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Title: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: IAF Lyrkiller on February 20, 2007, 11:32:27 am
4 months, 5 months ago? give or take a month. I think everyone in D2 is getting mightly restless.

NOW GET A SERVER UP!!!! NOW!!!!!! ;D

(big hint at Dizzy and DH) ;)
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Sirgod on February 20, 2007, 11:34:09 am
C'mon now, you can't give Dizzy a hint, To get his attention, you have to break a cue stick over his head.

Sheesh.

Stephen
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: IAF Lyrkiller on February 20, 2007, 11:40:09 am
I will do more than that. ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on February 20, 2007, 11:44:11 am
I have no help to offer in preparing a server campaign, so I won't b*tch about how long it has been.  For those who want to b*tch, they should step right up and help people like Dizzy and DH out.  
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: IAF Lyrkiller on February 20, 2007, 11:46:43 am
What kinid of help do they need?
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Sirgod on February 20, 2007, 01:33:21 pm
I have no help to offer in preparing a server campaign, so I won't b*tch about how long it has been.  For those who want to b*tch, they should step right up and help people like Dizzy and DH out.   

Hey, I'm more then happy to help them out, Just let me know what I can do. I think that Lyre meant this as a joke though. Both are good people who provide a good service here, and I'm not talking about hand jobs Dizzy.

stephen
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on February 20, 2007, 03:14:52 pm
This is the 5th  "where's a server"  type thread he has started in the last few months. It's apparently an old joke.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Dizzy on February 20, 2007, 03:18:14 pm
What kinid of help do they need?

Good question... I'll get back to this one...

But just to let some know, doing a server is work. Much different than just loggin in and playing, doing a server requires a crap load of behind the scenes work and time. You gotta love this game and the players to do that sorta sh*t. While I love the game, I'm not too fond of some of you that dont contributue other than bitch...  ;) But that can change right now.

So here's the help I need:

YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

Get your players ready.

Decide on a mission pack. Do we go with an untested pack with Daves new warp missions or the old school. BIG decision there. (I've waited a long time for this community to hammer out these new missions. Are they dyna prime time ready?)

DH and I will get everything else done... if I can pry his fingers away from M2TW.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on February 20, 2007, 04:07:48 pm
I don't believe that they are Dyna Ready yet Dizzy.  But Dave's RL is more important that fixing them right now.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on February 20, 2007, 07:18:48 pm
What kinid of help do they need?

Good question... I'll get back to this one...

But just to let some know, doing a server is work. Much different than just loggin in and playing, doing a server requires a crap load of behind the scenes work and time. You gotta love this game and the players to do that sorta sh*t. While I love the game, I'm not too fond of some of you that dont contributue other than bitch...  ;) But that can change right now.

So here's the help I need:

YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

Get your players ready.

Decide on a mission pack. Do we go with an untested pack with Daves new warp missions or the old school. BIG decision there. (I've waited a long time for this community to hammer out these new missions. Are they dyna prime time ready?)

DH and I will get everything else done... if I can pry his fingers away from M2TW.

I can agree to this :)
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 20, 2007, 08:19:13 pm

So here's the help I need:

YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

Get your players ready.

Decide on a mission pack. Do we go with an untested pack with Daves new warp missions or the old school. BIG decision there. (I've waited a long time for this community to hammer out these new missions. Are they dyna prime time ready?)
Quote

Easier to do once we know the sides, Races used, etc.

We've had Coalition and Alliance Storm Season 3 forums up on sfc2.net since...I don't know how long. We could use those.

See first answer.

Unsure of this, I believe we're waiting for ED, but, I agree, RL has to come before some things.
Be patient and give Dave the time he needs to get it done right, rather than push and maybe miss something.  ;)
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: NuclearWessels on February 21, 2007, 01:15:04 am

If the goal is to have a serious server sometime soon [which seems like a good idea - the natives are getting restless!] then I'd recommend going with the older missions.

The new ones are close, but there are still bugs and they desperately need a bigger test crowd to find the hidden ones.  Q and Alpha and DH have done a lot of testing [many many thanks everyone who has been testing!] but we need a bunch of people flying in groups in a variety of races to be sure we've seen all [well, most] of the damn little beasts.  So it could easily be May before I've had another hammer at them.   :-\

Whatever the decision, it's high time to blow some sh*t up!  ;D

dave



Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: IAF Lyrkiller on February 21, 2007, 02:03:50 am
No I am not joking, but I am willing to help Dizzy any way I can.

Research, or anything like that I can do.

PM me on what you need. and I will help out.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Capt Jeff on February 21, 2007, 06:51:26 am
I can easily put up forums on SFC2.Net once the sides and RM's have been decided.

The reason SS3 has stalled is simple....rules and time.  The second I mentioned developing the campaign, the "I wont play unless this rule is/is not used" statements started coming in.  Kind of a turn off to putting in that much work.....

Also, I do not have my own equipment to run the server on, and for a while there D.Net was pretty unstable and I didn't think  it could handle the load with the bandwith problems if I atempted to use their server.  I am also working about 60 hours a week right now.

So, I'd say SS3 is not dead, just in hibernation until late spring when I have more time, and can nail down who can host it.

Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 21, 2007, 02:12:23 pm

If the goal is to have a serious server sometime soon [which seems like a good idea - the natives are getting restless!] then I'd recommend going with the older missions.

The new ones are close, but there are still bugs and they desperately need a bigger test crowd to find the hidden ones.  Q and Alpha and DH have done a lot of testing [many many thanks everyone who has been testing!] but we need a bunch of people flying in groups in a variety of races to be sure we've seen all [well, most] of the damn little beasts.  So it could easily be May before I've had another hammer at them.   :-\

Whatever the decision, it's high time to blow some sh*t up!  ;D

dave







I see the test server hasn't been around in a bit. Perhaps we could put it back up with the latest batch?
Maybe...if we talk real nice, we can even get Frey to host it.  ;D
I wouldn't even object to taking all other OP servers, with only a test server up.  ;)
I might even break out the whips and see if I can't beat some pilots into running some missions there.   :P  :whip:
Rather get the missions worked out, rather than pull missions during the course of a server (been done many times) and listening to the players bitching.  :-\
I know it'll mean a longer delay, but that just gives all the admins more time to do their thing... ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on February 21, 2007, 02:19:45 pm
What about getting a quick and dirty campaign up using the scripts.  I wouldn't mind a number of short campaigns like "Errand of Mercy...Without Kirk."  Or "The Enterprise Incident...gone bad."  How about: "Arena...with Romulans."  Find one with the Hydrans and the ISC and we should be able to get everything tested.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Dizzy on February 21, 2007, 10:45:54 pm
FYI: Talked to dave and we will use the old mission pack.

Here's another repeat for the help I need:

1.) YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

   Krueg complained that RM's cant be chosen till sides are agreed... I say no because there are only a few individuals that can get their player base going and form a cohesive group that will actually show up for a server. So these few guys need to talk about the sides and arrange a cpl ideas and I'll go off that. To say it plain, I'm not picking the sides from scatch. RM's send me a cpl ideas.

2.) Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

3.) Get your players ready.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Dizzy on February 21, 2007, 11:12:01 pm
The reason SS3 has stalled is simple....rules and time.  The second I mentioned developing the campaign, the "I wont play unless this rule is/is not used" statements started coming in.  Kind of a turn off to putting in that much work.....

Thats funny, Jeff... I think you are too friendly with these guys and they mistake that friendship thinking they can take advantage of it and have the server their way without regard for the balance issues you face when having to concede to their warped pov. The only person I ever remember telling me that they wouldn't play unless a rule was there/not there/changed was *****. Course he had good reason. He interpreted the last disengagement rule of 7 hexes to be a 7 hex DIAMETER. Now, I can't multiply hexes very well, but lets just say thats about a 5th of the map, lol. 7 hexes meant the hex you're in and those adjacent. Guess the guy stopped reading the rule after the 1st few words, lol. Guess he was too shocked to read the remainder after it dawned upon him the worng way. I thought that was pretty damned funny... I even had to send the guy a PM explaining it to, haha. Oh, and tool. But he complains life and death about everything every server... :P But that's a good thing. This dude actually knows about balance.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 22, 2007, 04:26:53 pm
FYI: Talked to dave and we will use the old mission pack.

Here's another repeat for the help I need:

1.) YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

   Krueg complained that RM's cant be chosen till sides are agreed... I say no because there are only a few individuals that can get their player base going and form a cohesive group that will actually show up for a server. So these few guys need to talk about the sides and arrange a cpl ideas and I'll go off that. To say it plain, I'm not picking the sides from scatch. RM's send me a cpl ideas.

2.) Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

3.) Get your players ready.


I "complained"...*re-reads post* lol I didn't complain, I made a comment... ;D
There is always the possibility that some may step up for a RM/ARM position based on what race is on that side. Players may also wait to decide what side to fly with based on what races are on that paticular side. Seen it happen that way.
Didn't realize it was taken as "complaining"

All we'd need to do for forums is rename the SS3 ones on sfc2.net.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Dizzy on February 22, 2007, 07:39:09 pm
Anything you complain about can and will be used against you... :P
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 22, 2007, 08:59:27 pm
Anything you complain about can and will be used against you... :P

Yeah, I've used to that on your servers... :-\








 :P ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 22, 2007, 10:54:04 pm
Ok, PMs and emails sent and replied to.
Thanks for all the (surprisingly) rapid responses to those invloved.
Coalition Forces (assuming "Historical" alliances) are Ready.
ARMs are pending.
Where's the Test sever?
Links for rules page? *note to self, buy new Black cartridge for printing multi-page rules.*
Webmap for this one?
CnC will be handled How? ie: Cap ship builds, Ship class points limits?
Change name on SS3 forums on sfc.net or make new ones?
Fighter list to be used...?
When do we start?
 ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Capt Jeff on February 23, 2007, 06:21:34 am
Hey Krueg (since you seem the most organized here ;) ) , PM me once you have the RM's you want and whatever the name of the campaign is going to be, and I'll have the forums ready in no more then 24 hours.


All I am waiting on is who is going to be the mods for both sides, and what the campaign is going to be called and I can make the changes in like 5 minutes, but I can't do anything without the info.....

Thank-You
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Hexx on February 23, 2007, 05:50:12 pm
I think Dizzy meant we (by which *I* mean You..) are supposed to set up the alliances etc ourselves.
Or basically figure out who's flying for what side, how foten they might fly, then set up the alliances so the sides are balanced.

He is gettin kinda lazy...

Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on February 23, 2007, 05:57:14 pm
Hey Krueg (since you seem the most organized here ;) ) , PM me once you have the RM's you want and whatever the name of the campaign is going to be, and I'll have the forums ready in no more then 24 hours.


All I am waiting on is who is going to be the mods for both sides, and what the campaign is going to be called and I can make the changes in like 5 minutes, but I can't do anything without the info.....

Thank-You

Well, you can leave me as moderator of the SS3 (Coalition) forums and simply change the name to SGO 7.
I can add ARMs to the Coalition High Command forums as needed, I've already cleaned those forums out from the last campaign, and there's only 3 members of the SS3 forums, you can even leave those in and if they wish to change they can let me know.
Oh, I guess you could also change the High Command forums to reflect SGO 7 instead of SGO 6.  ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: el-Karnak on February 28, 2007, 11:26:57 pm
I have been MIA since 2006Q3.0 due to some pressing RL issues, but they are taken cared off now.

If I remember correctly, last fall,  we were all talking about warp-out missions.  If we can get some testers in March, I can look at getting these warp-out missions working A-OK in a new mission pack.  Pretty much what would be ideal is a test server running EEK missions and a few dedicated testers like Bonk and DRB were. We were knocking bugs really quickly cuz we all got co-ordinated on RW with myself and the testers running missions, fixing the bug on the fly, and testing it again right away. After a defect fix, once a mission worked correctly 3 consecutive times, it was certified dyna-ready.

Then we can get a server going with the new pack.

BTW, has Dizzy been causing any trouble lately?  ;D
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 02, 2007, 09:16:52 pm

So here's the help I need:

YOU GUYS come up with RM's and ARM's.

Get a private forum for the two sides going like we did for the last server.

Get your players ready.

Decide on a mission pack. Do we go with an untested pack with Daves new warp missions or the old school. BIG decision there. (I've waited a long time for this community to hammer out these new missions. Are they dyna prime time ready?)

DH and I will get everything else done... if I can pry his fingers away from M2TW.

The Coalition is well on the way to being ready.
Who will lead the Alliance? Be forum moderator?
Don't be shy, someone step up and take Command.  ;)
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Hexx on March 02, 2007, 09:40:04 pm
Hmmm... does the Alliance leader get any special priveleges?
A completely tricked out STL (A turn mode.. PlasmaD's..you know)?
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 02, 2007, 10:11:35 pm
Well, sure, you'll get all the usual leader perks...
You'll get to do most of the planning, get to explain to your own players a hundred times what you're trying to accomplish as a team every night, get to type dozens of posts that only a few will read, try to keep track of who's flying what Capitol and specialty ships to make sure your side is within limits set, and if you're real lucky, you can even actually fly some missions and have some good fights... :P
Jeeze, how much more could you ask for...?

I did like the "L" ships on SGO6, but, in later eras, they were outclassed. But, it did make the ship much more effective, no matter what it was.
And since it didn't count vs any CnC, it made a great wing for the Capitol ships and Carriers.
It was fun, and I would have no objections to seeing the Supreme Commanders getting them again, with the same restrictions on hull classes.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 03, 2007, 12:40:46 am
Ya know...there's a perfectly good RM forum, now devoid of members, on sfc2.net as well.
Maybe we could use it for all SGO 7 RM communication, rules "discussions" etc?
I've had a "Pending" request for access there for a while...maybe the email glitch that seems to re-occur.
Jeff? Possible?
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBF-Crim on March 03, 2007, 12:55:01 am
Short answer.....too damn long...
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Hexx on March 03, 2007, 09:56:30 am
???

Of course no one listens to you.
Hard to take a man dressed in leather humming ABBA ditties over VT seriously.
That being said, you also should learn to simplify..

Hexx's commands for SGO7 would be
1) Have more VP hexes than bad guys at end of every day.
2) Have more VP kills at end of every day.
Easy.Breezy.Beautiful.where was I going with this?

Oh yes,assuming this thing kicks off in MArch/April I can lead the Alliance.
I'll trade you the Lyrans for the Kzin btw.... wait is Kroma playing? Can I trade my plasma race away?
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Hexx on March 03, 2007, 07:27:21 pm
Ya know...there's a perfectly good RM forum, now devoid of members, on sfc2.net as well.
Maybe we could use it for all SGO 7 RM communication, rules "discussions" etc?
I've had a "Pending" request for access there for a while...maybe the email glitch that seems to re-occur.
Jeff? Possible?

Why not just use the SGO6 Rm forum here... who has access?
I think I still do so I can be annoying.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 03, 2007, 11:49:47 pm
Ya know...there's a perfectly good RM forum, now devoid of members, on sfc2.net as well.
Maybe we could use it for all SGO 7 RM communication, rules "discussions" etc?
I've had a "Pending" request for access there for a while...maybe the email glitch that seems to re-occur.
Jeff? Possible?

Why not just use the SGO6 Rm forum here... who has access?
I think I still do so I can be annoying.

Either way. I was thinking the empty one on sfc2.net would be easy since it doesn't alreay have pages of posts and no membership modifications would be needed.
But, if someone is willing clean the SGO6 forums up, they'll do just fine.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: likkerpig on March 04, 2007, 01:22:08 pm
Well, I know I'll never do a dyna again, even if I wanted to. No big thing.
But the "incident" drove away a fleet of... I dunno, 8-10 dedicated players, that is a sizable chunk of the player base.
Too bad it had to come to that, over ego.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 04, 2007, 04:01:28 pm
Well, I know I'll never do a dyna again, even if I wanted to. No big thing.
But the "incident" drove away a fleet of... I dunno, 8-10 dedicated players, that is a sizable chunk of the player base.
Too bad it had to come to that, over ego.


Um...what...?  :huh:
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on March 04, 2007, 04:28:20 pm
Well, I know I'll never do a dyna again, even if I wanted to. No big thing.
But the "incident" drove away a fleet of... I dunno, 8-10 dedicated players, that is a sizable chunk of the player base.
Too bad it had to come to that, over ego.


Um...what...?  :huh:

I've been out of the loop for a while, Huh?
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: IAF Lyrkiller on March 04, 2007, 06:40:00 pm
I too, have been out of the loop. :)
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Grim on March 04, 2007, 08:15:36 pm
I think Likker is talking about SSCF, when some of their members quit playing the game partly due to some disagreements concerning a server (Feds and klinks vs everyone else IIRC).

And there may have been some issues in regard to a server from the GW series, concerning LDR :huh:, but I may be mistaken. (Welcome to correct me if I am talking about the wrong server/servers, it was some time ago.)

If I remember correctly it got pretty heated around that time and some players left the game and never came back, we did see a player drop after those events.

Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on March 04, 2007, 08:17:40 pm
that's a few years ago now, at least 2......
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Grim on March 04, 2007, 08:21:16 pm
that's a few years ago now, at least 2......

I know... But like i said some players who witnessed those heated arguments at the time, left the game and never came back.

If the game stops being fun for someone you can't blame them for moving on and finding something else to play.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: likkerpig on March 04, 2007, 11:13:24 pm
Sigh...
Anyone seen the Far Star Demons (FSD) around lately...?
I'm being presumptuous in assuming the same thing that drove me away was the same for them, but the timing sure works. We are (well some of them) from the same part of the world, that may have something to do with it.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Hexx on March 05, 2007, 07:04:28 am
Could be I suppose.. (though I have no idea why you left either..)
I had assumed though..since none of FSD's last posts seemed hostile or anything bad, that they had just grown bored with the
really, really, really,long time between servers.

As have most of our player base I'd guess.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on March 05, 2007, 08:47:07 am
Sigh...
Anyone seen the Far Star Demons (FSD) around lately...?
I'm being presumptuous in assuming the same thing that drove me away was the same for them, but the timing sure works. We are (well some of them) from the same part of the world, that may have something to do with it.


They played on the last few servers, even have seen them occasionally on the forge (when it was up).
Mutt has already joined the Coalition forums for SGO7.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on March 05, 2007, 09:50:46 am
One or more of FSD serve in the military and shouldn't be thought of as gone. Also, a number of people don't bother to post for the heck of it and simply sit back until there's a server.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: CaptJosh on March 05, 2007, 02:10:44 pm
Yeah, the FSD folks still play. They just have lives outside OP which sometimes take precedence.
Title: Re: How long ago was our last server?
Post by: Dizzy on March 05, 2007, 03:20:01 pm
Well my schedule has just cleared up. DH, I'll send you a PM so we can get started if you are free to begin.