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Title: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 08:22:18 am
thanks to antyvirus's awesome yamato i was able to whip this up, im still messing around with it im trying to update the design from tmp to TNG, so far i like what ive done im wondering tho if i remove the courageous and just kitbash it or leave it as is

any suggestions are appreciated
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 08:24:29 am
here are some more images
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 08:25:50 am
and the last one, again any suggestions appreciated
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Sochin on December 15, 2005, 08:26:05 am
IMHO if you kept just the Galaxy nacelles it would a lot better, a lot less cluttered.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 08:30:06 am
i think ill just take the courageous off then but keep the slipstream and shuttle bay area
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 15, 2005, 09:26:25 am
is there any  way you can send me a link viam PM to review in 3-d

from what I can tell ...  it looks super ... 

got to run ...  work is nuts today !
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 15, 2005, 09:50:21 am
How about placing the top pair of nacelles at the symmetrical spot of the bottom ones, and removing the courageous additions, and the she'll be actually able to warp then.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 15, 2005, 09:53:12 am
Yeah loose the side nacelles, use only the 4 Gal nacelles. Swap out the Excel sec hulls with Gal's as well. If you going to add weapon rollbars use Akira roll bars. And finally use the saucer with mega phaser from the Gal X.(BoBW). I'm working on a TNG Mars Class BB upgrade............

-MP
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 15, 2005, 10:24:59 am
OKIE...

now that i have a little bit of time...

yeah .. I agree 6 nacelles are over the top  ..  especially by TNG standards. (Although I would like to have a copy of that particular style for another project I'm working on ...   seriously  .. i can use them)

I would also look at a modified tng 2ndary hull

AS for the roll bar ..  its looks ok as far as I can tell ..   I would still like to review 3-d before pronouncing final judgement though.

Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 11:04:32 am
well ive removed the nacelles part from the courageous going to to mess with the textures to make it look like weapons, im going to tweak and mess with it
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 15, 2005, 11:06:13 am
plus i forgot to mention im trying to make it into a transwarp/Slipstream Warp Battleship
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 15, 2005, 11:13:47 am
ahhh...

that would be unique.  Please keep in mind that more nacelles (especially by late TNG) does not equate additional power.


I like that concept ..  it is very interesting.

(BTW...  any chance I can snitch those side nacelles off of ya ?)
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Starforce2 on December 15, 2005, 05:21:08 pm
perhaps you  can find a way to  use the courageous pylon segment as a  support strut for something,  that part looked neat,  but I think 6 is too much too, but the rest looks nice. Unless ofcourse you did mess with the textures some  how and turn them courageous nacelles into something else.That side phaser and the extra mass there from  side view  looks interesting...
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 16, 2005, 01:11:13 am
How about this ?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 16, 2005, 02:51:39 am
intersting i actually like the removed nacelles but i like them there also ill do two one with and one without. and olbuzzard which nacelles do you need the Galaxy or couragous ones
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 16, 2005, 02:54:27 am
also which format 3ds or mod ?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 16, 2005, 03:21:27 am
also which format 3ds or mod ?

I would do both just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 16, 2005, 04:52:59 am
well here are the updates removed the couragous nacelles and messed with textures, also ive named her the Dominion Class, a ship made for war and with the dominion being the last war they had was there name i thought it fitting
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 16, 2005, 04:56:54 am
more piccies
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 16, 2005, 07:51:47 am
okie ..   that works better !

(I'd still like 'talk ya " out of a copy of those nacelles)
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 16, 2005, 11:21:12 am
Very nice, I would still replace the dual excel secondary hulls with those of the sovie, or if you don't want it "THAT" advanced , perhaps Ambassador sec hulls, or Gal sec hulls. Just food for thought   ;).

-MP
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Antivyrus on December 16, 2005, 01:17:14 pm
i have to agree with MP about the 2ndary hulls. the yamato hulls now look a little out of place.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Anthony Scott on December 16, 2005, 02:22:59 pm
 :o ;D


Me likes very much...BOTH of them...

Semper Fi, Carry On
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Starforce2 on December 16, 2005, 03:17:38 pm
intersting i actually like the removed nacelles but i like them there also ill do two one with and one without. and olbuzzard which nacelles do you need the Galaxy or couragous ones

You could also turn the blue manifolds on he courageous nacelles into hull, and a phaser strip,  and turn the bussard  (or   cut out the "glass" ) and add  3  torpedo tubes and make them torpedo pods. add 1 rear if possible and texture ona couple  of resupply hatches if u really want to get detailed.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: OlBuzzard on December 16, 2005, 03:25:13 pm
intersting i actually like the removed nacelles but i like them there also ill do two one with and one without. and olbuzzard which nacelles do you need the Galaxy or couragous ones

couragous please !
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 17, 2005, 02:47:55 am
got the nacelles ready will send in a day or two
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 17, 2005, 06:09:37 am
Ok, better, now just reposition the top nacelles to match the symmetrical positions of the bottom ones, and then she's fit for warp
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 17, 2005, 08:09:38 am
im happy with the nacelles where they are, ive altered the textures so she has no official name, the dominion class is also an unofficial starship and doesnt exist lol.

im thinking of addiing a Nebula class pod but dont know which one to choose along with a Phaser lance like the one used on the AGT Enterprise.

Also ModelsPlease can you show me on one of the pictures what you mean and where to put the extra torpedoe launchers ?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 17, 2005, 11:09:45 am
im happy with the nacelles where they are, ive altered the textures so she has no official name, the dominion class is also an unofficial starship and doesnt exist lol.

The nacelles must be symmetrical in position in all 3 axises, or else she'll brake up in warp
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: mayhemuk on December 17, 2005, 11:20:06 am
Mmmm interesting design thats for sure, and i see my Courageous class is in there to, funny i dont remember seeing an email from you about using her, any news on that.
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 17, 2005, 12:44:25 pm
im happy with the nacelles where they are, ive altered the textures so she has no official name, the dominion class is also an unofficial starship and doesnt exist lol.

The nacelles must be symmetrical in position in all 3 axises, or else she'll brake up in warp

that would mean the yamato the design its originally based off will do the same but either way it will fly either way, plus i have seen other ships with a more weirder layout than this.

pmed ya mayhem uk love the courageous design

also here is a update pic minus what im thinking of doing more to her
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 17, 2005, 01:53:08 pm
im happy with the nacelles where they are, ive altered the textures so she has no official name, the dominion class is also an unofficial starship and doesnt exist lol.

The nacelles must be symmetrical in position in all 3 axises, or else she'll brake up in warp

that would mean the yamato the design its originally based off will do the same but either way it will fly either way, plus i have seen other ships with a more weirder layout than this.

pmed ya mayhem uk love the courageous design

also here is a update pic minus what im thinking of doing more to her


And how many of those ships are actually cannon?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: battlestar001 on December 17, 2005, 02:13:27 pm
wow i luv this ship are u actually making her?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 17, 2005, 02:14:14 pm
Yep stil wip and tossing a few ideas about, and adonis, None lol this isnt a canon ship
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 17, 2005, 02:58:08 pm
Quote
Also ModelsPlease can you show me on one of the pictures what you mean and where to put the extra torpedoe launchers ?

 :huh: I didn't mention torp tubes, I said swap out the Excelsior secondary hull to that of the Amb, Gal or Sovie.

-MP
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 18, 2005, 11:56:21 am
ah just checked it was starforce2 mentioning the extra torpedoes, not added the rest of the mods yet, also i didnt want to add amb,sov or galaxy as they didnt fit the look well in my eyes they didnt thats why ive got rid of the delfector but left the shape, i just need to add the nebula pod(still cant decide which th) and a phaser lance
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 18, 2005, 01:34:47 pm
ah just checked it was starforce2 mentioning the extra torpedoes, not added the rest of the mods yet, also i didnt want to add amb,sov or galaxy as they didnt fit the look well in my eyes they didnt thats why ive got rid of the delfector but left the shape, i just need to add the nebula pod(still cant decide which th) and a phaser lance

Man, just what we need, another fanboy design...
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 18, 2005, 01:39:16 pm
ive updated the ship made the slipstream deflector, need opinions good or bad ?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 18, 2005, 01:42:42 pm
ah just checked it was starforce2 mentioning the extra torpedoes, not added the rest of the mods yet, also i didnt want to add amb,sov or galaxy as they didnt fit the look well in my eyes they didnt thats why ive got rid of the delfector but left the shape, i just need to add the nebula pod(still cant decide which th) and a phaser lance

Man, just what we need, another fanboy design...

How come you dont like new designs ?, your sig is a fanboy design
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: ModelsPlease on December 18, 2005, 01:48:09 pm
ive updated the ship made the slipstream deflector, need opinions good or bad ?

I like it, so did ya swap out the secondary hulls as well ?
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: Adonis on December 18, 2005, 01:53:36 pm
ah just checked it was starforce2 mentioning the extra torpedoes, not added the rest of the mods yet, also i didnt want to add amb,sov or galaxy as they didnt fit the look well in my eyes they didnt thats why ive got rid of the delfector but left the shape, i just need to add the nebula pod(still cant decide which th) and a phaser lance

Man, just what we need, another fanboy design...

How come you dont like new designs ?, your sig is a fanboy design

The Vampire isn't a fanboy design

Fanboy designs are rediculusly overpowered ships made to kick ass slapped togeather without any engeering logic.

Probably the best example of it is the Galaxy-X
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 18, 2005, 03:54:58 pm
ah but the galaxy x is a canon ship from the finale ep of tng, meh either way the nacelles im keeping in the same formation as its the same formation as the yamato, all tho my design is fan boyish at best it is reasonable as it can be destroyed, in other words my ship does have an achilles heel lol
Title: Re: Yamato kitbash upgrade from tmp to TNG/Voy
Post by: CaptainTombs on December 18, 2005, 03:57:19 pm
also forgot to mention the dominion class is the federation equivalent of the Negh Var, all tho highly strong it does have weaknesses