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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_navy_101804,00.html
New Navy Uniforms Announced
Associated Press
October 18, 2004
WASHINGTON - The Navy introduced a set of concept working uniforms for Sailors E-1 through O-10 Oct. 18, in response to the fleet?s feedback on current uniforms. The new uniforms, which will begin wear-testing this winter, were unveiled aboard USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) at an All Hands call with Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) (SS/AW) Terry D. Scott.
The Navy Working Uniform (NWU) concepts offer four variations to be tested in the fleet. Each variation offers a combination of different patterns, dominant colors, fabric finishes and designs.
Scott said these concepts are only the initial version of what the working uniform may ultimately look like. To assist in deciding exactly what uniforms Sailors will be wearing, Task Force Uniform (TFU) developed a set of concept uniforms.
"The concept uniforms are much like a concept car at an auto show," Scott said. "It?s only a preliminary design of the final model, and judging from the fleet?s response, we can make modifications to the final design."
The Task Force Uniform initiative began after Sailors in the fleet expressed their concerns about the current status of Navy uniforms. Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Vern Clark determined there should be an evaluation of the uniform requirements.
Upon completion of a Navywide survey last year, TFU went to work on interpreting more than 40,000 surveys with the help of an organizational psychologist to determine what changes Sailors desired. Some of the concerns expressed were that there are too many uniforms, they wear out quickly and are difficult to maintain. They also commented on the need for a working uniform that would be practical in different working environments and climates. The majority of respondents said they preferred a Battle Dress Uniform (BDU) style working uniform.The Navy Working Uniform is being designed to take the place of utilities, wash khaki, coveralls, woodland green, aviation green, winter working blue and tropical working uniforms. The normal wear life is designed to last up to 18 months, compared to the current wear life of six months for the working uniform.
The working uniform design is not intended to camouflage Sailors against the background of a ship. Instead, the multiple colors on the uniform - navy blue, deck gray, haze gray and black - are common in the maritime working environment, making them a more practical choice.
"What we have heard from Sailors aboard ship is if they get a small spot of paint or grease on a pair of solid-color utilities or coveralls, it?s easily visible and detracts from the uniform?s appearance," Scott said. "With the Navy Working Uniform?s multicolor pattern, a small spot or stain may be almost entirely unnoticeable."
Another positive aspect of a multicolor pattern is that wrinkles caused by daily wear would be less visible, and the new uniforms will be wash and wear with no ironing required.
"Why should we need to iron a working uniform? The NWU fabric treatment will be a considerable improvement over the previous working uniforms," said Scott. The proposed plan is for the NWU to be the primary working uniform used in all Navy communities and duties, including watchstanding. The NWU is also being designed for wear outside the gate. Sailors will be able to go off base without having to change from the working uniform into their service uniform or civilian clothes.
With the CNO?s approval for a wear test, the Navy is working to provide as many possible options for Sailors to choose from during the wear-test period.
Among the options will be:
- Woodland versus digital pattern
- Blue versus gray as the uniform?s predominant color
- Tapered blouse versus standard-style blouse
- Rounded versus pointed collar
- Performance T-shirt versus cotton undershirt
- Pleated versus non-pleated trousers
- Elastic versus adjustable waistband
- Button versus zipper trousers
- No-polish suede versus polished leather boots
- 8-point versus round top cover
- Pocket locations and design
The Navy also plans to wear test a blue parka that will ultimately match the design pattern of the final working uniform. The parka will be designed for wear in various weather conditions, including sub-freezing temperatures, wind, and heavy rain.
Although the NWU was designed to address the concerns of the fleet, Scott said a test of how the uniforms will truly respond to the needs of Sailors can only be determined by a fleetwide wear test and evaluation before being mass produced.
The fleetwide wear test scheduled to begin this winter, will be conducted at commands around the world, and across the spectrum of different platforms. Approximately 60 participants, both male and female, officer and enlisted, will wear-test these concept uniforms at each of the following commands/locations:
USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group (CVN 71), Norfolk, Va.
USS Tarawa, (LHA 1), San Diego
USS Germantown, (LSD 42), San Diego, Calif.
USS Chung-Hoon, (DDG 93), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Iwo Jima, (LHD 7), Norfolk, Va.
USS McFaul, (DDG 74), Norfolk, Va.
USS Philippine Sea, (CG 58), Mayport, Fla.
USS San Francisco, (SSN 711) (Guam)
Patrol Squadron (VP) 1 (Whidbey Island, Wash.)
Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron (VAQ 137), Whidbey Island, Wash.
Patrol Squadron (VP) 26, Brunswick, Maine/Aviation Intermediate Maintenance Dept., Brunswick, Maine
Afloat Training Group, Norfolk, Va.
Afloat Training Group, San Diego
Recruit Training Command, Great Lakes, Ill.
Master-at-Arms "A" School, San Antonio
Special Warfare Logistic Support Group, San Diego
Naval Mobile Construction Battalion, Port Hueneme, Calif.
Amphibious Construction Battalion 2, Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek, Va.
Naval Station Rota, Spain
Naval Air Facility Atsugi, Japan
Naval Coastal Warfare Squadron 25, Norfolk, Va.
"We realize that there are Sailors out there who are eager to receive the NWUs, but we are determined to do this the right way and come up with a uniform that our Sailors will appreciate," Scott said.
Shore Sailor of the Year (SSOY) Chief Dental Technician Michele Villagran had a chance to see preliminary designs of the concept uniforms during the SSOY selection process. She said she liked the look and feel of the lightweight, yet sturdy, material.
"Overall, I think they look more professional, and I think the majority of the fleet will be happy with them," Villagran said. "It will definitely be a new and very much needed look for the Navy."
The vision of Task Force Uniform is to give Sailors a cost-effective set of uniforms presenting a professional appearance, recognizing naval heritage, and offering versatility, safety, ease of maintenance and storage, utility and comfort.
Task Force Uniform also plans to announce the year-round service uniform concepts for E-1 through E-6 in the coming weeks and an announcement about specifics of those wear testing dates and areas to follow.
For more information about Task Force Uniform, or to view or download photos, visit www.news.navy.mil.
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Stephen
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You forgot to include this....
(http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_041018-N-0000X-001.jpg)
:rofl:
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Doh! I did didn't I. ;)
Stephen
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Boy, looks like we are ALL getting new clothes.
Sucks to be some of the guys I know in ROTC- by the time they get comissions they will have to pay for TWO uniform issues.
Great to be enlisted right now... and get it for free.
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Mommy...why are those painters carrying guns?
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So an option is Woodland vs Digital Camo pattern? I thought everyone was going to the digital because it hid you better. Then again, why does the Navy need Camo in the first place? Wouldn't it be better to give them something bright orange so they could be spotted if they ended up overboard?
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Mommy...why are those painters carrying guns?
ROFL... yeah... ESPECIALLY the new USAF fatigues. I got chewed out not too long ago because I saw this little guy walking out of the CLass 6 in them on Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, AL and I started laughing. (http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/contrib/blackeye/lol.gif)
How'd that go...?
NOT TOO GOOD. (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif)
That 'little guy' that looked like the guy that would never make it any higher than TechSgt. was THE BASE COMMANDER- a fricking BRIGADEER GRNERAL.
And sees a Spec/4 giggling at him...
You can guess what came next...
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Mommy...why are those painters carrying guns?
ROFL... yeah... ESPECIALLY the new USAF fatigues. I got chewed out not too long ago because I saw this little guy walking out of the CLass 6 in them on Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, AL and I started laughing. ([url]http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/contrib/blackeye/lol.gif[/url])
How'd that go...?
NOT TOO GOOD. ([url]http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif[/url])
That 'little guy' that looked like the guy that would never make it any higher than TechSgt. was THE BASE COMMANDER- a fricking BRIGADEER GRNERAL.
And sees a Spec/4 giggling at him...
You can guess what came next...
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Oh
My
God
That could NOT have been good.
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Mommy...why are those painters carrying guns?
ROFL... yeah... ESPECIALLY the new USAF fatigues. I got chewed out not too long ago because I saw this little guy walking out of the CLass 6 in them on Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, AL and I started laughing. ([url]http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/contrib/blackeye/lol.gif[/url])
How'd that go...?
NOT TOO GOOD. ([url]http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif[/url])
That 'little guy' that looked like the guy that would never make it any higher than TechSgt. was THE BASE COMMANDER- a fricking BRIGADEER GRNERAL.
And sees a Spec/4 giggling at him...
You can guess what came next...
([url]http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/sarge/Guillotine_anim.gif[/url])
Oy! That must of hit you like a rock. :brickwall:
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Well, let's just say that I was too busy marveling at the man's command of the obsenities available in the English language (so I did not know even EXISTED) and the incrediable talent that he displayed by pursuing this diatribe with full use of both hands while never allowing the case of beer on his sholder to become unbalanced and hit the ground to be truely offended.
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So an option is Woodland vs Digital Camo pattern? I thought everyone was going to the digital because it hid you better. Then again, why does the Navy need Camo in the first place? Wouldn't it be better to give them something bright orange so they could be spotted if they ended up overboard?
Well the Navy is trying to reduce the amount of uniforms that we need for our seabag.
Issues are as such;
Now- Utilities: This uniform (aka Dungarees-light blue top dark blue trousers) was supposed to be the general working uniform but,
as the requirements for maintaining the uniform went up, so did the price. On top of that this uniform couldn't be worn out of the base unless you were going straight home with the exception of getting gas for your vehicle.
Working seasonal uniforms: Summer Whites (short sleeve button down whites or milk man uniforms) and Winter(Black long sleeve aka "Johnny Cash or SS uniforms) been around for a while but as stated above needed to be condensed so, the new uniform will be a multi seasonal replacement.
Dress uniforms (aka Cracker Jacks) Not being touched by CNO directive. Tradition is not being upgraded on this one with the slight exception on the Dress Whites, they might get a bit of Piping to make them less plain.
And the now present Coveralls: Well this uniform was never intended to get into the sea bag but as the Utilities became a pretty shipboard uniform, they needed a dirty uniform unfortunately, this also went astray with shipboard politicking. As they were being more prominent, they were also being more regulated and dressed up. Nuff said, if you were in the military, you can see the mess this is building up to.
Khakis (multiple types for the senior enlisted [E7 and up] and the Officers) This uniform also has many different variations and needed addressing.
There are many other uniforms for specail purposes (example BDUs for security, Seabees, Divers, and Spec Ops) but I'm not getting in to these.
The reason for the BDU style uniform is mainly to get rid of ;Khakis, Utilities, Coveralls. and make them a central working uniform from E-1 through O-10 for shipboard and shore based useage and have a uniform that they would allow off base like the other services. The other uniforms will follow but, the Navy isn't rushing to allow the fleet to adapt.
Now for the Camo issue, well since the days of past, the working uniforms had a camouflage type of function for a time of war to evade capture if the ship went down. It was much harder for your enemy to see a blue potential prisoner than a bright orange one. I know you going to mention something about having friendlies spotting you and all, but, that is what we have flares and markers for. As for the few that get lost at sea during deployments from falling over the side, that is what we hope for our shipmates who are standing the watch and can spot a person overboard and hopefully the can throw that ring towards you with the brite shiny beacon.
As for my opinion on the Camo bit, I perfer to have a solid color but someone higher up than me with the uber wisdom wants one or the other so, I'd go with the Digi print, it hides the stains from working in the engineroom (the pit or snipes alley) and it doesn't look as if I'm getting ready for urban combat. LOL.
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Well, let's just say that I was too busy marveling at the man's command of the obsenities available in the English language (so I did not know even EXISTED) and the incrediable talent that he displayed by pursuing this diatribe with full use of both hands while never allowing the case of beer on his sholder to become unbalanced and hit the ground to be truely offended.
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Wow, it was obvious he went to college. LOL!
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Yeah, I can see those on our little marine boys. They're cute.
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Yeah, I can see those on our little marine boys. They're cute.
Have you been hanging around TheJudge lately Clark?
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:lol:
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Yeah, I can see those on our little marine boys. They're cute.
Have you been hanging around TheJudge lately Clark?
:smackhead: