Dynaverse.net

Taldrenites => General Starfleet Command Forum => Topic started by: MrCue on January 25, 2003, 08:54:55 pm

Title: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 25, 2003, 08:54:55 pm
88 AM mines and it still does not blow up

 [image]http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=100[/image]
 (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=101)
 (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=102)  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Arcilte on January 25, 2003, 08:59:45 pm
Pictures didn't work... but I saw them with good old cut and paste.  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Corbomite on January 25, 2003, 09:11:20 pm
Of course the AI cheats. How could it win otherwise?
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Whiplash on January 26, 2003, 12:06:39 pm
I  have seen the Sovreign Enterprise be impossible to blow up. In one of the Fed missions, I let it get pounded on relentlessly, and it never blew up.

W.
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 26, 2003, 01:24:19 pm
i witnessed it in a Black hole today, Explosion graphic was looping and it nevre blew up
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Aves on January 26, 2003, 02:10:42 pm
The AI Cheats?!?

Well it is as bad at cheating as it is at everything else (except dying)  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: ActiveX on January 26, 2003, 02:28:37 pm
Use 'img' rather than 'image' in the image code...

AI cheats eh? Well it must really suck at it if I can still be totally outclassed and kick its tail...  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Nephlite on January 26, 2003, 02:34:34 pm
Actaully some ships based on missions are flagged undestoryable.  I know there are several instances of this in the single player missions.

Special note about the Enterprise.  Based on special agreements with Paramount, I don't think game companies are allowed to blow it up in any game and be able to progress still.  Even in Bridge Commander I believe it was flagged as unkillable.

Nephlite

   
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: OMF_Michael on January 26, 2003, 06:07:52 pm
Actually the Enterprise E can be destroyed in BC if it rams something...Stylsy posted this on TUN...about the poor Enterprise...it seems it rammed a cardi outpost and went boom  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Kestrel on January 26, 2003, 10:50:07 pm
Apparently this is not a firm rule.  The Enterprise is very kill-able in Klingon Academy in the Academy Final Exam Mission.  I have delighted in destroying the Enterprise over and over again.  The Enterprise is scripted to warp in and around Earth during the Klingon invasion.  If you concentrate all fire on her warp engines, the kill is easy enough.  This may be a technicality.  The Final Exam is actually a simulation programmed by Admiral Chang, so the kill only exists in Chang's private fantasies.
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Rota on January 26, 2003, 11:07:22 pm
Where did you get 88 AM mines?  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 27, 2003, 06:19:08 am
change Default Core to read Mines:88:88:88
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: quarterwit on January 27, 2003, 10:13:51 am
"Change Default Core to read Mines:88:88:88?"

Well, that does sounds like evidence of SOMEONE cheating...



   
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 27, 2003, 12:05:36 pm
yes but i only did it to prove a theory, and even with that i am not indestructible. Only when i change the F-ARMOR-1's health to 5000000000 do i even come close. can u imagine trying to kill a saber that awas armed with that?

P.S, if you want Wolf 359 change B-Armor-5 to 10000 and pick a cube as your opponent
Title: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 25, 2003, 08:54:55 pm
88 AM mines and it still does not blow up

 [image]http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=100[/image]
 (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=101)
 (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/tunforum/download.php?id=102)  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Arcilte on January 25, 2003, 08:59:45 pm
Pictures didn't work... but I saw them with good old cut and paste.  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Corbomite on January 25, 2003, 09:11:20 pm
Of course the AI cheats. How could it win otherwise?
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Whiplash on January 26, 2003, 12:06:39 pm
I  have seen the Sovreign Enterprise be impossible to blow up. In one of the Fed missions, I let it get pounded on relentlessly, and it never blew up.

W.
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 26, 2003, 01:24:19 pm
i witnessed it in a Black hole today, Explosion graphic was looping and it nevre blew up
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Aves on January 26, 2003, 02:10:42 pm
The AI Cheats?!?

Well it is as bad at cheating as it is at everything else (except dying)  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: ActiveX on January 26, 2003, 02:28:37 pm
Use 'img' rather than 'image' in the image code...

AI cheats eh? Well it must really suck at it if I can still be totally outclassed and kick its tail...  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Nephlite on January 26, 2003, 02:34:34 pm
Actaully some ships based on missions are flagged undestoryable.  I know there are several instances of this in the single player missions.

Special note about the Enterprise.  Based on special agreements with Paramount, I don't think game companies are allowed to blow it up in any game and be able to progress still.  Even in Bridge Commander I believe it was flagged as unkillable.

Nephlite

   
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: OMF_Michael on January 26, 2003, 06:07:52 pm
Actually the Enterprise E can be destroyed in BC if it rams something...Stylsy posted this on TUN...about the poor Enterprise...it seems it rammed a cardi outpost and went boom  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Kestrel on January 26, 2003, 10:50:07 pm
Apparently this is not a firm rule.  The Enterprise is very kill-able in Klingon Academy in the Academy Final Exam Mission.  I have delighted in destroying the Enterprise over and over again.  The Enterprise is scripted to warp in and around Earth during the Klingon invasion.  If you concentrate all fire on her warp engines, the kill is easy enough.  This may be a technicality.  The Final Exam is actually a simulation programmed by Admiral Chang, so the kill only exists in Chang's private fantasies.
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: Rota on January 26, 2003, 11:07:22 pm
Where did you get 88 AM mines?  
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 27, 2003, 06:19:08 am
change Default Core to read Mines:88:88:88
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: quarterwit on January 27, 2003, 10:13:51 am
"Change Default Core to read Mines:88:88:88?"

Well, that does sounds like evidence of SOMEONE cheating...



   
Title: Re: Evidence of the AI cheating
Post by: MrCue on January 27, 2003, 12:05:36 pm
yes but i only did it to prove a theory, and even with that i am not indestructible. Only when i change the F-ARMOR-1's health to 5000000000 do i even come close. can u imagine trying to kill a saber that awas armed with that?

P.S, if you want Wolf 359 change B-Armor-5 to 10000 and pick a cube as your opponent