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Post by: Fallen_Warrior on October 26, 2004, 06:24:01 am
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Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: markyd on October 26, 2004, 06:52:32 am
Sounds like a big project look forward to seeing your result... and as for the above mentioned ship!!! I like it!! ;)
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 26, 2004, 07:04:43 am
Sounds like a big project look forward to seeing your result... and as for the above mentioned ship!!! I like it!! ;)

Thanks,care to tackle one of the Excelsior models?
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: markyd on October 26, 2004, 12:12:18 pm
Excelsior study model II  ???

I wouldnt mind taking this one off your hands and getting it done for you..  ;)
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: OlBuzzard on October 26, 2004, 12:26:27 pm
What you have there is excellent stuff.  You might contact Nanner ..  one of the things in his mod was the correct sizing as I recall.  (We talk about a lot of stuff that is not posted.)

At any rate..  ya might ask him for suggestions.

This is EXCELLENT !!  I would love to get a copy of this on a disk for safe keeping !!
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 26, 2004, 04:36:10 pm
Excelsior study model II  ???

I wouldnt mind taking this one off your hands and getting it done for you..  ;)


Right on,go for it.And thanks for helping.Any and everyone are welcome to help in anyway.
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Rhaz on October 26, 2004, 08:51:29 pm
Atra made a 4-nacelle study model a while ago.
Here's a pic.  I've got the model if you're interested.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 26, 2004, 09:42:59 pm
Atra made a 4-nacelle study model a while ago.
Here's a pic.  I've got the model if you're interested.

Heck ya I'm interested.Could you post it for D/L somewhere or send it to either myself or F_W.Posting it would be better because then everyone can grab it as the like.
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Bernard Guignard on October 27, 2004, 05:17:34 am
Atra also made a model of the Study model #2  ;D
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 27, 2004, 05:47:13 am
All we need is study model I . And we'll get started.IIRC ATra's study model II is old.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 27, 2004, 08:11:00 am
someone made one in BC too,  unfortuneatly  the author has dissapeared for a very long time.

The very first image for the heavy scout in this thread is,  I believe, a:
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Tolstoy;23476

but  desperatley needs more polies and a complete overhaul of the textures, at  that rate you   might as well  make both parts so it can separate too.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 27, 2004, 09:07:26 am
We already have the Tolstoy.The question is does everyone accept that as the Rigel class or do we need another design? The two concensus' are.......

A) It might be the above pictured ship
B) It's a Galaxy like saucer( not an Ambassador) matted to a Connie hull with three Galaxy narcells.Very similar to the Niagra Class.
 Or
I was thinking the above ship with 2 more narcells added........lol a comprimise.Everyone's opinion will be most appreciated
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 27, 2004, 09:49:26 am
make a new tolstoy, the original is like 3 yeards old..and doesn't have nice blue-grey fed textures.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 27, 2004, 09:19:38 pm
I think a connie hull stuck to a galaxy saucer is completley absurd. If the nacelles were attached to the connie hull,  the ship  would rip  itsself   apart the minute it went to  warp because a  connie hull isn't  meant  to take stress like that.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 27, 2004, 10:39:17 pm
This is the Niagra we'll be shooting for.........
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/niagara-official.jpg
And I know ,we have it already.Based on this comparison
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/niagara_comp.jpg
The screen cap of BbBW is on the left and a great rendition of the ship on the right.

From MIke Okuda himself.......
Rigel: I don't think we ever came up with a ship design specifically tied to that name. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm not remembering correctly. I don't have my notes here at the moment).

SO F_W and I put it to ya,what should the Rigel look like ?
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 28, 2004, 04:17:13 am
I may have another candidate for the Rigel F_W.I'll look for ya on MSN.
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 28, 2004, 05:52:49 am

SO F_W and I put it to ya,what should the Rigel look like ?


Yep lets get the old creative jucies flowing do we stick with the Tolstoy that is pictured all the way at the top of the thread with major retexturing or a new model.
We NEED ideas people :P so any ideas no matter how silly or strange tell us

I think it should be a new model of the tolstoy up top, even if you don't  use it for a rigel. it's too awsome   of a ship to simply let pass.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Sandman3D on October 28, 2004, 03:54:35 pm
This is the Niagra we'll be shooting for.........
[url]http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/niagara-official.jpg[/url]
And I know ,we have it already.Based on this comparison
[url]http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/niagara_comp.jpg[/url]
The screen cap of BbBW is on the left and a great rendition of the ship on the right.

From MIke Okuda himself.......
Rigel: I don't think we ever came up with a ship design specifically tied to that name. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm not remembering correctly. I don't have my notes here at the moment).

SO F_W and I put it to ya,what should the Rigel look like ?


Mmmmmmmm, how about mine? ;D
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: S33K100 on October 28, 2004, 09:12:18 pm
This is the Niagra we'll be shooting for.........
[url]http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/niagara-official.jpg[/url]


Just to say that the official schematic from the Fact Files looks nothing like the actual ship which actually looks like this:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/niagara-top-side.jpg

- the two are next to each other on the same page, basically either the artist was lazy or he didn't know about the pics of Jein holding the bloody thing on this page:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/niagara.htm

most likely both. BTW where in the frick can I get that Excelsior study by Atra? I medically need to posses that model ;D

For the Tolstoy I would say just make up a design you want, whatever you feel like - there's no official Tolstoy class beyond the name, the description from the slideshow actually turned out to be the Niagara. Think about it - galaxy looking saucer, three galaxy nacelles, stuck to a vat shaped secondary hull (only two canon Fed ships with such a hull - Constitution Refit and Ambassador) no neck, it all matches up exactly to the Niagara.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Red_Green on October 28, 2004, 09:58:01 pm
Oh this sounds interesting. By the way there is a Tolstoy out there if you need it. By SBloyd I believe. Though  I am not sure if his site is still active.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 29, 2004, 12:14:42 am
it's on newships....thats where I got the Tolstoy and the Gagarn when I did them for BC.
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Sapharite on October 29, 2004, 03:38:17 am
Atra made a 4-nacelle study model a while ago.
Here's a pic.  I've got the model if you're interested.

I thought this was never made by anyone :)  :o I am interested in getting this model can you e-mail it to me to jimkirk@poczta.onet.pl ?? Thanks :D
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 30, 2004, 10:00:25 am
We still need someone to make Study model I .Since II is almost done (and let me tell ya Mani and F_W did one hella job on it).There is only Study I left and once we have it F_W and myself will move on to the next phase of the MOD.
-MP

P.S. stay tuned because Manitobashipyards soon to be OutaLance Shipyards has several new ships to be released very shortly. That's right MP got his crayons out again. ;D :thumbsup:
  :dance:
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 30, 2004, 10:13:26 am
yo dudes...
http://gallery82737.fotopic.net/c326859.html
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 30, 2004, 10:19:49 am
WOW that's great stuff.Thanks Starforce2 sir for bringing this to our attention. Do you know if they will be released for SFC2?
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Starforce2 on October 30, 2004, 10:48:01 am
yea. None are out yet though even for BC. I will enquire more   next time  I see  LC on msn..
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 30, 2004, 08:32:07 pm
Cool,thanks alot.Please by all means keep us posted.
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Sapharite on October 31, 2004, 04:04:53 am
I had thi USS Tolstoy on my HDD somewhere :( But now I can't find it. It was made by someone who's page is somewhere in WWW world I donno anything now  :-\
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 31, 2004, 04:28:50 am
I had thi USS Tolstoy on my HDD somewhere :( But now I can't find it. It was made by someone who's page is somewhere in WWW world I donno anything now  :-\

If ya have MSN I can send ya the one I have
-MP
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: manitoba1073 on October 31, 2004, 11:51:15 pm
playing around with the render in max4 not good but its a preview of the excelesior study model 2 i bashed for this project
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: Anthony Scott on November 02, 2004, 02:19:50 pm
Now this is going to be so very cool...I have been long wanting to do Wolf 359 in SFC but always had to fudge the models a little.

Geat work guys, keep them coming...


Semper Fi, carry On
Title: Re: Wolf 359 Project headed by Models Please and Myself
Post by: wulf111 on November 02, 2004, 02:47:09 pm
keep up the great work guys  :o