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Title: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Scipio_66 on May 09, 2003, 09:27:57 am
Time was growing short, so I wasn't able to keep this index completely updated as last-minute changes came in.  However, this should still give you a good idea of the sorts of individual models you will be able to use (if you wish) for your various ships in SG3.

I, for one, will take great pleasure in finally having a BCH that doesn't look like a BC, and carriers/pftenders that don't look like the cruisers they were built upon.

Very few of these new models are downloads, though Dizzy does have a few creations he wanted to share with everyone.  Most of these are created by making new folders on your hard-drive and copying over the stock models into them.  If you are happy with your game as is, no worries.  But if you want to be able to visually distinguish all the different hull configurations with unique models, now is the time to start looking for your favorite mod files to use.

Happy warmongering!

-S'Cipio




 
 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 09:31:33 am
Quote:


G-BF gca/gca.mod => gbf/gbf.mod (remove R restriction)




XOXOXOXOXO

Quote:


G-BFP gca/gca.mod => gbfp/gbfp.mod (remove R restriction)




Someone is going to get lucky tonight.  

Love,
Kroma
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Jim on May 09, 2003, 09:35:42 am
Hey... you should use some of the original Gorn models for SFB (completely different from the SFC gorn models).  I know there are plenty of them out there...

Just a suggestion...

Jim
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 09:40:08 am
Quote:

Hey... you should use some of the original Gorn models for SFB (completely different from the SFC gorn models).  I know there are plenty of them out there...

Just a suggestion...

Jim  



Oh yeah baby, I think pretty much every full time Gorn has replaced the Taldren swingline stablers with one SFB mod or another.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: NuclearWessels on May 09, 2003, 09:45:13 am
OK, could someone pretend I'm J'inn for a moment and explain in painful detail just how I go about doing this?

thanks!
dave
 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Capt Jeff on May 09, 2003, 09:53:16 am
Dave,

The nice thing about this, is if you don't have, or want any custom models for these ships, you have to do absolutely nothing.   The customizer will put the stock models in those extra slots and all will appear as they normally would to you.

If you are a model enthusiast though, you will be able to slip models in here and there to give the game that extra touch.  A C7 can look different then a D7, and that would look different then a D6 and so on.  A dream come true for model lovers, and at the same time, requires nothing else if you are so inclined.  

 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Capt Jeff on May 09, 2003, 09:58:51 am
PS.

my favorite Gorn, Hydran, and Lyran ships come from here....check it out !!

http://www.feralyards.co.uk/


 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on May 09, 2003, 10:06:03 am
Quote:

Quote:

Hey... you should use some of the original Gorn models for SFB (completely different from the SFC gorn models).  I know there are plenty of them out there...

Just a suggestion...

Jim  



Oh yeah baby, I think pretty much every full time Gorn has replaced the Taldren swingline stablers with one SFB mod or another.  




I know I replaced those ugly POS models with the SFB-style models as soon as they became available....almost as fast as I got rid of Taldren's stock KCL.  
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 10:12:56 am
My favorite Gorn models are here:

http://members.fortunecity.com/sfcspacedock/index.htm

They also have SFB Hydrans, ISC, etc.

Another good site is Fleetdock13. They have some gorn PF tender models with PF's attached to the mechlinks.

http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/omega/fleetdock13/

Kroma

 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 09, 2003, 10:15:33 am
ACK!!! This is just white letters on a black background!!! I don't know anything about these ships!!

But what is important is....

Are there any that have hulls painted plum crazy purple???!!!

Is there wall to wall carpet??

What does my office look like??

Does the captain's chair look down on the rest of the crew??

Will I be able to carry a full compliment of Rolling Pin???

Will I be able to beat someone, ANYONE???

Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??

Can I fly a ship that looks like a rock??

Will I have a sushi chef on board??

Will I have Special Pens all the colors of the rainbow???

If I can't beat anyone, will I look good running away???

<sigh>

 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 10:18:36 am
Quote:

ACK!!! This is just white letters on a black background!!! I don't know anything about these ships!!

But what is important is....

Are there any that have hulls painted plum crazy purple???!!!

Is there wall to wall carpet??

What does my office look like??

Does the captain's chair look down on the rest of the crew??

Will I be able to carry a full compliment of Rolling Pin???

Will I be able to beat someone, ANYONE???

Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??

Can I fly a ship that looks like a rock??

Will I have a sushi chef on board??

Will I have Special Pens all the colors of the rainbow???

If I can't beat anyone, will I look good running away???

<sigh>

 



Remember "It is better to look good, than to fly good".
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 09, 2003, 10:21:39 am
Quote:

Quote:

ACK!!! This is just white letters on a black background!!! I don't know anything about these ships!!

But what is important is....

Are there any that have hulls painted plum crazy purple???!!!

Is there wall to wall carpet??

What does my office look like??

Does the captain's chair look down on the rest of the crew??

Will I be able to carry a full compliment of Rolling Pin???

Will I be able to beat someone, ANYONE???

Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??

Can I fly a ship that looks like a rock??

Will I have a sushi chef on board??

Will I have Special Pens all the colors of the rainbow???

If I can't beat anyone, will I look good running away???

<sigh>

 



Remember "It is better to look good, than to fly good".  




My thoughts exactly, Kroma dear!!
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Dizzy on May 09, 2003, 10:29:17 am
Jeff is exactly right. You wont need to do anything other than D/L the installer and run it. It will set you up with duplicate folders and you wont notice a difference. However, like Scipio said, the goal is to split up the folders for different models so you can substitute them for custom ones. It is very nearly possible now that you may be able to recognize a ship type just by its model...

Scipio is gone for the weekend, and I will be handling all the questions for the installer.

And now if you will excuse me... there is a very dark forest I wish to now run into and hide....

::runs::
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 09, 2003, 10:31:46 am
Oh, I guess I need to go somewhere and start installing something.

<looks around>

Hey, Dizzy!!! Come back here!!!
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Dizzy on May 09, 2003, 10:41:54 am
By the time anyone could react to Dizzy's last comments... he had already gone to full speed dashing thru the snow toward the far off evergreen dark forest. In an almost inaudible voice, Dizzy could be heard yelling in a laughing crazed like state that there were no D/L's yet availabe. Just before he disappeared into the thick grove of trees, he spun round and declared to all, "EVERYONE HERE IS MY BITCH!" and then turned, frothing at the mouth and stumbled deep into the forest.

The stunned crowd stood on in disbelief at what they had seen and heard but then wry grins washed away the dumbfounded look on their faces and one bitch yelled, "Off with his head!"...

The hunt had begun...
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: NuclearWessels on May 09, 2003, 10:44:48 am
Quote:

Dave,

The nice thing about this, is if you don't have, or want any custom models for these ships, you have to do absolutely nothing.   The customizer will put the stock models in those extra slots and all will appear as they normally would to you.

If you are a model enthusiast though, you will be able to slip models in here and there to give the game that extra touch.  A C7 can look different then a D7, and that would look different then a D6 and so on.  A dream come true for model lovers, and at the same time, requires nothing else if you are so inclined.  

 



Let me rephrase:

as someone who has never used anything but the stock models, and has no clue what they're doing, but wants to try out custom models .... whadda I do?  Again, in J'innese please and thank you

thanks!
dave
 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 09, 2003, 10:46:41 am
OK!!! NOW I'm SCARED!!!!
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 11:12:37 am
Quote:

Quote:

Dave,

The nice thing about this, is if you don't have, or want any custom models for these ships, you have to do absolutely nothing.   The customizer will put the stock models in those extra slots and all will appear as they normally would to you.

If you are a model enthusiast though, you will be able to slip models in here and there to give the game that extra touch.  A C7 can look different then a D7, and that would look different then a D6 and so on.  A dream come true for model lovers, and at the same time, requires nothing else if you are so inclined.  

 



Let me rephrase:

as someone who has never used anything but the stock models, and has no clue what they're doing, but wants to try out custom models .... whadda I do?  Again, in J'innese please and thank you

thanks!
dave
   



Not much more than copy the model files into the appropriate directory and rename the .mod and .brk (?) files to the ones that were already there. If you grab a couple of the downloads from the sites I listed above just look for one with a readme in the zip. It will tell you exactly what to do.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: NuclearWessels on May 09, 2003, 11:18:31 am
OK, most of the FAQs and READMEs seem to assume you already know what you're doing, but this is the impression I'm getting, someone please tell me if I'm way off (and thanks!)

The shiplist from the installer will direct the game to the folders Scippy mentions above, which it will also create.  Basically now not as many ships all point to the same folder/model.  The installer will still copy the existing model files from the stock models into the newly created folders, so things actually look the same unless you make the effort to customize them.

If you do want to customize the models for a particular ship, you find the model you like after much browsing and kicking-of-tires, and copy the .mod and .bmp files to the folder appropriate for that ship.

My big question is (assuming I'm on the right track above) when I copy the model files I want into the appropriate folder, do I just whack them in there, or do I rename them (or some of them????) to match whatever the installer puts in there by default.

Is this even vaguely right?

many thanks!
dave the model newbie

EDIT: Thanks Kroma - cross posted, and I was even on the right track
EDIT EDIT: hmmm ... not sure I wanna be known as a cross-poster with the bearer-of-the-tutu
   
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 11:26:39 am
Dave, that is correct. There are only two files that actually need to get renamed to what was originally there. The .mod's. So for instance the Gorn CA folder has a gca.mod and a gca_brk.mod. Once you copy all the .mods and .bmps into the gca directory just rename the two .mod files that came with the new model to gca.mod and gca_brk.mod, thus replacing the originals. You do not need to rename the .bmp files, nor do you need to delete the old .bmps. Also if the new model named it's .bmps the same as the original .bmps then make sure that you overwrite them when unzipping. I believe that the shiplist points to the .mods and the .mods point to the .bmps.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: NuclearWessels on May 09, 2003, 11:30:22 am
Cool - thanks!

I'm taking a sickie today <coughs in case boss reads the forums>, so might have to spend it experimenting

dave
 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Maxillius on May 09, 2003, 11:53:58 am
So, if I were so inclined to replace the F-CAD series, NCD, and CLD with the Fed Abbe-class model, would I need to change the pointer in the shiplist, and how would I do that, since I tried that once and killed the game.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 09, 2003, 11:58:02 am
Quote:

So, if I were so inclined to replace the F-CAD series, NCD, and CLD with the Fed Abbe-class model, would I need to change the pointer in the shiplist, and how would I do that, since I tried that once and killed the game.  



Do not change anything in the shiplist file. Otherwise you won't be able to play on the D2. This is why Scipio's script creates the new directories and shiplist pointers, so that you have the options for more choice in models without having to touch the shiplist, since each players shiplist needs to be the same as the servers. Instead just copy the models you want into the appropriate model directory and rename the .mod files to the ones the shiplist is already pointing too.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Capt Jeff on May 09, 2003, 01:36:51 pm
yep,

pretty much all you do is find a ship modle you'd like to download and do it.  Then extract the zip file to your desktop with the correct model name (ie  FCA).   Open that folder and make sure the .mod and BRK.mod files  have the right name in front of them (ie FCA.MOD   FCA_BRK.MOD).   Then go into your models folder and rename the original folder, and drag the new one in....simple as that !!
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: wanderer on May 09, 2003, 03:13:09 pm
<wanderer looks over the list, looks over his collection of models..."Oh, yeah...">

Been waitn' for this one.  
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Dizzy on May 10, 2003, 01:39:02 am
I changed the T-DN's to the t4 hull. Although not canon, I wanted them to be distinguisable from the freighters which use the t3 hull...
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix on May 10, 2003, 01:41:31 am
NOT CANON!!!!???


OH NOES!!!!11!!  


not canon = teh wrong!!!11!!!!1!!  
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Sfaret on May 10, 2003, 03:38:26 am
Quote:


Are there any that have hulls painted plum crazy purple???!!!


I am sure you could find some if you look.

Quote:

Is there wall to wall carpet??


Even carpetting ON the walls if you like. Lyrans like this makes the whole ship a scratching post.

Quote:

Does the captain's chair look down on the rest of the crew??


Would it be a cpatins chiar if it didn't?

Quote:

Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??


Since J'inn has none he must worry about some one elses.

Quote:

If I can't beat anyone, will I look good running away???


That depends on how tight the jeans are and how good the butt filling them is :-)

S'faret
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: J'inn on May 10, 2003, 09:03:02 am
Quote:


Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??



 



<gasp>

Kim!!

Ixnay onay ivatepray essagesmay

 
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 10, 2003, 09:08:28 am
Quote:

Quote:


Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??



 



<gasp>

Kim!!

Ixnay onay ivatepray essagesmay

 



atwhay reaay ouyay ayingsay boutaay onay ivatepray essagesmay?
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: mbday on May 10, 2003, 09:11:33 am
Kim back to the Fleet forums you can post there till 12:30 CST today. Please leave these poor guys along.  
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: KRolling on May 10, 2003, 09:13:49 am
Hey, Mike!!! I got this great coloring book!!!
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 10, 2003, 10:44:01 am
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


Will J'inn continue to worry about my sex life??



 



<gasp>

Kim!!

Ixnay onay ivatepray essagesmay

 



atwhay reaay ouyay ayingsay boutaay onay ivatepray essagesmay?  



You folks must be looking for Tellurite models.
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Korgal on May 11, 2003, 02:29:19 am
Quote:

NOT CANON!!!!???


OH NOES!!!!11!!  


not canon = teh wrong!!!11!!!!1!!    



Dogmatix, you are frighteningly fluent in l33t...

-korgal out-
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Kroma_BaSyl on May 20, 2003, 03:14:51 pm
bump
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Scipio_66 on May 20, 2003, 09:26:08 pm
Hi, all:

My installer on SG3 will finally let people play with lot of different models.  No longer must we fly with a BCH that looks exactly like our CL!  Pleae forfive the blue background, but I took these shots in the modelviewer instead of in the game.

These are some models I've tweaked into existence for my own use.  Mostly I used Fleetcock13 model files with War Refit textures.  Then I used photoshop to add the GDA logo.  I like the War Refit textures, but Fleetdock gave me more options on the number of plasma mounts.  I wanted to get the number of plasma mounts correct on as many ships as I could.  My objective was to get as close to SFB as possible.  Now my ships in the game will look just like my miniature colleciton.  


Here is the Gorn PFT.  Not only does it strike fear into the hearts of our enemies with its massive cheese, but it also lets me fly with a lot of GDA logos!



SG3 will let us fly with tugs.  They are ugly, but deadly.



Here is the big gun of the Gorn fleet, the DNH.  I was quite happy that fleetdock 13 was able to get me a model with five plasma mounts.  I applied the War Refit textures and added my own GDA logo.




Here is the ship I spend most of my time in during a campaign, the G-BCH.  Again 5 torps, though this time three are supposed to be S-torps.  I'm waiting for my registration code for Milkshape, and when it arrives I may stretch the rear bubble of this one.  Then my ship will look just like Kroma's sig.  




You know it, you love it, the Gorn Fast Battlecruiser.  It only has two torps, but it is wicked fast.  This was the best cruiser model I could find with only two torp mounts.  When I get Milkshape, I may actuall *shorten* the front bubble on this one.


The Medium cruiser is another ship I spend a great deal of time in.  Here is the model I'll be using, which is actually the Strike Cruiser.  I may try to add a second ceter-torp.



The War cruiser is the true workhorse of every fleet.  Our HDD may have a small name to get it past a budget-concious senate, but it is a full war cruser in every respect.



The Gorn BDP.  I didn't find any thing with PF's on the hull for this one, but I did find a war destroyer scout which has the sensor mounts for a PF tender.


See you out there!


-S'Cipio  
Title: Re: New Models possible in SG3 (start finding your favorites now!)
Post by: Dizzy on June 25, 2004, 04:18:50 am
evil bump!