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Title: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Rat Boy on January 16, 2006, 12:40:28 pm
They said not to miss the first ten minutes of the episode, and they weren't lying.  Two major characters from the past season get whacked with a third hovering near death.  Jack Bauer getting framed for killing the man he's nearly given his own life to protect over and over again.  The First Lady from Hell.  Geeky chick Chloe finally getting some action.  What's not to like?
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Javora on January 16, 2006, 02:42:53 pm
I loved it, can't wait for tonight.  I watched the Transporter 2 just before 24 came on, which made for a really nice lead in.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on January 17, 2006, 04:49:13 pm
It's a guilty pleasure for me, but all four hours made for some real on-edge viewing.  The story line with Derek was really well-done as well.  The actor did a fairly good job with his expressions at different points and really conveyed the change of snotty, rebellious teen to shell-shocked survivor fairly well. 

Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Father Ted on January 20, 2006, 07:24:41 pm
I thought it was excellent, but I have one question:

If only Palmer, Michelle, Tony, and Chloe knew Jack was still alive, how'd the terrorists find out? Why else try to frame a dead man?
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Father Ted on January 23, 2006, 08:35:35 pm
PS: Is it me, or is CTU the most compromised operation in history? It all started with Nina and the jackals just keep on coming.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on January 24, 2006, 09:46:05 pm
PS: Is it me, or is CTU the most compromised operation in history? It all started with Nina and the jackals just keep on coming.

Just get back to CTU.

We can torture the answer out of you.
 :D
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on January 24, 2006, 10:40:19 pm
Well, when you really think about it, CTU is the place the enemy MUST penetrate in order to successfully carry out an attack.


This time though, it was the President of the United States (or at least the President's friend and advisor) who penetrated CTU.


Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on January 26, 2006, 07:27:29 am
Just get back to CTU.

And have Chloe download the IR sat feed to my handheld.

And review your corrupted data protocols for indication of corruption.

hehe

I like "24", but when I think about it, sometimes the techbabble gets as bad as startrek.

Just get back to CTU.

 :D
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Rat Boy on January 28, 2006, 10:10:34 pm
This time though, it was the President of the United States (or at least the President's friend and advisor) who penetrated CTU.


What is it with presidents and illegal penetrations?   ;D
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on February 20, 2006, 09:54:07 pm
I watched the A&E rerun today and realized that the season 4 security guy that ordered Jacks death...

Is the season 5 guy... who ordered EVERYONE'S DEATH!!

but he's a patriot and all.

Happy presidents day.

Villa
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on February 21, 2006, 12:43:49 am
Good point...I liked tonight's developments with Lynn (or is it Glen?) losing his cool and freaking out...the first lady's solution to the ethical problem...the president should be in that limo with them.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Father Ted on February 21, 2006, 07:24:37 am
Fat Hobbit was definitely going off the deep end last night. But the biggest loser is Logan. Sign an anti-terrorism treaty with the Russian President, then sell him out to the terrorists. What a weasle.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on March 02, 2006, 08:30:22 pm
Just get back to CTU..

Is it true that "24" junkies actually rate each episode as to Jack's KPH (Kills per Hour)?

And that is the metric for goodness?

Geez.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Sarek on March 03, 2006, 12:17:16 pm
Nonsense.  This week's episode was good and I don't think Jack killed anyone.  24 is like sex, part of the fun is the buildup to Jack's orgasms of violence.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Javora on March 04, 2006, 05:05:05 pm
Nonsense.  This week's episode was good and I don't think Jack killed anyone.  24 is like sex, part of the fun is the buildup to Jack's orgasms of violence.


Interesting way of saying it but it is a good point, I like to see the build up knowing that Jack is going to kill people.  It is one of the many things that keep me coming back.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on March 06, 2006, 10:46:02 pm
JUST GET BACK TO CTU, BABY!!

HE SHOT THE BAD GUY'S WIFE IN THE LEG!!..just to get info!

AND WATCHED THE COMPUTER GEEK DIE FROM NERVE GAS!!

Two hours is just too much for Villa.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on March 07, 2006, 12:28:12 am
I feel like a junkie who just got a slight overdose after two hours of 24.  I was wondering how long it would take Jack to shoo the guy's wife in the leg...and when it didn't work on breaking the guy, I figured out who the culprit is behind this season's madness.


My bet:  The Vice President is making a power grab from a weak, spineless boob of a President.


The gas attack on CTU was agonizing to watch...but Edgar deserved his fate after he sent the girl to her death without sending security to back her up...
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Rat Boy on March 07, 2006, 12:26:28 pm
My bet:  The Vice President is making a power grab from a weak, spineless boob of a President.

I doubt it; that was Season 2's plot.

And is it just me, or is 24 becoming the refuge of Trek Guest Stars Past?
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on March 07, 2006, 09:52:34 pm
The gas attack on CTU was agonizing to watch...but Edgar deserved his fate after he sent the girl to her death without sending security to back her up...

...man... tough crowd...
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on March 09, 2006, 12:18:03 pm
The gas attack on CTU was agonizing to watch...but Edgar deserved his fate after he sent the girl to her death without sending security to back her up...

...man... tough crowd...

Edgar whined too much for my like....Besides, as any experienced CTU agent knows...if there's something odd happening INVESTIGATE with guns drawn...


Edgar had enough experience he should have sent an armed detail with her down there (they would have all died, but maybe Jack could have gotten there in time to save the day).
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Father Ted on March 09, 2006, 04:02:53 pm
Nonsense.  This week's episode was good and I don't think Jack killed anyone.  24 is like sex, part of the fun is the buildup to Jack's orgasms of violence.


My favorite Jack Bauer Body Count is probably the conclusion of Season 1 when Jack goes after Drazen when Nina tells him Kim is dead. Pure rage.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on March 10, 2006, 03:43:50 pm
I still like the scene where Chloe was under attack in the field and managed to get out of the vehicle with the M-16 just in time to blow the bad guy away...never underestimate that b*tch
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Grim on March 11, 2006, 06:51:08 am
Nonsense.  This week's episode was good and I don't think Jack killed anyone.  24 is like sex, part of the fun is the buildup to Jack's orgasms of violence.


My favorite Jack Bauer Body Count is probably the conclusion of Season 1 when Jack goes after Drazen when Nina tells him Kim is dead. Pure rage.

I have to agree Ted ;D

In the UK we are up to episode 7, i have always been a fan of 24, the fast paced action and many "twists and turns" have kept me glued to each series ;D
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on March 11, 2006, 02:12:56 pm
Cant wait to see Monday.

It takes a real tough man to battle toxic nerve gas.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on March 15, 2006, 03:13:58 pm
The poor little hobbit!  I almost shed a tear for him...of course why the included the scene with the security guard is beyond me...I mean we all know the guy's got family and making it more real was just a waste of time...they could have used those 45 seconds to show him foaming at the mouth and blood coming out of his nose some more!  Or given the hobbit more time to jerk as he died and drool/liquified lung cells leaked out of his mouth...

Or we could have watched Tony flop around a bit more as he croaked away...
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Javora on March 15, 2006, 03:50:16 pm
I think the security guard scenes were there to give people the dramatic emotional effect of Gill's mistake.  What I liked was Jack choking out that guy that was with Kim and everyone else in the room went about their business like nothing was out of the norm.  Talk about comedy value there.   ;D
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Sten on March 15, 2006, 06:19:46 pm
Well myself last night I was thinking if the filtration system is running after lynn resets the computers then why is the security guard much less Lynn now dieing.

Lynn touched the rails of the staircase as he climbed them if the Nerve agent had settled there then his skin should have abosrbed the agent and dropped him on the staircase.

On the other hand the vapors are airborne and he is holding his breath....well excuse me but his eyes were exposed and he should have dropped to the ground before he ever made it back.

Now on the other hand if the nerve agent is so weak at this point that it cannot be absorbed by the old eye ball, then when he returned to the room with the Security Guard. The over pressure of the flitration system should have kept the agent mostly out of the room. With a positive air pressure that room Lynn and the Agent were in should have still been relatively safe. Its not like they kept the door open fanning the nerve agent into the room in the first place.

Lame plot device as far as I was concerned.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: TheJudge on March 17, 2006, 03:37:01 pm
Well Sten, it was stated earlier in the episode that this specific nerve agent had to be inhaled to be effective (or Jack would have brought it back into the room with him, killing everyone).  The air filtration system activated, and did you notice the delayed reaction of the security guard and the hobbit?  At first they thought they were going to be okay, but then...bam! there was enough to kill them.

It took time, I guess, for the filtration system to filter out enough of the gas to make it safe...Chloe at one point said they'd reached the level where it was no longer affecting the seals, but that it was still too high to be safe...and that was when the two of them couldn't hold their breath anymore....


Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Sten on March 17, 2006, 10:20:19 pm
Well having had the opportunity to watch to old movies from NBC school.

I watched alot of animals die from nerve agent poisoning.

A drop the size of a ballpoint pen is enough to kill you.

My gripe was when Lynn walked up the staircase he touched the bannister while climbing the stairs. That should have been enough on his hand to drop him.

Secondly if Jack covered himself with his pull over sweater. See he was smart enough to cover his head to protect himself from the agent making contact with him. Yet when he reentered the room all he did was move the sweaters hood from his noggin. If anything he should have taken off the sweater and his out clothing just to play it safe. I know I know its TV.

So my point positive over pressure, that being the fresh clean air blowing into the room from the Air conditioning should have kept the agent from the room. When they opened the door they should have felt the air flowing out of the room, preventing the agent from blowing in.
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Villa64 on January 14, 2007, 11:06:30 pm
I cant believe Jack ripped out the guys *jugular* with his teeth!!

Wow, and still 22 hours left to go!

Hey was the other terrorist the doc from DS9?
Title: Re: 24 is back! [SPOILERS]
Post by: Sarek on January 15, 2007, 01:46:23 am
I cant believe Jack ripped out the guys *jugular* with his teeth!!

Wow, and still 22 hours left to go!

Hey was the other terrorist the doc from DS9?

Yes he is.  I kept wondering the same thing while I was watching but figured I must be imagining things.  But TV Guide says it's Alexander Siddig.