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Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => Topic started by: Starfox1701 on September 12, 2010, 09:49:46 pm
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Need some C&C please
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While I've never been a big fan of the crystaline tholians, this is a solid start. It looks a bit washed out presently, but I think that can be easily rectified. Burn in some detail, or better yet make it look Etched in.
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Burn in some detail, or better yet make it look Etched in
K how exactly do I do that. I have maybe 25 % mastery of my CS3 photoshop
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Burn in some detail, or better yet make it look Etched in
K how exactly do I do that. I have maybe 25 % mastery of my CS3 photoshop
Nobody knows how to do this?
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Sorry - didn't see the reply. Create a new layer, fill an area in that layer and start playing with the Blending Options. I can get into some of my own personal techniques if you'd like.
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Sure, that would be much apereciated. Also where are my Blending Options? I can't find anything in my setup labled so.
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Okay, started an Image tutorial. Give me about 30 minutes and I'll post it on here as well as on my site. In fact here's a quick image of all the things I'll be covering for you.
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2945/tutorialj.jpg)
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Eh screw it. I'm starting a video tutorial as we speak. Works better than an image tutorial.
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K just post when its ready please and thanks man
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Videos have been made. Rendering and uploading them now.
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K where do I pic it up?
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Im uploading the last one as we speak. Keep your pants on ;)
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There are 5 parts to the video. I move rather quickly due to restrictions on Youtube. If you have any questions afterwards, feel free to ask away :)
Part 1
[youtube]RL-Qfvq6fmw[/youtube]
Part 2
[youtube]OBnAg6gTWvY[/youtube]
Part 3
[youtube]uNLazQQEb6A[/youtube]
Part 4
[youtube]2YFEJG1rlgc[/youtube]
Part 5
[youtube]2pRQ5EMZLpM[/youtube]
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Thanks. Give me a day or too to run through it fully and I'll get back to you with any questions.
Dam I've learned more in 10 min the I useally do in 2 months. Do you mind if I pass the youtube links to some friends learning this stuff too?
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Feel free. And feel free to pass on any questions they might have to, Better yet - have em sign up here :)
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Thanks
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I had a thought how to properly do those phaser arrays. Here's addendum 2 or Part 6 and addendum 3 or part 7.
Part 6 gives another technique as to how to get those rounded phaser arrays down just right.
[youtube]bVBN68lnpBM[/youtube]
Part 7 goes into how I texture windows for my starships.
[youtube]0P2zYUtGAV8[/youtube]
(as of this posting the videos are still processing, so you may have to give it a few minutes).
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Heres a first pass at the NDN texture. Still working on geting all the details to pop. Might also make these insets instead.
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Much more solid.
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Btw. First rule of texturing: Follow the motiff.
What I mean is that you really can't throw down a generic aztec pattern and expect it to look good. You've got to have the shapes of the textures work with the shape of the geometry. That ought to be relatively easy for this ship, but its something to bear in mind :)
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Well what I'm going for is that the ship's main hull looks like it was carved from a solid block of stone. What I'm not sure of is if I want the hull surfice to look polished or more textured.
Going to head to bed and keep at it over the next few days. Will keep you updated.
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(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9546/warpimpulse.jpg)
Tomorrow I'll make a vid about how I make my impulse and warp-grille textures :)
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Sure FOAS you will do anything, as long as it is not finishing and releasing a ship for the game
and I use to think I was easy to distract :D
and yes make the videos' as one most ppl don't have the patients to read a full explaination
and since you asked to answer any questions:
1 why i the sky blue
2 why do we have to age
etc
This is what you get when you post when you are tired and forget to add the smilley faces!
Yes Bonk I was teasing FOAS about taking the easy route, and yes he is more easily distracted than me, and he still needs to finish ships ;D
Either way to write up how to do textures is very hard, even the simplist of things can seem complex in writting. It would take weeks to write up how to texture the things he is showing by video and no one would every read every word as it would take to long. Written instructions would only be followed for the sections that are being done you would skim to that section and read that section only. Also there is normally a disconnect in the authours understanding and intent and most ppls abilities to inturpit it. I have spent allot of time with ppl over MSN trying write out how to do something and sending pictures it is a very hard process to do. In a forum setting it would be impossible and cleaning up the written document to be clear and easily understood without a feed back from the person you are working with is impossible.
I have read many write ups on how to do things as I am sure FOAS has as well, and it always leads to trial and error until you can work it out yourself. So written instructions with pictures really is not a good way to show things, as you will treat it like any text book you only read the parts that interest you and skip the rest. This is always the curse of written instructions, and why no one really reads a manual. People have started to use video tutorials as the newest method for showing how to do tasks as they are by far easier to understand. The only real problem with them is ppl take them as the only way to do something and lose out on the experimentation side of learning where they would develope their own work flow.
As for why why writting is so hard to get right, look at the simple statement "feel free to ask questions". The Intenet was to ask about the subject at hand, but the questions I was poking FOAS with had nothing to do with the subject. It is also why I thought the video idea had merit over the written route.
isn't interesting to see something that was made in jest have to turn so serious, it is the limitation of writing you can not see or hear the authors intent, it is based on your perception of them.
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*ahem* (http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163390698.msg1123011928.html#msg1123011928)
Why can't we all be positive about the skills that we have to share with each other? I can see I used to do this myself as a youth, and still do sometimes and catch myself. We do not bring ourselves up by tearing others down.
drb? He'll know what I mean, he's one of the people that helped get this through to me.
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*hangs head*
I knew I would regret saying that I'd answer questions.
(btw, bonk, I think GAFY was playfully poking)
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Part 8
Impulse engines and warp glows.
[youtube]mFVyI5I_BqI[/youtube]
I'm organizing my photoshop presets so I can upload them today :)
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Interesting so would that same patterening setup work for doing things like Fed Aztech paterens?
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Yup, that's exactly how I do aztecing, actually.
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Thank goodness. Sorry, I totally missed any sarcasm. I thought you meant it.
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One other thing I know most of the time its the tendency to keeps ships from the same time frame colored about the same. However there are may different typs of stone so wouldn't it be better to use different base stones for the hulls of each class?
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Damn i thought Tholians used crystals. SOME ONE PLEASE Remove my Dyna ACCOUNT>! >:(
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Huh?
Crystals, Rocks, what have you.
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Damn i thought Tholians used crystals. SOME ONE PLEASE Remove my Dyna ACCOUNT>! >:(
Now I'm really confused... :huh: Are you ghosted on the Dyna server? (we do not remove forums accounts or content here, it is all preserved)
Kreeargh, if there is some kind of issue going on that we can help with, send me a PM explaining the situation. We're here to have fun and will do our best to make sure everyone can do so in relative comfort.
BTW I really like this texturing job, Starfox1701. Very nice! IT is a good solution to the lack of transparency in SFC2, go with a good deep rock texture instead. It has a kind of granity - marbly look. I like it.
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It has a kind of granity - marbly look. I like it.
Thats because it is a granite counter top. The other details are Garnet, Sapphiere, Enerald, Quartz, and Topaz. I'm considering using different granites for the different classes.
Damn i thought Tholians used crystals
Granites are volcanic rocks composed of many different crystals that formed under high heat and pressure. They are among the stongest natualy accuring composits on earth. The different minerals present effect hardness and color.
SOME ONE PLEASE Remove my Dyna ACCOUNT>! >:(
WTF Dude you OK?
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It has a kind of granity - marbly look. I like it.
Thats because it is a granite counter top. The other details are Garnet, Sapphiere, Enerald, Quartz, and Topaz. I'm considering using different granites for the different classes.
Damn i thought Tholians used crystals
Granites are volcanic rocks composed of many different crystals that formed under high heat and pressure. They are among the stongest natualy accuring composits on earth. The different minerals present effect hardness and color.
SOME ONE PLEASE Remove my Dyna ACCOUNT>! >:(
WTF Dude you OK?
No im not so say my wife and doctors :-\. I see tholians as glowing colored crystal beings not grey granites. Any how sorry to highjack the thread. :-[
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I see tholians as glowing colored crystal beings not grey granites. Any how sorry to highjack the thread.
No worries. The people are "glowing colored crystal beings". And the ships can be any stone color I would guess. Here are a few other experiments I am tring. As you can see with the BB, DN, and PC I have 3 different kinds of granite and alot more to chose from. Google is my friend ;)
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I like the stone Idea, but I still think it needs more work because it all blends together at the minute and is difficult to see ship detail and stuff like that.
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I have contiued working on them and have an update. Heres the BB and CA
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and the CL and DD
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and the DN and the FF
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and lastly the PC
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and lastly the PC
This is my favorite so far
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As she was the only one ever seen on screen I decided to use rocks so it to look like the original footage
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and lastly the PC
Actually, I quite like this texture on it..
(http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=163390686.0;attach=20853;image)
Think that's quite sharp..
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If I can get them released I'll stick that one in as a alternate