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Title: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on August 31, 2010, 04:38:13 pm
Thought I'd give Atolm's Krilos Warbird a shot.  As you can see, I am have a bit of trouble with the wing.

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Adonis on August 31, 2010, 07:30:33 pm
Make the segmentation of the wings horizontal too, you'll be able to control the shape better that way.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Wicked Zombie on September 01, 2010, 06:10:13 pm
I've ran into similar situations with those types of wings. I suggest looking at them as if they were half of a squashed sphere hit with a wing-shaped cookie cutter.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on September 01, 2010, 11:43:09 pm
What i would do , dont do it,  :laugh: it might be more work than Wicked Zombie's option.
 Create a plane or box useing the front view and extrude and scale the sections smaller to fit the profile of the side view. Note roms profile seems to taper thin to the rear so verts each section farther to rear need to be scaled thiner.
You may find some verts will intersect to shape it right you may have to weld some verts to avoid auto smoothing errors. The wing can be done under  :woot: ?200 poly if verts are moved right. This is a real low poly idea though. 
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on September 03, 2010, 01:46:17 pm
Thanks for the tips, I'll give them a go this weekend and see what I can come up with.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on September 05, 2010, 08:49:26 pm
Okay, here a second hack at the beastie.  I think it has improved some.  The geometry of those wings is challenging to say the least.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on September 11, 2010, 05:47:37 pm
 8)
looking good thus far mate :)
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on September 12, 2010, 08:13:55 pm
Thanks.   :)

A little more progress made today.

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on September 12, 2010, 09:42:34 pm
Damn nice  :thumbsup: You can cut alot of poly on the bridge and lower sections by welding the verts and still keep the basic shape for sfc. Damn good job here its going rule!
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on September 12, 2010, 09:45:21 pm
Looking good man
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on September 15, 2010, 07:52:24 pm
Thanks guys.  I am thinking she will be in the 4000ish poly range.  Does that work well with SFC?
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on September 15, 2010, 09:04:33 pm
Damn good job ! That poly will work with pcs these days. :thumbsup: A 1999/2002 stock SFCOP model would be no higher than 700 poly but cant get that kind of detail for 700 poly.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on September 15, 2010, 11:03:02 pm
4K is good for a modern system
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 15, 2010, 11:20:18 pm
Personally, my personal limit varies from size class. I try not to go above 500 triangles for fighters, 8k for smaller ships up to CAs, 12k for BCHs and up, 18k for stations, but I have broken this from time to time.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on September 18, 2010, 07:38:59 pm
Thanks for the input...running 4200 ish at the moment.  Here a picy to show how the nacell configuration is looking.

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on September 18, 2010, 07:59:00 pm
I think its the angle but the engines look a little big to me.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: markyd on September 24, 2010, 03:06:32 am
A difficult build for sure. Your doing a good job, keep at it.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on October 01, 2010, 08:12:30 pm
Laying some paint ...

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on October 01, 2010, 08:23:10 pm
Ooh nice, the panaling needs a more 3d effect but then again your not done yet.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on October 01, 2010, 09:38:26 pm
WoW! That's really nice. FoaS should put up a Romulan fleet based on Atolm's Romulans...
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Aramus on October 02, 2010, 02:16:58 am
Nice paintjob  :)
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on October 02, 2010, 08:30:58 am
WoW! That's really nice. FoaS should put up a Romulan fleet based on Atolm's Romulans...

I have always wondered why more modellers don't create Romulan ships.  Without doubt, Atolm has some of the most unique Romulan designs out there.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on October 02, 2010, 10:53:04 pm
WoW! That's really nice. FoaS should put up a Romulan fleet based on Atolm's Romulans...

I have always wondered why more modellers don't create Romulan ships.  Without doubt, Atolm has some of the most unique Romulan designs out there.

Some modelers have fleets of them but the lack of ability to texture any quality they dont release.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on October 03, 2010, 04:06:22 pm
Some modelers have fleets of them but the lack of ability to texture any quality they dont release.

I can understand that.  Modelling is challenging enough.  Texturing can be a daunting and damn frustrating.   :laugh:

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: FoaS_XC on October 03, 2010, 04:09:02 pm
I know for me its more about time and duration of effort. It takes me a long time to get a model out, and so by the time I get to the next one I want to slit my wrists.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on October 03, 2010, 07:18:26 pm
Burnout can be a problem for me too. To combat that I try to keep several ship going at once. That way if one get to be too much I move to another. This way I don't get board. I also am a bit of a perfectionest on certain things. Pen working on a Galaxy class mod for A2 on and off for 2 years now and I'm still not satified with the ship yet.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: markyd on October 14, 2010, 02:34:44 pm
Textures look fantastic buddy  8)
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on October 14, 2010, 03:09:30 pm
Thanks!

Working on the bottom section at the moment.

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on October 14, 2010, 05:34:35 pm
Nice more please :smitten:
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on October 14, 2010, 07:47:22 pm
oh the Anticipation :)
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on October 20, 2010, 07:30:46 pm
hey Pep, can you get me a 3/4 shot of the mesh in this view:
(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4522/conceptromulankriloscla.jpg)
I'd like to see if I interpreted the shapes correctly... just curious :)

Oh and if you can get me one of the ship banking like the one in the top left-hand corner(all these are for a final drawing I'd like to do) :
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4522/conceptromulankriloscla.jpg)
thanks mate
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on October 21, 2010, 06:10:01 pm
She what you think of these.  Just working the hull perimeter.

Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Starfox1701 on October 21, 2010, 07:22:18 pm
nice :D
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Aramus on October 22, 2010, 01:53:39 pm
I think it looks great  :)
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on October 24, 2010, 07:11:19 pm
thnx
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on October 24, 2010, 09:45:49 pm
Just a thought no offence but the front profile looks thin fatten <-->  it out a little would look perfect. The warps vrs hull look too thick/tall for hull perspective.
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on October 25, 2010, 03:19:35 pm
I think that's from the render window in the modeler, rather than the actual mesh(adds that fish-eyed effect).
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Kreeargh on October 25, 2010, 08:59:54 pm
Oh damn my bad i forgot about milkshape view points  :-[ 
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: Atolm-Rising on December 21, 2010, 06:00:04 pm
anything going on with this :p , or am is the wind gone from the sail on this one :/ lol
Title: Re: Krilos Warbird WIP
Post by: pepperman on December 22, 2010, 06:55:56 am
I still have a few minor tweaks to make and how that the holidays are upon us I hope to squueze in enough time to put the wraps on her by News Years day.  Of course, the Klingon Throneship design you resently posted has me thinkinh about chasing shinny pennies.   ;)