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Title: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 04:39:34 pm
I have had to deal with frustration, and many human errors today.
I have repackaged the shiplist again. Please redownload if you have already, prior to the time of this post.

 http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/op_plusrefit_shiplist-20030502.zip

-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on May 02, 2003, 07:12:25 pm
Thank you Firesoul!

KF
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Corbomite on May 02, 2003, 07:14:26 pm
Man FS, you are a machine! lol  
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 07:21:11 pm
Quote:

Man FS, you are a machine! lol    



yeah..
.. and it's ALL YOUR FAULT!!

 
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Tumulorum Fossor on May 02, 2003, 08:21:20 pm
Hail, Firesoul. Hail, Firesoul.

(bowing profusely)

[Repeat]



-TF
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: TarMinyatur on May 02, 2003, 08:27:01 pm
I don't mean to be a pain in your Canadian ass, FireSoul, but did you decide not to adopt SFB's HET breakdown numbers? Taldren gave many non-nimble ships a "+66%" bonus. Only truly nimble vessels get two bonuses on their first and second HETs in a scenario. Perhaps you might consider changing these ships...

Vessels (and variants thereof) affected: HET+2/Nimble entry should be 1
H-HN
H-CU
H-CRU
H-EH
H-CVE
K-E4
K-E6
K-F5
K-F6
L-FF
L-MP
L-DW
R-K4
R-K5
R-SKA
R-WB
R-KFR

Now, these vessels simply have base HET% errrors:

F-FFE and F-FFR should be like all F-FF's ("5", meaning 66% base success)
F-DE and F-DER should be like all F-DD's ("4", meaning 50% base success)

Oh yeah, the Z-NCA has a huge BPV error. Taldren lists it at something crazy like 157, the Z-NCA is really only 135! The R-KDR is also overpriced. It should be 137, not 146! The L-DWLP gets a power pack for free as well. It should come in at around 114 with UIM tax.
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:44:36 pm
That's a bit overwhelming..
.. uhm.. hm.  

.. would you mind emailing me changes like this in the future? This way I can stash all the ideas somewhere I can recall.
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:45:23 pm
PS.
Is it just me, or the H-MNV and H-MNR are priced wrongly?
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:48:25 pm
PPS. Leave my "Canadian Ass" out of it.
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:58:07 pm
I started a  OP+ corrections thread.

-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please. *DELETED*
Post by: TarMinyatur on May 02, 2003, 09:11:38 pm
Post deleted by TarMinyatur
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 09:35:36 pm
It looks like it crashes when the AI enemy is given a ship with more than 12 DC.
crap.

That means OP+ 2.1 and 2.1b are broken. I will have to make a 2.1c, but not tonight.
BE ADVISED!
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Rod O'neal on May 02, 2003, 09:45:38 pm
Quote:

It looks like it crashes when the AI enemy is given a ship with more than 12 DC.
crap.

That means OP+ 2.1 and 2.1b are broken. I will have to make a 2.1c, but not tonight.
BE ADVISED!  



I guess nothing has changed as far as that goes. When I read your previous posts that said that you could go over 12 DC I thought that maybe they had changed that in a patch. Wouldn't it be nice if they just put scout functions in? Or maybe we should just take scouts out? They don't work anyway. Unless you count cannon fodder?  
Title: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 04:39:34 pm
I have had to deal with frustration, and many human errors today.
I have repackaged the shiplist again. Please redownload if you have already, prior to the time of this post.

 http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/op_plusrefit_shiplist-20030502.zip

-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on May 02, 2003, 07:12:25 pm
Thank you Firesoul!

KF
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Corbomite on May 02, 2003, 07:14:26 pm
Man FS, you are a machine! lol  
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 07:21:11 pm
Quote:

Man FS, you are a machine! lol    



yeah..
.. and it's ALL YOUR FAULT!!

 
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Tumulorum Fossor on May 02, 2003, 08:21:20 pm
Hail, Firesoul. Hail, Firesoul.

(bowing profusely)

[Repeat]



-TF
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: TarMinyatur on May 02, 2003, 08:27:01 pm
I don't mean to be a pain in your Canadian ass, FireSoul, but did you decide not to adopt SFB's HET breakdown numbers? Taldren gave many non-nimble ships a "+66%" bonus. Only truly nimble vessels get two bonuses on their first and second HETs in a scenario. Perhaps you might consider changing these ships...

Vessels (and variants thereof) affected: HET+2/Nimble entry should be 1
H-HN
H-CU
H-CRU
H-EH
H-CVE
K-E4
K-E6
K-F5
K-F6
L-FF
L-MP
L-DW
R-K4
R-K5
R-SKA
R-WB
R-KFR

Now, these vessels simply have base HET% errrors:

F-FFE and F-FFR should be like all F-FF's ("5", meaning 66% base success)
F-DE and F-DER should be like all F-DD's ("4", meaning 50% base success)

Oh yeah, the Z-NCA has a huge BPV error. Taldren lists it at something crazy like 157, the Z-NCA is really only 135! The R-KDR is also overpriced. It should be 137, not 146! The L-DWLP gets a power pack for free as well. It should come in at around 114 with UIM tax.
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:44:36 pm
That's a bit overwhelming..
.. uhm.. hm.  

.. would you mind emailing me changes like this in the future? This way I can stash all the ideas somewhere I can recall.
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:45:23 pm
PS.
Is it just me, or the H-MNV and H-MNR are priced wrongly?
-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:48:25 pm
PPS. Leave my "Canadian Ass" out of it.
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 08:58:07 pm
I started a  OP+ corrections thread.

-- Luc
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please. *DELETED*
Post by: TarMinyatur on May 02, 2003, 09:11:38 pm
Post deleted by TarMinyatur
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: FireSoul on May 02, 2003, 09:35:36 pm
It looks like it crashes when the AI enemy is given a ship with more than 12 DC.
crap.

That means OP+ 2.1 and 2.1b are broken. I will have to make a 2.1c, but not tonight.
BE ADVISED!
Title: Re: Downloaded OP+ 2.1b already? RE-download please.
Post by: Rod O'neal on May 02, 2003, 09:45:38 pm
Quote:

It looks like it crashes when the AI enemy is given a ship with more than 12 DC.
crap.

That means OP+ 2.1 and 2.1b are broken. I will have to make a 2.1c, but not tonight.
BE ADVISED!  



I guess nothing has changed as far as that goes. When I read your previous posts that said that you could go over 12 DC I thought that maybe they had changed that in a patch. Wouldn't it be nice if they just put scout functions in? Or maybe we should just take scouts out? They don't work anyway. Unless you count cannon fodder?