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Topic: Taldren Please help a fellow customer out!!!! *DELETED* *DELETED*  (Read 10335 times)

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nx_adam_1701

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Corbomite

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2003, 12:46:49 pm »
What game?
 

Captain KoraH

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2003, 02:29:45 pm »
First, are you talking about a single player campaign or a online D3 server? If it's single player, the tensions matrix is in the MetaAssets folders. If it's a D3 server then the answer may be that you cannot change the tensions once the campaign has started. You would have to either edit the database with a hex editor, or start the campaign over again. Another way around this is to use SQL, but I do not suggest it, as SQL based D3 servers tend to crash rather quickly.  

Towelie

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2003, 10:17:54 pm »
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Why is it that when I change the PoliticalTension/StartingTensions, in the metamap.gf file, nothing happens in the game, nothing I have tested it almost like 10 times, im  exhausted, anyone got any ideas as to why its not working, I started iwth a small test, changing the federation and romulan tension to make them allies, by putting 0 = zero, but nothing happen, i did it to both, its wierd, it remains the same???????????


adam out  




  Need more details. I've modified these setting before and after a campaign and they worked perfectly. Put two races two war and make them allies the next. No problem.

  I take it that you changed the settings AFTER starting the campaign. After you start the campiagn, the ONLY WAY to change the political settings is to alter them in the saved game AKA DB file. The latter requires a hex editor and a fairly decent understanding of hex and DB structure (which I just happen to have).

   The settings you see in text form are only used when creating a new campaign
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nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2003, 11:26:14 pm »
SFC OP, and its for a single play campaign, and yes I do it, before starting a campaign not after, and still nothing

adam out

Any ideas???????????

Towelie

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2003, 11:32:32 pm »

  Okay, which file where you changing? List the path please because this is starting to make me curious.  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2003, 12:22:16 am »
I identified the file in the begining as Metamap.gf, in the metaassets/ServerProfiles/SinglePlayer/MetaMap.gf

adam out

ps thanks

Towelie

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2003, 12:45:50 am »
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I identified the file in the begining as Metamap.gf, in the metaassets/ServerProfiles/SinglePlayer/MetaMap.gf

adam out

ps thanks  



 
  Sorry, just wanted to confirm the location of the file to make sure it was correct. I am tired, been long day so not too effective right now.

   Okay, so you did alter the tensions and set the tensions to 1000 for the races you wanted to kill each other. But when you started a new fresh campaign it ignored them?

   This makes no sense. What did you use to edit the files? The game uses those settings for the campain and is getting the parameters from somewhere. I remember doing this a long time ago and had no trouble with it. I am overlooking something.
 
  Okay, bed time for me, cannot stay awake any longer or else I will drool on my keyboard. Hopefully somebody else more awake than me or smoking crack might be able to help. But if not, I will do it.  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2003, 01:07:46 am »
Yes i did it correct, for instance Romulan and fed, both 900 default, meaning war, i tested it by changing that to 0, for best of friends sort of speak, but once i start a new camp, nothing still war with each other, i even reinstalled the game, repatched, nothing same problem, I know its a prob... because about a year ago i did the same thing to test it out and it worked, but the past week no luck

adam out

Please help someone

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2003, 01:33:33 am »
Ok people who were interested in the crazy wierd problem, Ok rememer I said i delete the entire game, reinstalled, repatched, and nothing, same problem occured, then I decided what the hell, let me give it a try, so I installed the 25412 patch, i did the same thing I was doing I pooof it worked, i got all the results I wanted, now the problem is would it work with the 2550 patch which I had previously installed, im afraid that if I do repatch there will be a problem, so now im confused, stay with the buggy 25412, or go with the almost bugless 2550, but not have the ability to alter the tension levels, what do you think, i for my sake can someone point out the bugs that were in the 25412 patch, so I know if its worth it, thanks guys

adam out

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2003, 02:43:29 am »
Adam, check and make sure the changes you are doing are saving.  Whenever you do a patch, alot of these gf files are replaced with new ones and they are "Read Only" files.  Make sure you right click on them and uncheck the read only property.  Then make the changes and save the file.  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2003, 03:22:21 am »
i know it sounds wierd but at first I was doing all that, I made sure of it, but i guess ill stay with the second to last patch, i need these tension setting for the mod, thanks for the advice though

adam out

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2003, 03:33:53 am »
Ok disregard wat i mentioned earlier, it happened again, it worked for a sec, and now everything is back to the default, I have no idea what the hell is going on, but I cant seem to get the tension settings the way they should be, I put everything correct, who ever wants to take a look at the metamap file i altered, gimme you email please, help me out

adam out

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2003, 08:27:24 am »
I have my game modded so everyone hates me but the Hydrans and I am running 2.5.5.0. Let me ask you this, when you change them and it starts to not work are the settings you altered put back to the original numbers or are they still set to what you put them at?

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2003, 11:27:05 am »
That is exactly it, the setting is defaulted back tot he orignal settings, nothing changes, but yet, there are circumstances that I start a campaign and the setting are all screwed up meaning that there not ALL defaulted but some have changed, not what I wanted but all screwed up, like the gorn is the borg, or 1,000 for every races but in the campaign reads them as freindly, when I put 1,000 for every body against the borg and the borg against everybody,

adam out

Towelie

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2003, 04:11:04 pm »

  Send me a copy of the metamap.gf file just for kicks. I am going to re-install my copy of OP (as soon as I find the CD) and patch it and see what I get.

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2003, 07:14:20 pm »
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nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2003, 10:47:25 pm »
Towlie, I sent you screenshots of the problem take a look, and then your understand better

adam out

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2003, 12:20:31 am »
Ok heres an update, before this crapola started happening I used to be able to change my starting prestige now I cant, TALDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
What the hell is going on, it has to be this freakin patch man, now this is getting me pissed it use to work fine, All I use to do is change the properties of the character file from read-only to normal and then change the 50 to 250, I just tried it, and when I started the campaign nothing changed it remained 50, I use to do this all the time, now I cant, and no one can explain it, im bugging out, taldren please help


adam out  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone!!
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2003, 12:37:22 am »
Taldren could it be the latest patch 2550, messing all this up for me

adam out

 

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