Dynaverse.net

Taldrenites => Dynaverse II Experiences => Topic started by: FPF_TraceyG on April 18, 2003, 10:43:13 am

Title: Litterbox Update
Post by: FPF_TraceyG on April 18, 2003, 10:43:13 am
12 hours again after the server reset, it crashed again.
So we can rule out SQL or the shiplist causing it.

I replaced all the gf files on the Litterbox with the DOE GF files. And then ran the server, and guess what??
It didn't crash.
So, we have now narrowed the problem down to a server setting. (Fluf's fault... LOL!!) Which one, I have no idea because nearly all the settings are different.
Don't be too alarmed if some of the ship prices, spare parts, turns per year are a bit off at the moment. They'll be fixed shortly as they are all set to the Day of the Eagle specs currently. (Yes, that means for now you can blame Scipio for any problems!! Mwuhahahaha!!)
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Kortez on April 18, 2003, 11:53:28 am
Figures, Fluf ... I think all who have not voted for biggest donut hole should obviously see Fluf as a winner.
 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Soreyes on April 18, 2003, 12:06:58 pm
Well maybe this is a blessing in disguise
Im getting my butt kicked by the AI. The mission I find the hardest is the Courier mission. It is usualy my DD with two F-FFs Vs. L-CA, 2x L-CL, L-DD. Ouch
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 18, 2003, 12:25:22 pm
Quote:

12 hours again after the server reset, it crashed again.
So we can rule out SQL or the shiplist causing it.

I replaced all the gf files on the Litterbox with the DOE GF files. And then ran the server, and guess what??
It didn't crash.
So, we have now narrowed the problem down to a server setting. (Fluf's fault... LOL!!) Which one, I have no idea because nearly all the settings are different.
Don't be too alarmed if some of the ship prices, spare parts, turns per year are a bit off at the moment. They'll be fixed shortly as they are all set to the Day of the Eagle specs currently. (Yes, that means for now you can blame Scipio for any problems!! Mwuhahahaha!!)  




SOOOO, if all the settings are screwy, they'll be fixed in a little while, but my 2000 points will be gone anyway so It won't matter.... nggggggg..........!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FPF_TraceyG on April 18, 2003, 12:28:29 pm
Ok... I've made some adjustments to the gf files. All the spare parts, shipcosts, etc, should all now be Litterbox settings.
The errant gf file (I say this tentatively) appears to be metamap.gf, when I replaced the Litterbox metamap.gf file into the server, it crashed straight away. I may have missed a setting somewhere when editing the gf files to Litterbox specs, so if there is anything erroneous at all, please post it here.
Oh, thanks to FireSoul putting up a chat server, chat is now working on Litterbox 3.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on April 18, 2003, 12:49:02 pm
Oog.  Call me when this all gets straightened out once and for all.  


I'll try and amuse myself with something else until then.  I had finished yet another harrowing mission in an F5C this morning, gotten my obligatory 300 PP and that's gone all for naught again.  heheh...



 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FPF_TraceyG on April 18, 2003, 12:56:22 pm
Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Scipio_66 on April 18, 2003, 01:31:09 pm
Quote:

set to the Day of the Eagle specs currently. (Yes, that means for now you can blame Scipio for any problems!! Mwuhahahaha!!)  




Gak!!!

A good thing no one can reach me now, since I took a cue from J'inn and am now living in Nepal!  I don't have internet or e-mail access here, but feel free to telephone.  <snicker>

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Fluf on April 18, 2003, 03:35:36 pm
Yep everything seems to be working now as it should.  Appearantly, I left a setting I was using in single player to test with in the MetaMap.gf and it was causing the server to crash when it changed years.  Anybody that was playing from last night should still have their ships and PP.  This was not a reset, just a change in the files.

Note: you now have mandatory missions in neutral space.  We can change that if you would like to see non-mandatories in neutral.  

Oh and its all Scipios FAULT!
 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KATChuutRitt on April 18, 2003, 10:51:23 pm
Quote:

Quote:

set to the Day of the Eagle specs currently. (Yes, that means for now you can blame Scipio for any problems!! Mwuhahahaha!!)  




Gak!!!

A good thing no one can reach me now, since I took a cue from J'inn and am now living in Nepal!  I don't have internet or e-mail access here, but feel free to telephone.  <snicker>

-S'Cipio  




Yada Bir Pawnee Howjur Scippy!.....

BTW  thats Nepali
Chuut the Polyglot
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Laflin on April 19, 2003, 01:45:29 pm
Can someone tell me where one can get the latest updates please?  Jumped in a few days ago to check the shiplist and now of course changes have been made giving me my favorite CRC errors.  I'll sit around till everything is working - till then i'll keep having a ball with Freelancer.  
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: TheMaverick on April 19, 2003, 03:59:23 pm
Quote:

12 hours again after the server reset, it crashed again.
So we can rule out SQL or the shiplist causing it.

I replaced all the gf files on the Litterbox with the DOE GF files. And then ran the server, and guess what??
It didn't crash.
So, we have now narrowed the problem down to a server setting. (Fluf's fault... LOL!!) Which one, I have no idea because nearly all the settings are different.
Don't be too alarmed if some of the ship prices, spare parts, turns per year are a bit off at the moment. They'll be fixed shortly as they are all set to the Day of the Eagle specs currently. (Yes, that means for now you can blame Scipio for any problems!! Mwuhahahaha!!)  




"(Fluf's fault... LOL!!) "

Man I almost am starting to feel bad for the lil Fluffer he tried so hard to give us some enjoyable playing time and messed up so good *snicker* we love ya Fluf... but damn it is always your damn fault =)
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Fluf on April 19, 2003, 04:16:07 pm
Quote:

Can someone tell me where one can get the latest updates please?  Jumped in a few days ago to check the shiplist and now of course changes have been made giving me my favorite CRC errors.  I'll sit around till everything is working - till then i'll keep having a ball with Freelancer.  





Laflin the original dowload is down right now.  We exceeded our bandwidth.  Got to the same thread and if you already had the download, run the reinstaller that Rajnsaj has posted and it will revert you back to the original shiplist.  Or just make a copy of your original shiplist, run the installer and then put your original shiplist back in both your specs file and your MetaAssets file.

The original download is still on SteelClaws site , which is posted in that orginal thread.  Any new players, just copy your shiplist and put it on your desktop.  Then download the installer from SteelClaws site and run the exe.  Then copy your original shiplist back in and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 19, 2003, 08:52:08 pm
Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....






 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FPF_TraceyG on April 20, 2003, 12:02:23 am
Quote:

Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....

   




I'd take a K-F5C over a F-CL any day... lol!!
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 20, 2003, 09:45:14 am
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....

   




I'd take a K-F5C over a F-CL any day... lol!!  




I'll take an F-DD over an F-CL... same amount of power but less stuff to run off it.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-JD on April 20, 2003, 06:56:13 pm
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....

   




I'd take a K-F5C over a F-CL any day... lol!!  





Well,  let's see

F-CL  

Hull CL

2x phot
6x P-1
2x P-3

30 power

Shields

16
12
10
12

K-F5C

Hull FF

2x dis-3
2x Drone-a
2x P-1
3x P-2
1x amd 6

22 power

Shields

26
20
16
16

In early with slow drones 2 a-racks are not going to make much difference .  Klingons don't get anything with 6 P-1 Until mid era.(unless one of the dreads has more...)

I stated the F5C is the best thing in it's size for the Klingons, you don't like the CL, but you do have better ships avaliable in early.  For us the F5C is the only thing flyable in the starting range.

Anyway, ship to ship, I'll take the Fed CL at 100 early VS an F5C and win more than I'll lose.  True it's not a great ship, but it could be much worse.....  And I'm not very good at PvP.

jd

PS thanks for your efforts on the new servers!!!!  
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 21, 2003, 12:13:12 am
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....

   




I'd take a K-F5C over a F-CL any day... lol!!  





Well,  let's see

F-CL  

Hull CL

2x phot
6x P-1
2x P-3

30 power

Shields

16
12
10
12

K-F5C

Hull FF

2x dis-3
2x Drone-a
2x P-1
3x P-2
1x amd 6

22 power

Shields

26
20
16
16

In early with slow drones 2 a-racks are not going to make much difference .  Klingons don't get anything with 6 P-1 Until mid era.(unless one of the dreads has more...)

I stated the F5C is the best thing in it's size for the Klingons, you don't like the CL, but you do have better ships avaliable in early.  For us the F5C is the only thing flyable in the starting range.

Anyway, ship to ship, I'll take the Fed CL at 100 early VS an F5C and win more than I'll lose.  True it's not a great ship, but it could be much worse.....  And I'm not very good at PvP.

jd

PS thanks for your efforts on the new servers!!!!  




I thought the F-CL had 4 photons and the DD had 2 but you're probably right about engine power not being equal.  It would be hard to charge 4 photons with 19 power!!!
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FireSoul on April 21, 2003, 01:26:34 am
The F-CL is based on an "old style" cruiser.. and has only 2 photons.
The DD is a more modern saucer styled ship, and has 4.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KOTH-Steel Claw on April 21, 2003, 06:43:16 am
I think I would rather have the F-CL over the F-DD.  
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 21, 2003, 06:52:51 am
Quote:

The F-CL is based on an "old style" cruiser.. and has only 2 photons.
The DD is a more modern saucer styled ship, and has 4.  





eeek.... I guess I'd have to change my opinion then... The CL seems more managable.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FPF_TraceyG on April 21, 2003, 07:17:49 am
I'd take a F-DD over a F-CL anyday... lol!!
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FatherTed on April 21, 2003, 07:21:42 am
Quote:

I'd take a F-DD over a F-CL anyday... lol!!  




And I'd trade down to a FFG over either one of those scows.  
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on April 21, 2003, 10:16:12 am
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Dog, it should all be ok now, so feel free to start racking up prestige.  




LMAO......you must have missed the F5C part ...make 300.....spend 250 for repairs and supplies..... ....

   




I'd take a K-F5C over a F-CL any day... lol!!  




Me too...I think.  Haven't flown an F-CL in ages.  



I just hate early era.  To understand everything I say early on about a server, you  must take that into account.  



 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Fluf on April 21, 2003, 10:16:40 am
Thats something Ive been meaning to ask.  What starting ship in early would the Feds rather start in.  I almost made it the FFG, as it seems that most Feds downgrade to the thing almost immediately.  I know both the DD and CL suck and the Feds dont have it easy in early era until about 2265 when the CC+ comes out.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FireSoul on April 21, 2003, 10:33:01 am
I would take the FFG over the F-DD.
I would take the F-DDG over the F-CL.
.. maybe a F-FFL?
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on April 21, 2003, 10:50:00 am
Quote:

I would take the FFG over the F-DD.
I would take the F-DDG over the F-CL.
.. maybe a F-FFL?  





I would take the FFG over the DD or CL.  I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: wanderer on April 21, 2003, 11:16:39 am
Quote:


I would take the FFG over the DD or CL. I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.




Droner.

I stick with the FFG until the first NCL comes out...gotta have my photons......well, ok, the first NCL+...    
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on April 21, 2003, 12:14:39 pm
Quote:

Quote:


I would take the FFG over the DD or CL. I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.




Droner.

I stick with the FFG until the first NCL comes out...gotta have my photons......well, ok, the first NCL+...      




Droner!?  That's a hybrid boat, at best...


 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 21, 2003, 12:50:59 pm
FFL, DDL, NCLF, BCF:
</Homer Simpson on>

MMMM... Plasma....

</Homer Simpson off>
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Matsukasi on April 21, 2003, 01:25:28 pm
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


I would take the FFG over the DD or CL. I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.




Droner.

I stick with the FFG until the first NCL comes out...gotta have my photons......well, ok, the first NCL+...      




Droner!?  That's a hybrid boat, at best...


 




Hybridder!

...nah, not the same impact... it'll never take off....

If you like hybrids, boy do I have a fleet ( and a treat ) for you, Doggypoo.....

: Dangles Z-DD infront of Dog : Come on boy! Good poochy!  Wait til we get to mid era, pooch! Become a stinking drone-chucking alley cat!!!!

Matsukasi, believer in Lost Causes
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Maxillius on April 21, 2003, 01:31:22 pm
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


I would take the FFG over the DD or CL. I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.




Droner.

I stick with the FFG until the first NCL comes out...gotta have my photons......well, ok, the first NCL+...      




Droner!?  That's a hybrid boat, at best...


 




Hybridder!

...nah, not the same impact... it'll never take off....

If you like hybrids, boy do I have a fleet ( and a treat ) for you, Doggypoo.....

: Dangles Z-DD infront of Dog : Come on boy! Good poochy!  Wait til we get to mid era, pooch! Become a stinking drone-chucking alley cat!!!!

Matsukasi, believer in Lost Causes  




hmmm.. I think I'll go KAT for SG3...  Drones have a certain appeal to me.  And I like the challenge of trying to get slow ones through AMD!!!
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on April 21, 2003, 01:47:58 pm
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


I would take the FFG over the DD or CL. I would take the DDG over just about anything until the CLC comes out.




Droner.

I stick with the FFG until the first NCL comes out...gotta have my photons......well, ok, the first NCL+...      




Droner!?  That's a hybrid boat, at best...


 




Hybridder!

...nah, not the same impact... it'll never take off....

If you like hybrids, boy do I have a fleet ( and a treat ) for you, Doggypoo.....

: Dangles Z-DD infront of Dog : Come on boy! Good poochy!  Wait til we get to mid era, pooch! Become a stinking drone-chucking alley cat!!!!

Matsukasi, believer in Lost Causes  




I have enjoyed my time in a Z-DD on LB3.  The unfortunate thing is that I can't seem to feel right about flying Mirak when the Coalition is so badly outnumbered.  I realize this isn't always the case...it just is when i'm on and I feel bad...heheh.

Generally, those few times I've been on and the Coalition has the upper hand, I'll go log in and fly Mirak.  Still...the Alliance is winning the battle for the center and I always feel bad about contributing to that for some reason...heheh.




 
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Gumby on April 21, 2003, 01:57:54 pm
 Not that I fly freddy, but one thing i remember from the old days......  some old and wise SFB players stated the importance of Phasers over Heavy Weapons. So, if I recall hearing correctly, the CL has a fairly high compliment of phasers in comparison.  Myself I'd much rather rely on my phasers than Heavies.  One thing I loved about the ROC was unleashing its phaser barrage at close range.  Plus they also work well at extended range.  (Granted its nice to follow in a nice big red plasma R)

   
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: Karnak on April 21, 2003, 02:31:35 pm
Notice how the PvP tough races like ISC and Lyrans have lotsa Phaser 1s, hehe.
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: FatherTed on April 21, 2003, 04:17:19 pm
Quote:

Thats something Ive been meaning to ask.  What starting ship in early would the Feds rather start in.  I almost made it the FFG, as it seems that most Feds downgrade to the thing almost immediately.  I know both the DD and CL suck and the Feds dont have it easy in early era until about 2265 when the CC+ comes out.  




Setting the FFG as the starting ship would make a whole lot of happy Feds. The DD and CL were barely decent SFB ships, but in realtime SFC, they're hopelessly outclassed in most cases, especially in Evil Dave missions. Both have fatal flaws that make them deathtraps in a 1-on-1 PvP against an equal BPV ship.  
Title: Re: Litterbox Update
Post by: KBF-JD on April 22, 2003, 12:01:07 am
Quote:

Quote:

Thats something Ive been meaning to ask.  What starting ship in early would the Feds rather start in.  I almost made it the FFG, as it seems that most Feds downgrade to the thing almost immediately.  I know both the DD and CL suck and the Feds dont have it easy in early era until about 2265 when the CC+ comes out.  




Setting the FFG as the starting ship would make a whole lot of happy Feds. The DD and CL were barely decent SFB ships, but in realtime SFC, they're hopelessly outclassed in most cases, especially in Evil Dave missions. Both have fatal flaws that make them deathtraps in a 1-on-1 PvP against an equal BPV ship.  




Well, in SFB, ships generally had a weakness.  The Fed DD had lots of photons, but not enough power.  It made moving backwords very popular.  Without reverse, the DD lost a lot of it's SFC power.

The CL was based on an older design, but 6 p-1 at that price and 30 power...  is nice.  You need to use ECM and shield reinforcement to your advantage.  For the BPV the the was a very good ship in SFB.  I think it's a better ship in SFC than most give it credit.  It's just harder to fly than the DDG or FFG.  But with it's power curve and ability to take damage, it can be deadly at less that 100 bpv in early(repeat, In early).

The DDG is a great ship in SFC & SFB.  Take a DD take away the power hungry photons and give yoiu missles(and/or add) and you have a winner.  Shows EXACTLY the flaw in Taldren's G-rack.