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Off Topic => Holodeck => Topic started by: Bonk on January 20, 2006, 08:08:45 am
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http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/800/news.php
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This is the first I've heard of New Voyages.
At first glance at the page, I was prepared to file it under "fan fiction", but then I read on. If they have hired DC Fontana and David Gerrold as authors (and they have!), then this is a lot more than fan fiction. This is the real thing.
I see they've also hired Walter Koenig and Grace Lee Whitney as actors, as well as a young Grace Lee Whitney lookalike to play the young Janice Rand. I wonder what Mrs Whitney looks like these days? I haven't seen her since Star Trek III.
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First I've heard of it too. I read about it on Slashdot this morning:
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/01/20/0617246.shtml
which linked an article on it at trektoday.com:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/180106_03.shtml
I wonder how long it would take to download an episode on 31.2Kbps dial-up? I'm tempted to give it a try.
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I've had a hard time today getting It to download. If I ever do though get It to work, I'll send you and scip a copy if you want.
Stephen
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I'd go for the torrents:
http://newvoyages.mine.nu:1701/index.html?sort=15
Holy cow! 2-4GB, that could take a week on my connection.
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At first glance at the page, I was prepared to file it under "fan fiction", but then I read on. If they have hired DC Fontana and David Gerrold as authors (and they have!), then this is a lot more than fan fiction. This is the real thing.
[blowing own horn]
Some fan fiction is as good, or better, as the 'real thing'.
[/blowing own horn]
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At first glance at the page, I was prepared to file it under "fan fiction", but then I read on. If they have hired DC Fontana and David Gerrold as authors (and they have!), then this is a lot more than fan fiction. This is the real thing.
[blowing own horn]
Some fan fiction is as good, or better, as the 'real thing'.
[/blowing own horn]
^ I'll second that. ;D
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Thirded! *grin*
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Wasn't there some sort of Christian overtone to thefirst episode of this fan fiction series? I'd give it a look-see if they could keep their moralizing out of it. I have my own morals. I don't need theirs.
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I had thought of Kirk having a Christian upbringing, and definately McCoy. The way McCoy and Spock interact make it obvious. I don't think they were forcing their ideals or morals on you, just projecting the characters' morals and ideals to the audience for you to make up your own mind about. :)
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Well, as with Gene Roddenberry's beliefs, I believe at least McCoy wasn't a Christian and regarded it--like how many religions today are regarded--as myths. It's been a while since I've seen Star Trek V so I don't know if any contradictions happened between the that movie and the line McCoy spatted out in Star Trek II:
"According to myth, the Earth was created in six days. Now watch out, here coomes Genesis! We'll do it for you in six minutes!"
(I don't know if Christianity's a myth or not, so please don't bug me about it, bug McCoy when you discuss Trek.)
So, while Kirk and McCoy may or may not believe a God or Gods/Goddesses are out there, I don't believe they're truely Christians. They might take lessons from the religion, but they treat them as stories, much like how we treat Star Trek as, even though Star Trek sometimes drops in a couple of lessons for humanity to learn.
Add to that, look at the negativity religion had, from statements that they're myths to having Gods slayed by Enterprise to invoking religion to justify terrorizing the NX-01 crew to how religion was viewed in a negative light in TNG episodes like "Who Watches the Watchers?", etc. Though religion in general may have not been viewed entirely in negative light, like how DS9 allowed the Wormhole Aliens to masquerade around as gods for Bajorans to indian tribe religions in TNG and Voyager being practiced.
So... *shrug* I wouldn't be so sure the characters are Christians.
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I guess it depends on what you think a christian is. I've heard Jessie Jackson say Christianity was mythology, and he's a reverend, right? I was pretty shocked when I heard him refer to it as such, but there it was.
Here's something I always wondered. We have very few "indians" as it stands these days. Then there was supposed to be this huge world wide holocaust, right? So, how is it that there are plenty of indian descendants to go around in starfleet, and they all know they history and religion of their ancestors (and practice it too). I would have to assume that they didn't all just sign up for starfleet eight. Hmmmm.
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In Harms Way - is brilliant. It reprises William Windom as Commodore Decker. See it!
Great to see George on there - Walter as well.