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Title: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 09, 2004, 01:48:12 pm
(http://www.the-tcs.net/p81/1.jpg)

(http://www.the-tcs.net/p81/2.jpg)

so some of you might be wondering whats gonna be different about this one P81?

well, ill tell you. here is my plan. this time out i want to define more of the ship with mesh structure that the texture can more easily and effectivly support. in the  above images u can see this already by the way i actually modeled the defector shield lines as the shape of the hull, along with the RCS thrusters and the port and starboard docking bays. there will be a poly lowering phase for LODs btw which will rely more heavily on the texture.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Dizzy on October 09, 2004, 02:24:34 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: CC22 on October 09, 2004, 02:26:29 pm
Wow, looks like its going to be a great model. Good idea modelling the gridlines and details like that. How many polys you planning it to be?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Age on October 09, 2004, 02:30:34 pm
What type of utility is that not model viewer?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 09, 2004, 02:39:01 pm
the polies on it so far are 1172.

the utility is my model program, maya.

ill post soem mroe screens today as i continue to add detail.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: FoaS_XC on October 09, 2004, 02:40:16 pm
:thumbsup:

Ditto, with much joy
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Rat Boy on October 09, 2004, 02:40:37 pm
The master returns...
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 09, 2004, 03:54:04 pm
The master returns...

Exactly what I was thinking bud !!

Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 09, 2004, 04:08:34 pm
(http://www.the-tcs.net/p81/3.jpg)


here is a closeup of the bridge i just added.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: darkthunder on October 09, 2004, 05:12:41 pm
I agree with the above posters: The Master has indeed returned. And your new Constitution Class looks great in my opinion. Your fed ships (though not always problem free) have long been very good looking ships. I'm glad to see a replacement for the Constitution Class. And this one looks a lot better then the old version. I hope you intend to re-create more ships after this using the same skill you now have. I know for one, the Galaxy and Ambassador could use a facelift :)

Keep up the good work. I wish I was half as good as you, then at least my models would be decent :P
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 09, 2004, 05:32:01 pm

Keep up the good work. I wish I was half as good as you, then at least my models would be decent :P

Right now I would settle for the programs and a good working knowledge of utilizing the tools appropriately.  The rest comes with time, experience ...  and of course the talent to see the WIP in your mind as you do one of these !!

Thanks P-81 for sharing your work ..  and talent
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 09, 2004, 06:17:14 pm
yea im really getting into making this ship so ill probably go ahead and install sfc:op and make a few of my old FASA favorites too.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Dizzy on October 09, 2004, 06:37:35 pm
 :woot:
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Dawntreader on October 09, 2004, 07:04:04 pm
Great details.  Can't wait to see more. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on October 09, 2004, 07:47:16 pm
yea im really getting into making this ship so ill probably go ahead and install sfc:op and make a few of my old FASA favorites too.

LOL,

was thinking the same thing time to install and start back up again. I can warn you now though that OP doesn't run on XP unless someone comes by and tells us where to find the download site that has the corrected files that Interplay released.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 09, 2004, 08:22:59 pm
sh*t.. so no OP on xp huh?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Rod ONeal on October 09, 2004, 08:50:42 pm
Nah, OP runs fine on XP. Some people have reported probs, but that's always the case with any game on any OS.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 09, 2004, 08:53:36 pm
sh*t.. so no OP on xp huh?


uhh  Ya might check with Nanner or some of the guys on the D-2 forums first on that one before jumping to conclusions.

( I would try to help ...  but lack the tech expertise to so !)
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Tus-XC on October 09, 2004, 10:26:00 pm

I can warn you now though that OP doesn't run on XP unless someone comes by and tells us where to find the download site that has the corrected files that Interplay released.

your thinking of the wrong game bud, SFC1 doesn't run on xp unless you download the new patch that pestalence(sp) did up.  the patch includes the nocd fix so that you can play sfc1 on xp.  on the other hand sfc op runs quite well on my xp machine

Robert
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Sapharite on October 10, 2004, 07:28:34 am
Well I don't want to make you bored while saying that she looks awesome but it's true. She's awesome  :) She'll be propably the first model made for the community with such detailed mesh. On the other hand it'll be great cause maps will only dress her up :D  :o LOL

BTW Rick Op runs fine under XP. This guy misread SFC1 with SFC:OP. At least it is currently running on my mashine under Win XP :D
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 09:59:30 am
(http://www.the-tcs.net/p81/4.jpg)

impulse drive i added to the saucer mesh this morning.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: markyd on October 10, 2004, 10:05:13 am
What is the poly count as it stands??

Thanks

(sorry im being rude) - VERY nice work by the way....  ;)
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 10:11:01 am
its int he window, 1704 ruight now. i think this saucer will probably be topped at 2k polies.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: darkthunder on October 10, 2004, 11:17:21 am
Sweet looking. Cant wait to see the rest of her :P
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: -LB- on October 10, 2004, 01:04:24 pm
so, I guess this means I have re-do one of MY older models now too.......
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 01:21:22 pm
so, I guess this means I have re-do one of MY older models now too.......

i really think this is a good trend.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 02:18:33 pm
(http://www.the-tcs.net/p81/5.jpg)

saucer is comeplete at 1860 polies. i will be starting the second hull tonight.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Rat Boy on October 10, 2004, 02:25:21 pm
Will this have more pollies than your old one?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: S33K100 on October 10, 2004, 03:17:46 pm
At this rate it sounds like it'll be at least double - old one was around 3000 IIRC, and the saucer on this one will take 2/3rds of that. Nice idea making the mesh according to the grid lines of the ship and all that P81.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Mackie on October 10, 2004, 03:20:51 pm
overally just make sure i can 'bash with it :p
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on October 10, 2004, 03:23:37 pm
pneumonic81,

Have a question.

If I remember right did not the lower hull and engines use to require more polys than the saucer. Maybe maybe not but I remeber these things use to be the poly heavy part. Maybe it was because you came up with a way to lower saucer polys, but I thought this is where most of the the details were on the model.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: S33K100 on October 10, 2004, 03:28:28 pm
I can't be sure but judging by the wireframe pics it looks like P81 has welded(don't know the techy term) the mesh so that there's only mesh where it'll be visible, which is not kitbasher friendly, but I can't be sure from those pics.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 04:32:52 pm
this saucer is all one peice, inf act when im done the main model will be all one peice casue ti renders better in games. however i will also provide engines, hull and sacuer w/ closed and mapped holes for u kitbashers.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: NannerSlug on October 10, 2004, 05:11:38 pm
<grins>
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Centurus on October 10, 2004, 09:41:02 pm
I think I'm in LOVE!!!  Is it illegal to marry a Constitution class starship?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Dizzy on October 10, 2004, 09:47:30 pm
Is it illegal to marry a Constitution class starship? (in response to P81's latest Connie design)

Heh, writing that down for most memorable SFC quotes. ;)
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Centurus on October 10, 2004, 10:16:12 pm
Is it illegal to marry a Constitution class starship? (in response to P81's latest Connie design)

Heh, writing that down for most memorable SFC quotes. ;)

Go right ahead.  :-D 
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 10, 2004, 10:23:06 pm
I think I'm in LOVE!!!  Is it illegal to marry a Constitution class starship?

well i think onyl in some states.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on October 10, 2004, 11:54:20 pm
I think I'm in LOVE!!!  Is it illegal to marry a Constitution class starship?


If you do you better hope she doesn't roll over on to at night. Can imagine the sound it would make if she snored?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 11, 2004, 07:24:16 am
btw i wanted to mention seemless modeling is a GOOD idea for u modelers out there and i suggest u learn it. it has many beneifits cause remeber that game engine renderers are very poor compared to model program renderers like max. what might look good in max will look horrible in game. seem less models help discourage Z-fighting, help with making clean smoothing groups, and it defines merging shapes much better.

for u kitbashers, parts form seamless modeles can always be made. and with a little modeling skill u can take parts and make them into a seamless mdoel too by leanrign how the bring objects together and remaping UV coordinates.

good luck all.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Don Karnage on October 11, 2004, 01:58:50 pm
yea im really getting into making this ship so ill probably go ahead and install sfc:op and make a few of my old FASA favorites too.

LOL,

was thinking the same thing time to install and start back up again. I can warn you now though that OP doesn't run on XP unless someone comes by and tells us where to find the download site that has the corrected files that Interplay released.


but eaw and op are working fine with xp, i have win xp the patch  2552 i think and its working fine, just shipedit that have a problem.
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Sapharite on October 11, 2004, 02:49:48 pm
Yeah lates OP Patch is kicking ass. Thanks to Atrahasis poll and David Farrel's response to it. Remember two new hardpoints :D (straight left and straight right like "FA" is forward for instance) :D
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Hollis J Wood on October 12, 2004, 08:57:49 am
verry nice I am loving it already
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Centurus on October 18, 2004, 10:21:38 pm
How is this ship coming along?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 28, 2004, 07:00:45 am
well as some of u know the game i was working on in RL, jump to lightspeed, just released and im overwherelmed with work. hopefulyl things will settle down at some point and i can get back on it
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: kingconstantine on October 28, 2004, 10:07:36 am
YOUR WORKING ON JTL?

DID YOU WORK ON GALAXIES?  IF DO ILL AVE REAT FUN TRYING TO GUSS WHICH WORK IS YOURS...
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: pneumonic81 on October 28, 2004, 03:02:14 pm
the last ships i worked on in JTL was the new falcon, and the sorosuub 3000
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: kingconstantine on October 29, 2004, 12:01:38 pm
thats good work man.  did you work on galaxies?
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: Sapharite on December 09, 2004, 03:59:33 am
Any news on this one Connie??  :D
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: F9thRyker on December 17, 2004, 10:23:01 pm
Bee- Uhe - Mme - Pee - Y?

Because I... GOTTA  ;D
Title: Re: Constitution WIP
Post by: F9th0mega on December 17, 2004, 10:27:13 pm
god damn beautiful ship p81...

/me drools