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Title: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 12:50:11 pm
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/I_Mudd/HelenaADV.jpg)

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JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on July 23, 2008, 01:09:04 pm
Very nice looking ship.  Looks kinda like a TOS Sovereign.

What role do you think it should fill?
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 01:23:22 pm
Whatever you want ... I just build them ... lol.

Seriously.

I suppose since it was initially designed as a medium cruiser, anything from Battlecruiser to Light Cruiser would work ...

(shrugs)

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Panzergranate on July 23, 2008, 02:23:10 pm
With the long hangar bay, reinforced space frame for high stress loads and overall size I'd recomend it as a medium strike cruiser or medium assault cruiser. Maybe even a medium commando cruiser.

It sure looks like it is more purposeful than he average Federation starship.

Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on July 23, 2008, 02:37:59 pm
It feels the role of the I like the way this ship looks category, looks beatiful as usual Mudd

How did you get the dome transparencies to work anyways?
that is a neat trick
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 02:57:53 pm
Ya gotta know the polys inside and out ...

;)

That help?

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: **M23** on July 23, 2008, 03:13:27 pm
Stunniing work.... model looks tight, textures are crisp, and the design is sheer quality.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Rod ONeal on July 23, 2008, 04:21:28 pm
Wow!!! What a beautiful ship. The 2ndary hull and neck design is particularly stunning.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Shadowfleet on July 23, 2008, 04:29:57 pm
Nice design and pic IM. I'd love to add her to my TOS fleet but I can't seem to find the link to download on your site.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 04:35:22 pm
Thanks for the kind words guys! It was alot of work, but a labor of love ... :P

(Click my Planet Mudd sig ... it'll take you there ... It's in the 'Available Starships/Originals Series Era' section. If you still can't find it, maybe you're not logged in, Shadowfleet.)

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: dragoon on July 23, 2008, 05:25:21 pm
And it's gone straight into my SFC3!!!
Great work.

Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 05:30:09 pm
It might take a little work to get it to look right in SFC3 ... not sure, as I don't do that version.  Glad ya like her though ... she is a looker, huh?

;)

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: dragoon on July 23, 2008, 05:32:31 pm
It might take a little work to get it to look right in SFC3 ... not sure, as I don't do that version.  Glad ya like her though ... she is a looker, huh?

;)

JM.

Took a little work, but it's in there, looking nice.

Is there any chance we could see conversions of some of your models or Model Parts into Galactic Civilisations 2?

I wish I could do it myself, but i've failed on every try.

Galciv has a number of Total conversions, but there is a real lack of community docks like SFC. I''m sure there would be big use of custom models. Wink
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Centurus on July 23, 2008, 05:36:43 pm
Mudd, where are you located so I can send you my cleaning bill.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 23, 2008, 05:43:00 pm
Well, hell, Dragoon ... post a screenie or two here and at Planet Mudd! Although I have little interest in SFC3 wholesale ... I still love eyecandy!

Never tried Galactic Civillizations 2 ... although I did DL a demo of the first one years ago. It's something to think about, I guess ... :)

F9thCenturus; I'm located at Planet Mudd ... ask for Norman 47 in accounts and finances.

:D

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: dragoon on July 23, 2008, 05:59:10 pm
Well, hell, Dragoon ... post a screenie or two here and at Planet Mudd! Although I have little interest in SFC3 wholesale ... I still love eyecandy!

Never tried Galactic Civillizations 2 ... although I did DL a demo of the first one years ago. It's something to think about, I guess ... :)

F9thCenturus; I'm located at Planet Mudd ... ask for Norman 47 in accounts and finances.

:D

JM.

My TI/VL/BS shots don't seem to work, and I will need to adjust the glows i've put on there. It was a very quick move over, and i've set it up as roughly equal to the TMP Miranda in the Rebalance mod. Will put some pics soon as I take some. ;D

Mackie tried to do a ship or two for me, but he said that Galciv format is strange or messed up as he put it. Your individual Hull pieces would fit real well with the "Lego" like ship builder. There is a Trek mod for galciv, but it's' a total conversion, and the ships have no Spec or Normal maps. Most of them are from SFC, and once their into Galciv 2 with Normal and Spec maps, they look fantastic!!

I'm hoping to see if I can get some people interested over on the galvic forum into setting up a community docks.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on July 23, 2008, 06:22:30 pm
Ya gotta know the polys inside and out ...

;)

That help?

JM.

Yes and to anyhone who actually builds these things it wasn't even cryptic!
LOL
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Centurus on July 23, 2008, 06:33:01 pm
Ya gotta know the polys inside and out ...

;)

That help?

JM.

Yes and to anyhone who actually builds these things it wasn't even cryptic!
LOL

I can't build them, and even I knew what Mudd was talking about.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: dragoon on July 23, 2008, 06:52:16 pm
Here's some quick shots, with less than perfect glows.. need to do some work. ;D

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9660/83226720xc7.th.jpg) (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=83226720xc7.jpg)

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7852/34839189ty0.th.jpg) (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34839189ty0.jpg)

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3052/33973709my2.th.jpg) (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33973709my2.jpg)

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5151/87102120ha5.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=87102120ha5.jpg)
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Dizzy on July 23, 2008, 07:35:02 pm
Holy Feds, Batman, this ship is gorgeous!
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: JohanobesusII on July 23, 2008, 08:54:49 pm
I hate to sound like a party pooper, but if you don't mind a bit of constructive criticism: there are a few gaps in the mesh, specifically on the inside of the hull surrounding the hanger door and at the joint around the bottom and side of the saucer.  The former I think just needs a texture mapped to it.  The latter just looks like the polygons aren't quite fitted together.

Despite that it is great.  The nacelles are beautiful.  Like so much of your work, I can't quite figure out where it would fit in the shiplist, but it is gorgeous.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Dizzy on July 24, 2008, 12:49:11 am
It really should have phaser bumps on the FA part of the saucer... Strange it only has 2x LS/RS phasers... I LOVE the transparency u added to the warps!!!
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Starforce2 on July 24, 2008, 08:44:55 am
hey mudd, any chacne you'd do that aurora from the animated series? It's a small cargoship, but cool looking none the less.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Shadowfleet on July 24, 2008, 04:01:16 pm
I found her - thanks IM! She's a beauty.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Centurus on July 24, 2008, 04:02:57 pm
... ask for Norman 47 in accounts and finances.

:D

JM.

Just talked to Norman.  He said my laundry does not compute.  So I smacked him with a rubber chicken and turned him into a George Forman Grill.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Tus-XC on July 25, 2008, 10:26:45 am
*whistles*
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on July 25, 2008, 01:31:40 pm
Really, really nice.

Is there an equally cool Klingon or Romulan counterpart to this?

Qapla'

KF
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Panzergranate on July 25, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
How about the D6 shown in ENT??

If you run trough the scene you suddenly realise that although it looks like the classic TOS D6 battlecruiser, actually the engine nacelles are vastly different at the front.

The front Disrupter bulge has been replaced with a glowing electric blue intake slot top to bottom and the sides are also different.

Anyone have a still shot of the ENT D6 battlecruiser, where the engines are shown in detail. It happened when it made a starboard, turn on screen, for a camera close fly by.

Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: I, Mudd. on July 25, 2008, 03:27:10 pm
Really, really nice.

Is there an equally cool Klingon or Romulan counterpart to this?

Qapla'

KF

I dunno ... have you SEEN any yet? LOL ...

(That is the plan, though ... in due time.)

I've been wanting to do something like this for a while now.

I have 4 more feds meshed in this style ... I'd like to add about four or five more to that ... Then, I plan to tweak a few unreleased Klingon meshes and work up a few Roms ... after that I think Kzinti and ISC are gonna be up ... not sure ... I also have a few Gorn plans.

I'd like to be able to get all of them done like ... right now ... but, RL time constraints do conflict with doing nothing but making these damn things ... If I actually got paid to do this, the Ol'Lady probably wouldn't complain so much ... lol.

So, we'll see ... eh?

(Oh ... and just a little extra info, KF ... that planet pack thing is on indefinite hold. The graphics engine at present will not do exactly what I want to do ... perhaps one day I'll revisit it with new ideas ... but for now, it's holding.)

:)

JM.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Starforce2 on July 25, 2008, 04:32:16 pm
*whistles*

Damn, that actualy looks like a late 70's early 80's studio shot for a movie poster...
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: SYLAR on July 26, 2008, 08:10:33 am
*whistles*

Damn, that actualy looks like a late 70's early 80's studio shot for a movie poster...

Initially I thought TUS was pointing out that this is where mud got the ship design from...   But then i realised i was just not paying proper attention, was not aware starfleet command was able to handle transparencies as with your buzzards Mudd.

Ship looks great, but starfleet commands dated engine really does not do the ship justice. TUS awsome job on that poster, very nice work indeed.
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on July 26, 2008, 09:35:11 am

I dunno ... have you SEEN any yet? LOL ...

How about something similar to the the K'teremny or D-10?


(That is the plan, though ... in due time.)

I've been wanting to do something like this for a while now.

I have 4 more feds meshed in this style ... I'd like to add about four or five more to that ... Then, I plan to tweak a few unreleased Klingon meshes and work up a few Roms ... after that I think Kzinti and ISC are gonna be up ... not sure ... I also have a few Gorn plans.

I'd like to be able to get all of them done like ... right now ... but, RL time constraints do conflict with doing nothing but making these damn things ... If I actually got paid to do this, the Ol'Lady probably wouldn't complain so much ... lol.

So, we'll see ... eh?


I'm sure whatever you get to will be a welcome addition to the SFC series. We all know real life is more important ;)


(Oh ... and just a little extra info, KF ... that planet pack thing is on indefinite hold. The graphics engine at present will not do exactly what I want to do ... perhaps one day I'll revisit it with new ideas ... but for now, it's holding.)

:)

JM.

That's too bad about the planets. I still hope they can be hard pointed for the next SFC OP 4.0+

Qapla'

KF
Title: Re: USS Helena at Planet Mudd
Post by: JohanobesusII on July 27, 2008, 03:29:32 am
How about the D6 shown in ENT??

If you run trough the scene you suddenly realise that although it looks like the classic TOS D6 battlecruiser, actually the engine nacelles are vastly different at the front.

The front Disrupter bulge has been replaced with a glowing electric blue intake slot top to bottom and the sides are also different.

Anyone have a still shot of the ENT D6 battlecruiser, where the engines are shown in detail. It happened when it made a starboard, turn on screen, for a camera close fly by.

If you're referring to the first episode to show a Klingon ship, Atra did one up at the time.  You might be able to find it somewhere.  However, that was not the model that the FX folks wanted to use.  They made a more primitive looking D5, but the corporate execs wanted more lights.  It was too late to spend a lot of time editing the model, so they used the stock K'tinga model with only a bit of tweaking.  The fellow who designed the first D5 explained the situation and posted images of the intended model.  It later made its way into a Ships of the Line calendar.  A couple of seasons later they used a very different model as the D5.  The official line from the production staff is that we should just ignore the ship that was shown, and mentally substitute either the intended model or the cannon D5.

Atra has an adaptation of the intended D5 on the back burner, though he calls it a D4, out of deference to SFB.  He has released a TOS refit.