Well, it looks like Abrams has succeeded in raping Star Trek to death. :'(
Well, it looks like Abrams has succeeded in raping Star Trek to death. :'(
Did you see the movie? B&B raped TOS way worse and were not nearly as entertaining.
Wolverine was alright, storyline was all fubar to what it should be. Hmmm a reboot of wolverine, might not want to see it either then.
I've been watching the show longer than some here have been alive.. can I *now* say that I don't like the movie without all the Abrhams apologists jumping on me for not giving it a chance? Have I been watching long enough to have a valid opinion? Have I paid enough to see all the previous movies, series and restarts (I'm talking you ST:E), that my opinion is considered valid?
A few more things which annoy me about the plot.
1. I find the destruction of Romulus to be implausible. Stars don't go nova overnight. It would have been noticeably unstable for centuries before going off. I can't fathom how an interstellar empire wouldn't have an evacuation plan in place to counter such a threat to their homeworld. Also, if this is the TNG era, the Romulans are masters of black holes. they create artificial singularities to power their ships. Why would they need Spock's help?
2. Finally, since Nero ended up in the past, why didn't he try to prevent the catastropy, instead of going on some insane quest for revenge?
Wolverine was alright, storyline was all fubar to what it should be. Hmmm a reboot of wolverine, might not want to see it either then.
Wolverine origins butchers his origin WAY more than Star Trek did.
Wolverine was alright, storyline was all fubar to what it should be. Hmmm a reboot of wolverine, might not want to see it either then.
Wolverine origins butchers his origin WAY more than Star Trek did.
I've only seen the 1st X-Man movie so far but one thing to remember is that the Super Hero movies are moving comic books to the big screen. Totally different limits there.
Of course they totally rewrote things in unneeded ways. Logan's wife was supposed to have been killed by Sabretooth about a century ago. He was supposed to have lost his memory as a side effect of giving him the adamantite skeleton and spent quite some time on a Canadian super hero team. I guess it isn't too surprising that Hollywood was not interested in a team of Canadian super heros saving the world? Just doesn't cater to the U.S. market enough.
One word for me.. casting....
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Now get off my lawn! ;)
A few more things which annoy me about the plot.
1. I find the destruction of Romulus to be implausible. Stars don't go nova overnight. It would have been noticeably unstable for centuries before going off. I can't fathom how an interstellar empire wouldn't have an evacuation plan in place to counter such a threat to their homeworld. Also, if this is the TNG era, the Romulans are masters of black holes. they create artificial singularities to power their ships. Why would they need Spock's help?
2. Finally, since Nero ended up in the past, why didn't he try to prevent the catastropy, instead of going on some insane quest for revenge?
C'mon, don't pull the "US Market" card. They've redone Logan's background three times in his incarnation, changing things all the time.
Because he's a Romulan, it's what they do.
I thought they lamented the fact that in another reality, they might have called you friend.
Seriously, this film was worse than Nemesis.
7. Once more, why do the Romulans need Spock's help. They use $#%%ing artificial black holes to power their shipsThe Vulcans had the red matter, the romulans did not.
Quote7. Once more, why do the Romulans need Spock's help. They use $#%%ing artificial black holes to power their shipsThe Vulcans had the red matter, the romulans did not.
I could speculate a few reasons.Quote7. Once more, why do the Romulans need Spock's help. They use $#%%ing artificial black holes to power their shipsThe Vulcans had the red matter, the romulans did not.
But why would the Romulans need Vulcan red matter to do something that they have already been capable of doing for decades.
kirk banged a green broad. That alone is worth 3 stars.
Trek was the best movie of the summer by far.
kirk banged a green broad. That alone is worth 3 stars.
Trek was the best movie of the summer by far.
Can I have some of what you're smoking?
Well, it looks like Abrams has succeeded in raping Star Trek to death. :'(
Ok, I haven't seen Trek yet, but I tought District 9 was pretty darn good. Better than any other movie I saw this at the theatre this year. Best movie of the summer?
I saw this opening day, and a few things stand out to me.
1. Kelvin, I would belive the alternate timeline story if not for Kelvin. Please someone explain how that bridge fits between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701? At least with Enterprise they tried to make it look older tech wise than TOS, but for Kelvin Abrams threw cannon out the window. IT looks like a kitbash between Star Trek VI's bridge and the Reletivity honestly.
2. Nero's went back and time and altered the tmeline. Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but shouldn't someone have said hey wait a minute. You would think reletivity would intervene, or at least a timeship in generals to prevent this drastic change.]
3. The Technology, how did there technology jump 100 years ahead of its time, are we to belive that just becase on star ship was destroyed by an unknown vessel (happens alot in classic trek) that star fleet somehow made there tech look like it would normally by the time the Enterprise D launched.
4. Why did they use the shuttle to get to the ships? Its an emergency, and star fleet has transporters, star ships have transporters, wouldnt it be easier and faster to just beam the crew to the ship?
5. Kirk goes from cadet to captain from one mission. This is totally unbelivable
6. How the hell is Checkov on the ship, he would still be in Elemtry school in the late 2250's remember in 2267 he was a raw engisn freash from the acadamey.
I saw this opening day, and a few things stand out to me.
1. Kelvin, I would belive the alternate timeline story if not for Kelvin. Please someone explain how that bridge fits between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701? At least with Enterprise they tried to make it look older tech wise than TOS, but for Kelvin Abrams threw cannon out the window. IT looks like a kitbash between Star Trek VI's bridge and the Reletivity honestly.
2. Nero's went back and time and altered the tmeline. Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but shouldn't someone have said hey wait a minute. You would think reletivity would intervene, or at least a timeship in generals to prevent this drastic change.]
3. The Technology, how did there technology jump 100 years ahead of its time, are we to belive that just becase on star ship was destroyed by an unknown vessel (happens alot in classic trek) that star fleet somehow made there tech look like it would normally by the time the Enterprise D launched.
4. Why did they use the shuttle to get to the ships? Its an emergency, and star fleet has transporters, star ships have transporters, wouldnt it be easier and faster to just beam the crew to the ship?
5. Kirk goes from cadet to captain from one mission. This is totally unbelivable
6. How the hell is Checkov on the ship, he would still be in Elemtry school in the late 2250's remember in 2267 he was a raw engisn freash from the acadamey.
1. I agree, at first glance the Kelvin looks like it fits into canon, but once you see the inside, you realize it doesn't.
2.You would think
3. Supposedly, the Kelvin took high res scans of the Narada which resulted in Starfleet reverse engineering some of its 24th century technology and incorporating it into its ships. That's why the Enterprise is entering service over ten years later than it did in canon. I personally don't find that explanation believable, but when do things have to make sense in TROST's universe?
4. Once more, TROST doesn't care if things make sense
5. As someone who hate's this film, and its universe, I have to concede that we've beaten that horse to death here
6. Apparently Chekov is some sort of math prodigy. Also keep in mind that Starfleet isn't very selective in this timeline. They accept Kirk despite the fact that he has a criminal record.
4. for safety you would have people transfer from a hostile ship to yours by shuttle craft so you don't have to drop your shields. Even with the ships are unbalanced, a good salvo through a down shield could make a difference. Also as a mining ship, they didn't seem to have a large crew. So dropping your shields to have the enemy transport over, they could transport a large attack force in and outnumber them in HTH.
4. for safety you would have people transfer from a hostile ship to yours by shuttle craft so you don't have to drop your shields. Even with the ships are unbalanced, a good salvo through a down shield could make a difference. Also as a mining ship, they didn't seem to have a large crew. So dropping your shields to have the enemy transport over, they could transport a large attack force in and outnumber them in HTH.
I think he was referring to that dramatic scene at the beginning where all of the cadets were transported to their assigned ships via shuttle craft.
yes im refering to when all the cadets go aboard. Also the crew is 400 people, we only saw the officers aka cadets go aboard her, so there was a crew, she was being readied for the situation. Remember Star Trek V when an emergency occured they beamed all staff except kirk up because he didnt take his communicator so they couldnt locate him. Imeediate threat emergency, in TMP they used the shuttle cause there was a problem with the transporters, clearly said in dialouge. At least they explained why they needed the dramatic shuttle scene.
As for Chekov he was about 20 in 2267, so he is what 10 or 11 when this movie takes place? He doesnt look 10 or 11 to me.
And scans of the narda, doesnt mean crap, we have scans of the borg, but we have yet to be able to replicate there technology.
heh, you'd have thought the least they could do was have a young boy watching the shuttles launch and saying "Wow, I'm going to be there some day" followed by some older, fatherly gentleman shouting "Chekov, come along!" lol. There, he's included in the story, age appropriate and everyone still gets a little wink and a smile because they know he will be there.
Perhaps this is like the original Casino Royale. Is it a Bond film? yes, technically it is. but is it really? :D
yes im refering to when all the cadets go aboard. Also the crew is 400 people, we only saw the officers aka cadets go aboard her, so there was a crew, she was being readied for the situation. Remember Star Trek V when an emergency occured they beamed all staff except kirk up because he didnt take his communicator so they couldnt locate him. Imeediate threat emergency, in TMP they used the shuttle cause there was a problem with the transporters, clearly said in dialouge. At least they explained why they needed the dramatic shuttle scene.
As for Chekov he was about 20 in 2267, so he is what 10 or 11 when this movie takes place? He doesnt look 10 or 11 to me.
And scans of the narda, doesnt mean crap, we have scans of the borg, but we have yet to be able to replicate there technology.