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Off Topic => Ten Forward => Topic started by: Nemesis on November 05, 2004, 08:49:01 pm

Title: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: Nemesis on November 05, 2004, 08:49:01 pm
Link to full article (http://yahoo.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-11-05-teleportation_x.htm?csp=1)
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Star Trek fans may be happy to hear that the Air Force has paid to study psychic teleportation.

But scientists aren't so thrilled.

The Air Force Research Lab's August "Teleportation Physics Report," posted earlier this week on the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) Web site, struck a raw nerve with physicists and critics of wasteful military spending.

In the report, author Eric Davis says psychic teleportation, moving yourself from location to location through mind powers, is "quite real and can be controlled." The 88-page report also reviews a range of teleportation concepts and experiments:


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? Psychokinesis, or psychic teleportation. In support of the idea, the report cites UFO reports, Soviet and Chinese studies of psychics and U.S. military studies of spoon-bending phenomena.

"It is in large part crackpot physics," says physicist Lawrence Krauss of Case Western Reserve University, author of The Physics of Star Trek, a book detailing the physical limits that prevent teleportation. He describes the Air Force report as "some things adapted from reasonable theoretical studies, and other things from nonsensical ones."


Waste of money.   Don't they use actual scientists to review these proposals?
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: Just plain old Punisher on November 06, 2004, 07:43:25 pm
Carefull, never know what's a waste of money one day and what's a valuable strategic asset the next. I , too, tend to laugh when I hear about these things but I also understand that important defense technologies we use today were often seen as money-wasting boondoggles when they were being researched or developed.
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: C-Los on November 07, 2004, 05:53:02 am
Dummy's......CIA been doing it for Decades


"REMOTE VIEWING"
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2004, 06:43:03 am
Dummy's......CIA been doing it for Decades

"REMOTE VIEWING"

They cancelled the program because it produced nothing.  As I understand it part of the reason for the program was that they believed the Soviets were carrying out the same research with useful results.  When they discovered through their own research that it was pseudo science they dropped it.

Spending money to research controversial science (such as lifters) is useful.  Spending on pseudo science that does not produce results repeatable by anyone else is not.   Psychic powers have been debunked so many times that spending millions on any new research without new evidence is foolish.  Given new evidence that would change but nothing in the article indicated anything new was brought forward to spur on the research.
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: C-Los on November 07, 2004, 01:54:38 pm
"SWAN"   Remote viewed for the Gov. for 10-15 yrs.

Black Ops....CIA  whats the difference !
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: Dash Jones on November 07, 2004, 04:38:55 pm
Hmm, question everything.

I don't know if I'd spend 7.5 million into it, but if there was some reasonable thought that it might be successful, and I was the US government, I'd certainly sink at least a cool million into it.  It probably is quack science/pseudo science...HOWEVER...the idea that the earth rotated around the sun, the idea that the earth was round, and other such items now accepted as fact were also at one time considered quack sciences.

Heck, the idea of man being able to build a flying machine other than a balloon at one time was considered a pseudo science, and a waste of money.   The United States didn't see much use of it either even after flying machines were built...at least until WWI.

I think the mind is a powerful thing.  I personally don't expect anything from this pseudo science of psychic teleportation...BUT if someone were actually able to do that...and I passed it up...I'd kick myself for at least not delegating some money into it's investigation.  However, I think I'd invest more into the person playing chess with only their mind before investing into more powerful psychic ideas...invest in the mind control over computerized items first, and build a base of what the mind can or cannot do with current technology.
Title: Re: Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
Post by: Iceman on November 07, 2004, 05:49:43 pm
Its only a matter of time before we as a species evolve.  Its bound to happen. Who knows where the next big step will happen right? 7.5 mil is really not a whole ton of money. I say more power to ya AF!