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Taldrenites => Dynaverse II Experiences => Topic started by: FPF-DieHard on April 14, 2005, 09:03:24 am
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Just gathering some feedback for future use
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I like the toned down X ships.
I think the job done with them was AOK.
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Their introduction date is WAY too early. No one used HDWs or anything else. They're ruining the variety of the game.
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Don't like 'em. Prefer the "Iron captains Wooden ships" approach
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Their introduction date is WAY too early. No one used HDWs or anything else. They're ruining the variety of the game.
I agree they may have been introduced too early, but they are much better than the taldren X-ships.
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I really would have enjoyed playing them on the server if I'd stuck around that long. Got too frustrated before that point though. Did like them in practice sessions though.
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I dislike the HDW's anyway
Xships were fine
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I dislike the HDW's anyway
Xships were fine
agreed. :thumbsup:
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I love them just enough Cheese but not to much. ;D
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Didnt mind them-- actually LOVED to fly the romulan SKX...fantastic little DD..
My only comment about X ships-- even the little Frigs is they make just about every other ship obsolete... My guess is I can beat about any fed HC hell other then carries and BCF/BCG/BCJ by using a X class DD(frig)..
ShadowLord
X Frigs --- really were fun to fly and great to use vs PF's and fighters
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X Frigs --- really were fun to fly and great to use vs PF's and fighters
That is the point ;D
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My only comment about X ships-- even the little Frigs is they make just about every other ship obsolete... My guess is I can beat about any fed HC hell other then carries and BCF/BCG/BCJ by using a X class DD(frig)..
I'm not sure about this, I think in many cases the X DDs are about equal to the CCHs of the different races. They still have the hull of a DD and fall apart after a few hits. I think a Fast cruiser will still win the fight as the X -powercurve isn't even a factor.
In an NHK, I was able to beat F-DDX and F-DGX ships in training fights. Granted the NHK is the "mother of all CCHs" but te F-DDX is the best X DD.
This could be fun to test some time more thoroughly.
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I think I heard that some of the X ships had 25 to 35 spare parts if this is true they need to come down. I would think the same as a line ship would be good.
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Die Hard--
Would love to play test that with you -- you get a NHK -- I will fly the SKX --
I have two plasma S -- 8 ph 1
You have 7 ph 1 2 S torps and 2 F torps -
My opinion is I kick your arse based on the power curve issue..could be wrong but would love to play test it..
ShadowLord
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You didn't have an indifferent option so I guess I would have to say given a choice I'd rather have the HDW's. More variety, more fun and no restrictions.
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Die Hard--
Would love to play test that with you -- you get a NHK -- I will fly the SKX --
I have two plasma S -- 8 ph 1
You have 7 ph 1 2 S torps and 2 F torps -
My opinion is I kick your arse based on the power curve issue..could be wrong but would love to play test it..
ShadowLord
D2 Load outs? I'm game.
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Die Hard--
Would love to play test that with you -- you get a NHK -- I will fly the SKX --
I have two plasma S -- 8 ph 1
You have 7 ph 1 2 S torps and 2 F torps -
My opinion is I kick your arse based on the power curve issue..could be wrong but would love to play test it..
ShadowLord
D2 Load outs? I'm game.
Not even a contest. The NHK should own.
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Die Hard--
Would love to play test that with you -- you get a NHK -- I will fly the SKX --
I have two plasma S -- 8 ph 1
You have 7 ph 1 2 S torps and 2 F torps -
My opinion is I kick your arse based on the power curve issue..could be wrong but would love to play test it..
ShadowLord
D2 Load outs? I'm game.
Not even a contest. The NHK should own.
Agreed, the SKX hull just won't hold up over the long hall.
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Excellent -- 3 players so far agree that the NHK should win -- D2 loadouts FULL-- we do it via IP or GSA -- tonight? or over the weekend and DONT Spoil my fun by playtesting it with anyone before we get down and dirty..
I am really looking forward to this..
ShadowLord
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Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...
What about other races? While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get? I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out. 196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.
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Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...
What about other races? While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get? I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out. 196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.
The CLX is a DH creation for this server, as a rough equavilant to the HDX and SPX NOT the CMX which is where the CX matches up.
The thing to keep in mind about a fed ship having a lower BPV though is that it doesn't include the fast drone cost or combat effectiveness.
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Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...
What about other races? While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get? I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out. 196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.
Plasma X is a joke. I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.
CMX is a Heavy, CLX is a light. Compare the Fed CLX to the G-HDX and R-SPX. that is more accurate
I pulled the CLX out of my ass, that is a DH ship. it has 6 Photons jeff, time to get your eyes checked ;D
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Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...
What about other races? While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get? I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out. 196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.
Plasma X is a joke. I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.
Not positive, but I think he mean X ships with plasma in general, NOT the Plasma X weapon.
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Yes. I like the non Taldren X ships that are used on the Dyna but I would like to seea few changes made to them.I haven't played with them that much.
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Plasma X is a joke. I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.
Plasma X and Plasma E are just fine. They were the only X-Weapons Taldren got right IMO.
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Didnt mind them-- actually LOVED to fly the romulan SKX...fantastic little DD..
My only comment about X ships-- even the little Frigs is they make just about every other ship obsolete... My guess is I can beat about any fed HC hell other then carries and BCF/BCG/BCJ by using a X class DD(frig)..
ShadowLord
X Frigs --- really were fun to fly and great to use vs PF's and fighters
Bit late to the discussion (Heavy work schedules been keeping me occupied) but I disagree, the older ships with good power curves I think can give many of the GW5 X-ships a run for their money.
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Well Duck and I just did the NHK vesus SKX . . .
after an 1:20, I accidently flew off the map with a total of 18 internals scored.
Seems close enoug to me ;D
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Oh that doesn't count. Do it again.
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I like them. Were the other races also converted? Is so I want a copy. I always disliked the X-Ships in SFB and in SFC2:OP because unlike all that went before they were not incremental improvements.
A K-D7K vs a well played K-D7B but lose without being incompetent. A K-D7W could only win vs a K-D7X by an improbable level of incompetence on the X ships player.
Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along. Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses. In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't.
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Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along. Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses. In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't.
Sure they do : Bad tactics.
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Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along. Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses. In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't.
Sure they do : Bad tactics.
That is not a weakness in the ship but in the Captain.
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Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along. Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses. In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't.
Sure they do : Bad tactics.
That is not a weakness in the ship but in the Captain.
A squirrel's gotta find his acorns where he may.
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The only 1v1 match I had during GW5 was my DGX vs Shin32's SKX. Although we each had an AI partner, they beat up on each other and stayed out of our fight. It was a very good match and matchup, ship and player wise. I'd give the nod to the DGX, by a hair. It was a treat to fly the DGX, I never saw the DDX in the limited amount of time I was online. Sounds like a nice ship though.
Wraith 413
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Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
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Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
I had one, great little ship ;D Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one
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Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
I had one, great little ship ;D Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
Face it DH you've gotten old and slow, get me out of a plasma boat and you don't stand a chance
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Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
I had one, great little ship ;D Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
Face it DH you've gotten old and slow, get me out of a plasma boat and you don't stand a chance
Rumor has it Hexx is an Ace with an escape pod.
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Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
I had one, great little ship ;D Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
Face it DH you've gotten old and slow, get me out of a plasma boat and you don't stand a chance
Rumor has it Hexx is an Ace with an escape pod.
I thought the cabinboys used a mop? ;D
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Yuck it up you two.
I'm sure after I annihilate you both on Mirror2
You'll be singing a different tune..
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Yuck it up you two.
I'm sure after I annihilate you both on Mirror2
You'll be singing a different tune..
"Hexx is my Bitch in D minor" ;D