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Title: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 14, 2005, 05:04:20 pm
I've been messin around with a few concepts on Federation Star Base designs ..  this is the latest one  ( and not necessarily the last )

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/SB777concept7E copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 14, 2005, 06:52:08 pm
do you have any other views of this base? (i.e. top,bottom and side?)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Rhaz on August 14, 2005, 07:24:04 pm
Very cool!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 14, 2005, 07:38:32 pm
Thanks guys ...

As for other views ..  let me see what I can come up with.  The top view would be rather simple.  The bottom not too bad ..  Probably what I need to do is close ups on a couple of areas ..  and perhaps try to do some detail on the two dry dock areas  ( which are large enough to house up to 4 ships each.)

It would be cool if we could get this one built !
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 14, 2005, 11:42:52 pm
heres a preliminary WIP
what do you think?
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Starforce2 on August 15, 2005, 05:32:54 am
you just whip that up witht he spline tool?
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 15, 2005, 07:26:11 am
heres a preliminary WIP
what do you think?

Holly cow dude !

The only thing I see is the very top  (but it may just be the angle of the view).  Also there is one section toward the top that does have some "extrusions" ..  that look some what "webbed"  (for lack of a better term).  Add the very bottom end to it ...  and of course the 3 "dock areas"  .

I started on some more sketches last night (mostly the dock areas).  I can tell ya that the "docks" themselves are pretty much TNG stock stuff. 

Hmmm  lets see .. 

OH !  As far as scale  ...  This puppy is kinda large.  AS you might have guessed there are 4 entrances for Star ships.  Each of the doors are big enough for two of Star Fleets largest ships to pass through side by side ....  easily.  (At least that is my tentative plan)

The over all idea is that this station is a major installation developed as a  Deep Space  out post for remote deployment only.  Yet it does address the problem of adequate access, in and out of the base in an emergency situation ... as well as big enough to house, every known facet of Star Fleet operations.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 15, 2005, 09:46:10 am
BTW...   some one PM'd me a VERY good question...

The "dry docks" ...  they can hold up to 4 star ships each.  That's two on each side (and each dock is a "double wide").   I'll get a pict up this evening when i get home.

thanks
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Major A Payne on August 15, 2005, 01:37:46 pm
Olbuzzard. I do hope that when you say "largest ship in the federation" you mean in the canon way and no, noncanon. FIne looking stations and if you don't mind I'll give this a go for Armada 1/2 as well (remember it'll be somewhat lower in poly count than SFC3 or BC versions).
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 15, 2005, 02:30:55 pm
Olbuzzard. I do hope that when you say "largest ship in the federation" you mean in the canon way and no, noncanon. FIne looking stations and if you don't mind I'll give this a go for Armada 1/2 as well (remember it'll be somewhat lower in poly count than SFC3 or BC versions).

HEY BUD ...

hmmm  let's see ..

1.  largest  ..  NON cannon stuff...  I think I see what ya mean.  My first knee-jerk reaction was more negative.  But now that I think about it ..  there are some pretty wild ships out there....  sooo Lets say that IMHO  the Galaxy Class and the Armada if I'm not mistake is wider than anything out there  ....  (primarily cannon.  Heck even most of my designs are not "cannon".  But I do try to use "cannon" guidelines when developing stuff.  Even this station was developed off of "certain Federation characteristics".  Even the USS Maco we designed was some what "cannon". .. Most of the "Titan" designs ( with the possible exception of 2 ) are still not THAT much wider.  Again .... most of these designs are not much wider than the "Galaxy".  That was what I had in mind at least.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is ...   you are right sir.   

2.  As for permission to develop your own .. I dont mind.  Please include in your folder where the design came from.

Please also note:

Antivyrus ...  hey bud   ..  keep up what you are doing sir !  I really want to see this done.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 15, 2005, 03:53:03 pm
you just whip that up witht he spline tool?

actually it started out as a 16 sided cylinder
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 15, 2005, 04:26:28 pm
Hey bud ..  I love what ya 've done with this ....  I hope ya got my PM's.

I might be getting off work here soon.  Hang with me bud !  Is there anything I need to do to help ?   

This is VERY cool !
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Greenvalv on August 15, 2005, 04:48:44 pm
I like it, keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: adam on August 15, 2005, 05:48:04 pm
looking good buzz,


for your next step I want to see it fully rendered and spinning.


o and can you have it ready yesterday .



lol keep them coming buzz you do a great job.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 15, 2005, 07:48:11 pm
here's a copy of the dry dock area.  After pasting a Galaxy in there ..  I'm wondering if the idea of two side by side in the 4 entrances is appropriate.  You can see the size as it is.

I'm trying to sift through files now to see if I have one with the Galaxy next to a typical base.  I do know that it barely fits through the door.   And, as well, the door is considerably larger when compared to the rest of the station.

In short ..  this station is still subsantially larger than the rest of the Federation bases out there.

Conclusion ...  the model stands ..  the entrances and the dry dock SIZE ..  is all that I need to finalize.

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/SB777concept2C.jpg)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 16, 2005, 12:16:44 am
UPDATE
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Major A Payne on August 16, 2005, 05:11:35 am
lol. No worries OlBuzzard. What I was referring to was if you meant non-canon then your looking at the BC2 Inifinity Class as being the largest (if that was the case the this station is not something I would relish attempt to take out!!). Thanks for the permission and don't worry. You'll get full credit for the original design/schematics. Good take on the shipyards though. Its a shame neither armada game allows for multiple build points on a model.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 16, 2005, 07:26:47 am
1.   I can't get over the super job Antivyrus has done on this !

 :notworthy: :notworthy:

2.  Thanks for the support from everyone.  I've really enjoyed this project.  It all came togeather so quickly.

3.  Major Payne ...  Hey bud .. NP ..  It's good to closely evaluate even the most popular of models.  Your points were good ones to review.  Heck ..  once I did a paste of the Galaxy next to the model ..  it was obvious that I was off just a tad.  I think you can still get 2 through the entrance ..  but not side by side.  They would have to be staggered one above the other ..  and probably at about a 45^ pattern in order for that to happen.


Doing the light map on this is going to be a real challenge.

again thanks to everyone ...   Keep it cool guys ..  this works !

Antivyrus ...   I can't thank you enough ...   great job sir !


 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: ModelsPlease on August 17, 2005, 01:07:57 pm
Great concept Buzz !!!! Oustanding work Antivyrus !!!!!!!!! As a drydock, this would work great in my "Invasion Mod"
-MP
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Shadowfleet on August 17, 2005, 06:54:59 pm
Me likey!!!! ;D

Great design (OB) and awesome modelling (AV)!

Can't wait to have it in game.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on August 17, 2005, 09:16:28 pm
That is one monster base!   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/superbee/www_MyEmoticons_com__cool.gif)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 17, 2005, 09:27:33 pm
UPDATE!
(MP- wipe the drool off you chin) ;D

thats small ship to the right is a galaxy class. it there to show scale

current PC = 8864


the last one I just tossed some quick underware on to get a feel of how see's gonna look

Still have the 3 drydocks to build
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 17, 2005, 09:32:18 pm
SWAEEEEEET!

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Core on August 17, 2005, 09:57:30 pm
indeed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Greenvalv on August 17, 2005, 10:43:15 pm
Doubly indeedy.....
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Victory on August 18, 2005, 12:29:40 am
Thank you very much... I just sh*t myself looking at this, and it's the last pair of clean underwear I have until the laundry gets done... Now I'm sh*t outta luck, no pun intended.





in case you can't tell, I'm impressed.. Good work.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Centurus on August 18, 2005, 08:47:18 am
Very nice progress.  I don't think even a fleet of 100 Constitution-Class, Resurrection Refit ships could take that beast out!!!!!!

Also, that's a Galaxy class?  J/K 
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: ModelsPlease on August 19, 2005, 06:05:21 pm
UPDATE!
(MP- wipe the drool off you chin) ;D

thats small ship to the right is a galaxy class. it there to show scale

current PC = 8864


the last one I just tossed some quick underware on to get a feel of how see's gonna look

Still have the 3 drydocks to build

Wipe the drool ? Are you kidding me ? There's a puddle over here !!!! OMG I hope you're planning on keeping the galaxy in there as well PLEASE  let me put this in the "INVASION MOD". I have a mission script that this is perfect for......YUP new mission hehehehe  ;)
 :rockinband: :rwoot: :woot:
-MP
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Centurus on August 19, 2005, 06:34:19 pm
Could you put the Resurrection in there too?  :-D
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 19, 2005, 10:25:04 pm
UPDATE

model's complete with Buzz's ok that is
just got some smoothing tweaking
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Centurus on August 19, 2005, 10:40:52 pm
Someone give me a cigarette and a mop.  I think I'm in heaven.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on August 19, 2005, 11:40:24 pm
really cool bud ...   

I just got through looking at it in the MOD viewer...  Throw in a paint job ...  and she's good to go !

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Sapharite on August 20, 2005, 06:49:13 am
It's a great design  :thumbsup: Hey Fallen Warrior I don't want to be pushy but what is up with texturing the Merced class made by folks from Outalance?  ???  ;)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Mackie on August 20, 2005, 07:06:19 am
very nice stuff indeed :]
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Sapharite on August 20, 2005, 07:26:09 am
Yeah sure I'm just glad that this isn't a death board :D BTW F_W Will Those meshes have mirror and normal skins or only mirror ones? (That damn hangover prevents me from writing and doing things right  :-\ and tooday I continue to celebrate my birthsday. Tommorow I'll be off for another 24 hours  ;D )
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on August 27, 2005, 12:47:47 pm
UPDATE!

the model is completed and the UV mapping is done

This sweet little Starbase has now been turn over to Buzz for a set of clothes  so hopefully we will see an update from him soon
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on August 27, 2005, 01:05:24 pm
Little?

Did he just say, little?  ;D


WTG!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on September 02, 2005, 11:42:22 pm
Bump Bump!     to the front page
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: battlestar001 on September 03, 2005, 03:02:38 pm
is she ready for d/l?
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Greenvalv on September 03, 2005, 04:43:47 pm
I must have it!!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 04, 2005, 01:40:58 am
This past week was a bit rough at work.  I have 3 projects .. (hmmm  make that 4) ... 

I have started 3 sets of textures (a primary skin or aztec) ..... and not satisfied just yet ( though we're getting closer)

I still have to go into work Monday for a few hours.  But maybe there is a chance I can make enough progress to get a WIP posted by Monday.

thanks
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: ModelsPlease on September 04, 2005, 01:39:11 pm
Hey Buzz, not to get off topic here, but Spartan pointed out a great idea from this pic posted on annother thread ............

(http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=163359960.0;id=4566;image)

Wouldn't this make a great asteroid starbase ?
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 05, 2005, 10:17:29 am
Guys ..   I deeply appreciate the thooughts...  Really !

My load at my place of employment has really been something of a strain lately.  Three  (4 now) primary texture sheets  ... (the one I plan to use as a foundational sheet)  have been scrapped.   I'm just not satisfied with the results.  No doubt a lot of the struggle is comming from just being tired when I get home from work.   I really want to try a while longer to do this.

As for the Asteroid Base ..  I think it would be cool ... I'd LOVE to get my hands on one. But for my proposes I really did want something more "Trek" based.  And it seemed as though there really are not that many "Late TNG" Fed bases around.  Maybe in a few weeks I can do a Late TNG Klingon too !

F.W. this is no reflection on you in any way, shape, fashion, or form.  It's just something I want to do right now.  If I see that I cant .....   then I'll give ya the green light !

Also I have been learning a 3-D program.  Along with that I've been working on an update on a particular mesh.  It's very time consuming (particularly since I really dont know what I'm doing!).

If we're not ready for a couple of WIP picts by this Friday I may re-evaluate things at that point.

Please be patient.

thanks

Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: ModelsPlease on September 05, 2005, 04:11:19 pm
Yeah Buzz take your time, there's no deadline for anyting. DO it at your own pace and don't overwhelm yourself.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Smiley on September 06, 2005, 06:12:31 pm
Hey Buzz, not to get off topic here, but Spartan pointed out a great idea from this pic posted on annother thread ............

([url]http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=163359960.0;id=4566;image[/url])

Wouldn't this make a great asteroid starbase ?


Hmm... how does the atmosphere stay intact? The gravity on that must be so whacked!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 06, 2005, 11:33:08 pm
Lil up-date:

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/SB777txt33.jpg)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on September 06, 2005, 11:38:38 pm
lookin great there Buzz
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 07, 2005, 09:38:11 am
Thanks guys ...  this is just the "primer coat" so to speak.  (And it's incomplete ) ...  No detailed stuff done yet.

I'm at home sick today ...  Need some rest.  I'll try to get more done this evening !
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 07, 2005, 10:40:43 pm
okie ...   we finally got the basics done.  This weekend I'll try to get some details done.

(http://www.olbuzzard.com/SB777txt10.jpg)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Antivyrus on September 07, 2005, 10:59:32 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Sandman3D on September 08, 2005, 01:27:54 am
Very gnarly!!! ;D :drinkinsong:
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Greenvalv on September 08, 2005, 09:32:23 am
When the enemy's scout ship returned with images of this thing on their border, they knew it was the end..... hehe....
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on September 08, 2005, 09:53:26 am
There is a GF file and a Brk Mod, right?   :woot:  ;)
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 08, 2005, 10:45:47 am
Hmmm...

Antivyrus ....   we need a brk mod !

I've never done damage textures before ... 

LOL  !

What am I saying ...  this is the first time I've done textures completely from scratch too !

Oh well !

Thanks for the support guys.  When this entire project is done we will have another announcement as well.

thanks
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Greenvalv on September 08, 2005, 04:29:19 pm
There is a GF file, right?
Hey, can I do the glows if you can't?  I've been getting good at that, hehe....
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on September 08, 2005, 05:51:34 pm
There is a GF file, right?
Hey, can I do the glows if you can't?  I've been getting good at that, hehe....

It's more than just the glows. It controls primary and heavy weapon hard points in SFC 3.

I've had to adapt many ships that were only for EAW or OP in order to play them in SFC 3.

Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: OlBuzzard on September 09, 2005, 08:09:57 am
We'll get the hard points done in due time.  I think Antivyrus can help with the light maps.  ( The windows will be the hardest part ) .  There will also be some lighting on both top and bottom of the saucer  ..  as well as a couple of other key places as well.  There are some weapons that are "hidden" away or "retractable" ...  ( such as photon and Q-torp launchers ) .. Since this base is not primarily used in an offensive posture I chose to keep them hidden on the model.  They are pretty much the same devices as those used on DS-9.  There will be places on top of the saucer that will indicate where they are "hidden away".

Thanks
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on September 09, 2005, 08:27:13 am
We'll get the hard points done in due time.  I think Antivyrus can help with the light maps.  ( The windows will be the hardest part ) .  There will also be some lighting on both top and bottom of the saucer  ..  as well as a couple of other key places as well.  There are some weapons that are "hidden" away or "retractable" ...  ( such as photon and Q-torp launchers ) .. Since this base is not primarily used in an offensive posture I chose to keep them hidden on the model.  They are pretty much the same devices as those used on DS-9.  There will be places on top of the saucer that will indicate where they are "hidden away".

Thanks


< insert drooling smiley here >  ;D
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Mackie on September 09, 2005, 10:13:14 am
id be willing to help with them lightmaps unless there are a bazillion of them textures ;P
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: ModelsPlease on September 09, 2005, 01:19:32 pm
WOW great work so far  ;D.
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: Shadowfleet on October 16, 2005, 08:16:11 pm
This is gonna be the best Starbase EVER!!!! When can we get it in game? Thanks for all teh hard work fellas!
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: CaptainTombs on October 16, 2005, 10:16:12 pm
totally kick ass starbase keep it up awesome work olbuzzard
Title: Re: Late TNG Fed Base
Post by: KBF-Kurok on October 19, 2005, 01:10:14 pm
nice job buz and av