for the lone Redskins score.
So perhaps the 1972 Dolphins know deep down in the cockles of their hearts that they had it easy that year, and any future team that finished the season undefeated would do it under assumably more difficult circumstances.
Walter Payton is greater than Emmitt Smith, despite what the numbers may say.
Either way, you didn?t hear about the family of Roger Maris celebrating every year somebody fell short of his mark of 60 homers that he set in 1960. Maris played in a live-ball era with a left-handed swing that was tailor-made for the short right-field porch in Yankee Stadium, giving him an advantage like the Dolphins had with their schedule.
Connie Payton didn?t call Emmitt Smith?s house early in the morning before game days trying to keep him from running his best and breaking
her husband Walter?s rushing record.
With Maris and Payton (and for a very short period Mark McGwire), they had shatterable records ? numbers that could be surpassed, resulting possibly in a life of obscurity for the once-record holder. This isn?t possible with the Dolphins. Their record is an idea instead of a number, and that idea can't be surpassed unless a team somehow had minus-one in the loss column. Even David Stern couldn?t give that to the Los Angeles Lakers.
There's a reason Garo's mishap was the only memorable thing about Super Bowl VII.
Even though the stakes are much higher when a number is in question, being No. 2 doesn?t tarnish an image. Smith now has the most rushing yards in NFL history, and still Payton, Jim Brown and Barry Sanders are considered better running backs by basically everybody. Hank Aaron has 41 more homers in his lifetime than Babe Ruth, but most would consider Ruth the premier power hitter in the game.
History is kind to those who set records, even if they don?t last, and the 1972 Dolphins should have realized this by now. They played the perfect season, which is as admirable a feat as any in sports. Chances are they won?t have much company, if any.
The Dolphins may never see it this way, and every year they?ll continue to make fools of themselves. The last team will fall from the ranks of the unbeaten, the champagne glasses will clink, and those Dolphins will show how men who never lost can still be such big losers.
My Cowboys lost. ::sniff::
The only good part of this whole thread!
Sorry Dizz, but misery loves company.
And no, sorry, this does not break Miami's record. The Pats unbeaten streak crosses over two seasons, giving them a whole off-season for them to freshen up, plug wholes in their lineup, and face opponents (like Miami) who have had sudden wholes appear in their lineup during the offseason.
They are still doing a fantastic job as a franchise. If they make it back to the superbowl, I'll be pulling for them. They are not, however, one squad of guys doing an entire season unbeaten. At least not yet. Talk to me in November and maybe I'll have something to worry about.I'm hoping the Pats get through next week's Seahawks then the Jets the week after. That will be the best indication of whether the Pats can join Miami this year, or are your boys still the luckiest boys in the NFL... ;)
In the meantime, I'll just worry about another "perfect" season by the weakened Dolphins. (Just not perfect in the way that I'd like this time.....)
-S'Cipio
<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>
<sniff>
<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>
<sniff>
Here is an interesting article from last year for ya Scippy....... ;)
For your reference, I am not referring to Miami having lost their distinction as the only undefeated-in-a-season team tag.
I am talking about the fact that Miami, like 4 other teams, had the record of longest winning streak that spans 2 seasons. As of the start of this season, the record was 18 games.
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-S'Cipio
PS: Julin, you are a bastard! Rub a little more salt into the wound, why don't you! :P ;)
He also seems to come from a very negative viewpoint: that, today's athletes have to face conditions so much more difficult and it is unlikely anyone will ever have a perfect season again. He forgets that today's athletes face more difficult opposition, but are also themselves much more powerful and efficient.
Only the easiest schedule in the NFL. The Dolphins? combined schedule amounted to 70-122-4. That means the Dolphins? average opponent won only 5 games that year during the regular season, which is not a gauntlet by any means.
My prediction is that it wont take long for Lepton to find this post, report it and get it moved...
My prediction is that it wont take long for Lepton to find this post, report it and get it moved...
Nah - has nothing to do with his guy losing in an election. ;)
Curse those damn Eagles!!<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>
<sniff>
Only the strong will survive. Go Eagles!!
Piffle.
The Cowboys are the Yankees of football.
Piffle.
The Cowboys are the Yankees of football.
How dare you blasphemy my Yankees
I don't recall the Yankees calling themselves "America's Team"
I don't recall the Yankees calling themselves "America's Team"
I thought that was the Atlanta Braves.... you know, the guys that can't fill a stadium even during a playoff game....::)
I don't recall the Yankees calling themselves "America's Team"
I thought that was the Atlanta Braves.... you know, the guys that can't fill a stadium even during a playoff game....::)