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Title: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385 on January 18, 2006, 03:22:45 pm

Many years ago I bought a huge lot of old militaria in an estate auction. Ive slowly been restoring things that were damaged and didnt have much value. One of the things in the lot was an old German bayonet. Now, Ive found information on the maker, but nothing about which rifle it was made for or when it was manufactured. Here are the specs.

Maker: Weyersburg Kirschbaum & Co. (Located on the ricasso)
Location: Solingen
Fullered blade
Wooden hilt. Steel pommel. Button/spring locking mechanism.
Overall length: 17"
Blade length: 12"
Other markings: CC4441 on crossguard. "d B" on spine of blade.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ooops, almost forgot. The bayonet has a bladebreaker quillion.

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: The Postman on January 18, 2006, 06:03:40 pm

gotta a pic?

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: Just plain old Punisher on January 18, 2006, 08:42:18 pm

I found the manufactuers website contact information, perhaps you could email them?

http://www.military-swords.com/kontakt/index.html

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385 on January 19, 2006, 05:47:16 am

Thanks guys. Pun, I emailed them. Postman, here are a few pics.

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: Just plain old Punisher on January 19, 2006, 06:39:49 pm

That looks like a WWI boynett.

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: The Postman on January 19, 2006, 07:25:28 pm

http://www.antique-militaria.co.uk/bayonet-siamese-mauser-1896-00450/

http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/braz1908.htm

http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/bel1889a.htm

http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/arg1909.htm


Bayonet for Mauser,

The "cc 4441" should be the serial # of the rifle that it went to.

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Both bayonet and scabbard are stamped with a serial number, beginning with an alpha-character prefix, followed by a 4-digit number. It is desired by collectors that both bayonet and scabbard numbers match; otherwise they are considered mis-matched.
The alpha-character indicates the ten-thousand unit, presumed in order from A to Z. The alpha-character A represents the first ten-thousand, so all serial numbers beginning with A are from the first 10,000 of a production order. This would be followed by a B, then C and so on and so forth through the alphabet. A9785 would indicate bayonet number 9,785; B9785 would indicate bayonet number 19,785. It is also presumed that serial number A0001 would indicate bayonet number 0001; serial number A0000 would indicate bayonet number 10,000. When single alpha-characters are exhausted, production prefixes change to double alpha-character prefixes, such as: AA, BB, CC and so on.

Title: Re: Anyone here know about old German bayonets?
Post by: Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385 on January 20, 2006, 11:12:28 am

Thanks! Thats what I was looking for. Now I have to look through the other items to see if the rifle is there. There were a couple of old bolt action rifles with the items. They were in pieces though. If I do have the rifle, I'll have to put them on my insurance.